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Commodus

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2004
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So, Flynn is refusing senate subpoena and taking the 5th.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...40ffced2ddb_story.html?utm_term=.101dd12752b5

Only guilty people take the 5th.

You have to like Trump's own words coming back to haunt him, as they so often do.

Thankfully, they likely don't need Flynn to self-incriminate to get a conviction. My question: can they offer him a lighter sentence in return for cooperation? He had offered to testify in return for immunity, but that was likely because he was expecting to say nothing of merit (that Trump wanted him to get immunity was a sign it was a bad idea). He may sing a different tune if he knows it's the difference between eventual release and dying in prison.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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I'm curious, what is Louise Mensch's track record with events that have transpired in the last few weeks? Has she been spot on with everything relative to WH handling of Comey's firing, the appointment of Mueller, and news related to the Flynn case? It seems to me, at least, that everything she's reported on the blog to date has been somewhat pointed in the right direction, but full of erroneous facts and debunked claims, as well as a complete lack of understanding of the process. Its almost as if their sources tell them something, and they spin it to fit their own narrative, but demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of what the source was actually speaking about.

Going forward, I wouldn't trust anything she says until the MSM can confirm it.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/16/fake-news-sites-reports-facts-louise-mensch
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

I view it kind of like raw intel. Leading in the right direction, the actual events will fall somewhere in the probability cone around that track. The overall theme is tracking. Details are off. Some people are trying to pick her apart based on semantics/poor word choices or her general lack of knowledge in some specific areas. They can't see the forest for the trees. She does seem to have some decent sources though.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I'm curious, what is Louise Mensch's track record with events that have transpired in the last few weeks? Has she been spot on with everything relative to WH handling of Comey's firing, the appointment of Mueller, and news related to the Flynn case? It seems to me, at least, that everything she's reported on the blog to date has been somewhat pointed in the right direction, but full of erroneous facts and debunked claims, as well as a complete lack of understanding of the process. Its almost as if their sources tell them something, and they spin it to fit their own narrative, but demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of what the source was actually speaking about.

Going forward, I wouldn't trust anything she says until the MSM can confirm it.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/16/fake-news-sites-reports-facts-louise-mensch
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

I agree on this, she seems to be generally right in the whole 'things are getting worse for Trump' direction but she consistently gets crucial details totally wrong. She's not quite infowars level as what she's saying seems to be at least somewhat grounded in reality but she's in no way a reliable source.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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lol, so it took exactly 4 months for a senior member of the administration to plead the 5th in regards to a massive corruption investigation.

I'm sure glad we didn't elect 'crooked Hillary'.

Tried to warn 'em, didn't we? It's like they're hypnotized, that sloganeering rules their minds.
 
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werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
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Can you tell us, specifically, what major stories about the Trump administration are 'lunacy'?

Considering the performance of the administration so far and the number of self-inflicted wounds they have caused 75% anti-Trump reporting seems a bit biased in Trump's favor, wouldn't you say?
Perhaps instead you can tell me specifically what Trump-bashing stories are NOT lunacy based on "anonymous sources". We've got Flynn resigning because he told a verifiable lie to Pence and then a great mass of white noise masquerading as news.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Perhaps instead you can tell me specifically what Trump-bashing stories are NOT lunacy based on "anonymous sources". We've got Flynn resigning because he told a verifiable lie to Pence and then a great mass of white noise masquerading as news.

Well, there's the story about firing Comey & the story about Sessions lying on official documents & before Congress. There's the story about massive cuts to all kinds of govt programs that actually benefit the people so that the investor class can benefit from tax cuts they obviously don't need.

There's more, but you're just here to minimize the problems, obviously. Nothing to see here. Move along.
 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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Perhaps instead you can tell me specifically what Trump-bashing stories are NOT lunacy based on "anonymous sources". We've got Flynn resigning because he told a verifiable lie to Pence and then a great mass of white noise masquerading as news.

Errr... you are aware most of those claims from the anonymous sources you hate so much were later verified... right? Flynn lying, Trump sharing classified info with the Russians (at this point the WH only denies that Israel was mentioned, which wasn't even part of what Trump was accused of), and Comey's memos, just to name a few.

The leaks have been more truthful than anything that's come out of Trump's or Spicey's mouth.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Errr... you are aware most of those claims from the anonymous sources you hate so much were later verified... right? Flynn lying, Trump sharing classified info with the Russians (at this point the WH only denies that Israel was mentioned, which wasn't even part of what Trump was accused of), and Comey's memos, just to name a few.

The leaks have been more truthful than anything that's come out of Trump's or Spicey's mouth.

And many more, including all those reports which came out the same day that Comey was fired, stating that WH sources told them Trump had really fired Comey over the investigation, which Trump then confirmed first to the Russians, then in a TV interview. The fact that Flynn asked for immunity was first reported from anonymous sources, then confirmed when they published the letter from his lawyer.

If one was really determined to sift through every anonymously sourced news report over the past 4 months, I bet there are no fewer than 20 examples of such stories being confirmed.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Perhaps instead you can tell me specifically what Trump-bashing stories are NOT lunacy based on "anonymous sources". We've got Flynn resigning because he told a verifiable lie to Pence and then a great mass of white noise masquerading as news.

I asked a simple question, can you answer it?
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Well, there's the story about firing Comey & the story about Sessions lying on official documents & before Congress. There's the story about massive cuts to all kinds of govt programs that actually benefit the people so that the investor class can benefit from tax cuts they obviously don't need.

There's more, but you're just here to minimize the problems, obviously. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Sessions recused himself and then went on to recommend that Trump should fire Comey...the list never ends
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Having a hard time trusting anything on that blog. I do find it amusing that conservatives think we're loony because evidently a few of us take her seriously. She was, after all, the point source for Trump's tweets about Obama wiretapping his phones in Trump tower. That's right, it was originally an article she wrote for Heat Street, which got picked up by Breitbart and Mark Levin, and then by Trump. If conservatives think she's loony they should tell that to Trump.
 
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alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Having a hard time trusting anything on that blog. I do find it amusing that conservatives think we're loony because evidently a few of us take her seriously. She was, after all, the point source for Trump's tweets about Obama wiretapping his phones in Trump tower. That's right, it was originally an article she wrote for Heat Street, which got picked up by Breitbart and Mark Levin, and then by Trump. If conservatives think she's loony they should tell that to Trump.

has the Russian bank server in a Trump building been debunked? it was in the Steele dossier as well.

the problem was that Trump misrepresented what she had stated.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Damn.. crossing fingers here.
And taking another mental note that this is not out of WikiLeaks.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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Again, more news that apparently confirms info from the Steele Dossier. I think all that's left is the pee tape.
 
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