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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Why anyone ever puts faith in Trump is beyond my ability to comprehend.

For Manafort it's pretty simple. Dummy down & pray for a pardon or go to the joint as the guy who ratted out Trump. I'm the same age as Manafort & I'd rather die inside of natural causes somewhere down the road than than try to survive for years wearing that rat jacket.

He'd rather have the Aryan Brotherhood as friends & benefactors than as enemies.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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errr...wut

George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign adviser who pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents about his interactions with a Russia-linked professor in 2016, went to jail on Monday after fighting, and failing, to delay the start of his two-week prison sentence. But a letter now being investigated by the House Intelligence Committee and the FBI indicates that Papadopoulos is still in the crosshairs of investigators probing a potential conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The letter, obtained last week by The Atlantic, was sent to Democratic Representative Adam Schiff’s office on November 19 by an individual who claims to have been close to Papadopoulos in late 2016 and early 2017. The letter was brought to the attention of Schiff and House Intelligence Committee staff, according to an aide who requested anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. The letter was also obtained by federal authorities, who are taking its claims “very seriously,” said two U.S. officials who also requested anonymity due to the sensitivities of the probe.

The statement makes a series of explosive but uncorroborated claims about Papadopoulos’s alleged coordination with Russians in the weeks following Trump’s election in November 2016, including that Papadopoulos said he was “doing a business deal with Russians which would result in large financial gains for himself and Mr. Trump.” The confidant said they were willing to take a polygraph test “to prove that I am being truthful” and had come forward now after seeing Papadopoulos “become increasingly hostile towards those who are investigating him and his associates.” A lawyer for Papadopoulos declined to comment.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...russia-ties-still-interest-fbi-schiff/576895/
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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He also threatened to declassify things that he felt would be damaging to democrats if they dare to investigate him.
Yea, I saw that and IMO it's a hollow threat. What I find shocking is Rudy actually admitting then taking information from Manafort's lawyer's, huh?, once you agree to "flip" and cooperate with the Prosecution there is no "joint defense" anymore. Jesus these house GOP folks are just sad, they have written their place in history as the most pathetic, weak, amoral D-bags to ever have held office.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I posted this in the wrong thread... Posting here where it might belong. No idea if this has any relation to Trump-Russia but worth keeping an eye on it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/business/deutsche-bank-money-laundering-raid.html

One hundred seventy officers searched the headquarters of Deutsche Bank in Frankfurt and five other sites in the area early Thursday as part of a money-laundering investigation involving hundreds of millions of euros, prosecutors in Frankfurt said.

Two employees, who were not publicly identified but whose ages were given as 50 and 46, and other “unidentified people in positions of authority” are suspected of failing to report possible money laundering for transactions worth 311 million euros, or more than $350 million.

The money flowed to organizations in the British Virgin Islands before spring 2016, prosecutors said in an emailed statement.

The German bank confirmed in a statement that the police were investigating several of its offices in Germany and said the investigation related to the Panama Papers, a trove of files that put a spotlight on global money laundering. “We are cooperating fully with the authorities,” Deutsche said in the statement.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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ABC News says Michael Cohen has entered a plea deal with Mueller. Will plead guilty to lying to congress.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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ABC News says Michael Cohen has entered a plea deal with Mueller. Will plead guilty to lying to congress.

Specifically related to Russian real estate deals/Trump Tower Moscow. Hmm...net seems to be closing in...
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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It's beginning to look a lot like Trump has already perjured himself...with WRITTEN statements that took months to prepare???? Is that like...a whole other level of stupid? Or does Trump [and his lawyers] believe he won't have to face any consequences because...what?

I'm very curious as to what Trump's endgame scenario is looking like right now.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Reportedly he will continue to cooperate with the special council's office.

I'd expect indictments of others to follow soonish.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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He also threatened to declassify things that he felt would be damaging to democrats if they dare to investigate him.

"Oh Lordy, I HOPE there's information to be declassified!"

Trump is a rather comprehensive example of the effects of arrested development at the age of 12.

Trumpists are all just co-dependents.
 
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"Oh Lordy, I HOPE there's information to be declassified!"

Trump is a rather comprehensive example of the effects of arrested development at the age of 12.

Trumpists are all just co-dependents.

Agreed.

Trump reminds me of Parents that make idle threats to misbehaving kids like:

If you don’t stop that I’m going to send you to the moon!

Or

If you don’t do this I’m going to leave you in the woods

Doesn’t take a genius to figure out these threats will never be carried out
 

Stokely

Golden Member
Jun 5, 2017
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It's beginning to look a lot like Trump has already perjured himself...with WRITTEN statements that took months to prepare???? Is that like...a whole other level of stupid? Or does Trump [and his lawyers] believe he won't have to face any consequences because...what?

I'm very curious as to what Trump's endgame scenario is looking like right now.

As others have posited, it's very possible that Trump was confident in the info because it was coming from Manafort. And it's also possible that Mueller knew Manafort was feeding lies to both him and Trump the whole time; if so, then Mueller has Trump lying. The timing supports this. Who knows yet if this is what happened...

If I had to guess, which is all any of us can do, Trump's end game has begun. He's been hammering the "Mueller forced these people to lie/Democrats are behind this coup/the investigation is criminal" from the start, and his base will support all of that. In other words, it no longer matters to them what Mueller says, since Mueller is the bad guy. And if the base doesn't care, I can't imagine the Senate will either (since the GOP Senate is largely elected by the same base).

IF Mueller starts dropping bombs on Trump and/or his family, I wouldn't expect him to go Nixon and meekly resign. I think he'll attempt to start locking people up (note the fucking President tweeted a meme pic with the current deputy AG behind bars, WTF....) and calling on the public (who he thinks loves him, and of course many do) to action to defend him. And/or, he starts a war in a frantic wag-the-dog exercise in distraction. I'm really getting nervous to what he might do frankly.
 
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VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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Here are the Micheal Cohen plea documents...

https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-documents-mueller-probe

That's a pretty specific bunch of information there, that is. And Cohen pleading guilty means he's saying ; that's all true. I'm sure Mueller would not accept a plea for any charge he could not prove. My guess is that he has supporting evidence (remember all those Cohen tape recordings?) that will support all statements made in the plea.

Mueller uses his indictments/informations/court filings to speak to the public. People who are waiting for a "report" should just continue to read those. It's all there. Oh, and... this does score another one for Christopher Steele. (Page 32 of Dossier.)

And... Deutsche Bank raided this morning in money laundering case. Trump's favorite bank...Hmmm!

 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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IF Mueller starts dropping bombs on Trump and/or his family, I wouldn't expect him to go Nixon and meekly resign. I think he'll attempt to start locking people up (note the fucking President tweeted a meme pic with the current deputy AG behind bars, WTF....) and calling on the public (who he thinks loves him, and of course many do) to action to defend him. And/or, he starts a war in a frantic wag-the-dog exercise in distraction. I'm really getting nervous to what he might do frankly.

Yeah, Trump doesn't seem to take losing lightly. My biggest fear is that he'd rather see the country burn in civil unrest vs. be shamed into leaving quietly. He has no love for country, only himself.
 
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snoopy7548

Diamond Member
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Trump committed perjury and Cohen is rolling over on him. We're in the final stages now. I can't wait for January 3rd.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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29,553
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It's beginning to look a lot like Trump has already perjured himself...with WRITTEN statements that took months to prepare???? Is that like...a whole other level of stupid? Or does Trump [and his lawyers] believe he won't have to face any consequences because...what?

I'm very curious as to what Trump's endgame scenario is looking like right now.

I hate to claim to guess something that has probably already happened, but I'm thinking the next claim from Rudy (is he still alive?) will be: "It isn't perjury if you don't know what the truth is!"
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I hate to claim to guess something that has probably already happened, but I'm thinking the next claim from Rudy (is he still alive?) will be: "It isn't perjury if you don't know what the truth is!"
If that empty shell of a man has any brains left, he should start running far, far away from any person or thing named "Trump".
 

VRAMdemon

Diamond Member
Aug 16, 2012
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For those of us who have not committed the Steele Dossier to memory:

That Cohen played a "key role" in the Trump–Russia relationship[3] by maintaining a "covert relationship with Russia",[109][110][111] arranging cover-ups and "deniable cash payments",[60][35] and that his role had grown after Manafort had left the campaign.[112][108] (Dossier, pp. 18, 30, 32, 34–35)

That "COHEN now was heavily engaged in a cover up and damage limitation operation in the attempt to prevent the full details of TRUMP's relationship with Russia being exposed."[108][101] (Dossier, p. 32

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier
 
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