Indictments coming...

[ch33zw1z]

This quote is good

Trump kicked off his Friday afternoon briefing with a brief reference to Clinesmith.
"That's just the beginning... what happened should never happen again. He is pleading guilty, terrible thing, terrible thing. The fact is they spied on my campaign and they got caught and you'll be hearing more," Trump said.

Oh, pleading guilty is a terrible thing?

mike flynn at DuckDuckGo

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[zinfamous]

Former FBI lawyer set to plead guilty to altering email during Russia investigation | CNN Politics

An FBI lawyer who worked on the surveillance warrant of former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page plans to plead guilty Friday to making a false statement in an email as part of an investigation into the Russia investigation.

www.cnn.com

Looks like this is going to be the beginning of indictments incoming. Told you guys that the Russia collusion was going to turn out differently.

this is not a good look for you.

 

[JEDIYoda]

this is not a good look for you.

True!! But it sure is damn funny!!

 

[cytg111]

True!! But it sure is damn funny!!

Well, either he is a Russian Troll Plant or he's in the camp of "would rather be a Russian...". Funny is subjective I guess.

 

[Greenman]

Let’s run with this.
Approximately when should I see these indictments and if I don’t see indictments does it meat the lawyers are incompetent or there is nothing to charge her with?

Don't know about indictments in general, but this is a pretty big deal. It's my understanding that the falsified information was used to obtain a FISA warrant. That's an instrument of surprising surprising depth and power, and should be carefully guarded against abuse.

 

[cytg111]

Don't know about indictments in general, but this is a pretty big deal. It's my understanding that the falsified information was used to obtain a FISA warrant. That's an instrument of surprising surprising depth and power, and should be carefully guarded against abuse.

I think they will find that the warrent was warrented without the alterations.
Do you know who Carter Page is? Already in *DEEP* with Russian agents 2013 2014, and when he then turns up on Trumps campaign "Russia are you listening" .. Roger Stone & WikiLeaks fallout, what do you do as an Intelligence Officer? - YEA its probably nothing, Ill look the other way, NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!.

Timeline of Carter Page’s Contacts with Russia [Updated] - Just Security

At the heart of the recent Nunes memo controversy lies a FISA order application for former Trump campaign aide Carter Page. But Page had piqued the interest of FBI investigators long before the Trump campaign, owing to his contacts with the Russian government and energy sector. For example, his...

www.justsecurity.org

He is Roger Stone level unstable.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Don't know about indictments in general, but this is a pretty big deal. It's my understanding that the falsified information was used to obtain a FISA warrant. That's an instrument of surprising surprising depth and power, and should be carefully guarded against abuse.

Been hearing this stuff for what 10 years now on Hillary and her email and whatever else, before that Bill Clinton and after that Obama. When can I expect charges to be made? When can I expect one of these criminals pay for their crimes? Seems to always be a threat with no action. Why is there never any action are the Republican Lawyers incompetent or is there just nothing to charge them with?
I am tired of "Any day now we will nail this lib talk from the guys who sound like Brandon" yup once again any minute now and people will be punished. 10 plus years and I am still waiting.

 

[fskimospy]

What I would love to hear is a conservative tell me why this guy should be prosecuted and Flynn not.

This is the corruption of the DOJ in full view and it’s a red alert for the country. If you’re friends with the president the law doesn’t apply to you.

 

[dank69]

Don't know about indictments in general, but this is a pretty big deal. It's my understanding that the falsified information was used to obtain a FISA warrant. That's an instrument of surprising surprising depth and power, and should be carefully guarded against abuse.

So what did he change? Why did he change it? What did it accomplish?

 

[fskimospy]

Don't know about indictments in general, but this is a pretty big deal. It's my understanding that the falsified information was used to obtain a FISA warrant. That's an instrument of surprising surprising depth and power, and should be carefully guarded against abuse.

Do you think Flynn should be in prison? If not, why should this guy be?

 

[ewdotson]

This quote is good



Oh, pleading guilty is a terrible thing?

mike flynn at DuckDuckGo

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Pleading guilty of lying to the FBI, at that.

Also worth noting: Clinesmith's altering the email was already in Horowitz' report. You know, the report that ultimately concluded that, "We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI's decision to seek FISA authority on Carter Page."

 

[Leymenaide]

Any bets on Trump Leaving the U.S. permanently on January 19th?

 

[Greenman]

Been hearing this stuff for what 10 years now on Hillary and her email and whatever else, before that Bill Clinton and after that Obama. When can I expect charges to be made? When can I expect one of these criminals pay for their crimes? Seems to always be a threat with no action. Why is there never any action are the Republican Lawyers incompetent or is there just nothing to charge them with?
I am tired of "Any day now we will nail this lib talk from the guys who sound like Brandon" yup once again any minute now and people will be punished. 10 plus years and I am still waiting.

I assume FISA warrants have always been abused. There has always been talk about how difficult they are to obtain, but then it came out that they are almost never denied. Falsifying information to obtain one seems to be common practice, and there appears to be no consequences for those involved. As far as I can tell, a simple "my bad" gets you off the hook.
You see this as rep vs dem, I see it as government with a very powerful tool that's used in secret. Who wouldn't want to have that? It's not a left or right issue, it's a power issue. Information is power, it's control, it's the life blood of government, no one is going to pull the plug on a system that allows them to spy on pretty much anyone and the people they talk to. Let me say that last part again, FISA warrants have depth, they cover your suspect and whoever your suspect talks to.
A few politicians rail against that power, but only when the other team has it. Both sides have had the power to pull the plug, they haven't done it, and they won't do it as long as they see an advantage for themselves.

 

[Commodus]

Any bets on Trump Leaving the U.S. permanently on January 19th?

I'm not counting on it, but I still picture Trump on inauguration day (the 20th) making it look like he's walking toward Marine One to leave the conventional way, only to duck into a hidden car that whisks him toward a private jet and a country without a US extradition treaty. Mysteriously, all his money has been moved to bank accounts the US can't touch.

The boring likelihood: Trump stays, but tries to stall the inevitable criminal cases and lawsuits that follow now that he can't use the presidency as a shield. He possibly succeeds in stalling things for a couple of years but eventually has to face the consequences of his actions. Assuming his terrible health habits don't finish him off first.

 

[rise]

So what did he change? Why did he change it? What did it accomplish?

He changed something along the lines that page 'was' a source for another agency to he 'was not' a source for an additional. I forget where I read that but that was the extent to my knowledge, should be easily found.

Either way, page is a scumbag traitor so whatever, this is a lot of nothing.

 

[Jhhnn]

Don't know about indictments in general, but this is a pretty big deal. It's my understanding that the falsified information was used to obtain a FISA warrant. That's an instrument of surprising surprising depth and power, and should be carefully guarded against abuse.

It's important to understand a few things. First off, Page was not part of the Trump campaign when the first warrant was issued in late October, so the "spying on the campaign!" routine is bullshit. At the time, the Trump campaign claimed Page never was a part of it in the first place. Second, Clinesmith altered the email in 2017 when seeking an extension of the surveillance, long after Trump had won.

The whole "spying on my campaign!" routine is claiming victimhood for imaginary harm, pure conspiracy theory. Were I running for President, I'd expect them to try to cover my back wrt people who might pose a national security risk or who sought illegal foreign assistance. Things can happen behind my back that I wouldn't want & nobody is omniscient. Trump obviously DGAF about any of that.

 

[Jhhnn]

I assume FISA warrants have always been abused. There has always been talk about how difficult they are to obtain, but then it came out that they are almost never denied. Falsifying information to obtain one seems to be common practice, and there appears to be no consequences for those involved. As far as I can tell, a simple "my bad" gets you off the hook.
You see this as rep vs dem, I see it as government with a very powerful tool that's used in secret. Who wouldn't want to have that? It's not a left or right issue, it's a power issue. Information is power, it's control, it's the life blood of government, no one is going to pull the plug on a system that allows them to spy on pretty much anyone and the people they talk to. Let me say that last part again, FISA warrants have depth, they cover your suspect and whoever your suspect talks to.
A few politicians rail against that power, but only when the other team has it. Both sides have had the power to pull the plug, they haven't done it, and they won't do it as long as they see an advantage for themselves.

You're lying to yourself. The reason that FISA warrants are rarely rejected is that they're rarely sought & that those seeking them have to fit it into a demanding & narrow national security template for a judge to approve. One instance of altering evidence is in no way reason to claim the practice is common. Fisa warrants don't "allow them to spy on pretty much everyone". That's ridiculous.

 

[feralkid]

So...when do we get to the "oranges"?

 

[Greenman]

Do you think Flynn should be in prison? If not, why should this guy be?

I didn't say he should be in prison

You're lying to yourself. The reason that FISA warrants are rarely rejected is that they're rarely sought & that those seeking them have to fit it into a demanding & narrow national security template for a judge to approve. One instance of altering evidence is in no way reason to claim the practice is common. Fisa warrants don't "allow them to spy on pretty much everyone". That's ridiculous.

As I understand it, a FISA warrant covers the suspect, anyone that suspect communicates with, and anyone the second person communicates with. That covers a lot of people under one warrant.

 

[fskimospy]

I didn't say he should be in prison

As I understand it, a FISA warrant covers the suspect, anyone that suspect communicates with, and anyone the second person communicates with. That covers a lot of people under one warrant.

Let me rephrase. Do you think the DOJ should drop this indictment? If not, do you think they should reinstate Flynn’s?

 

[fskimospy]

I’m genuinely curious because to me the biggest story here is friends of the president getting off while people the president views as enemies getting prosecuted.

 

[Jhhnn]

I didn't say he should be in prison

As I understand it, a FISA warrant covers the suspect, anyone that suspect communicates with, and anyone the second person communicates with. That covers a lot of people under one warrant.

You offer no proof that such a thing is true & I doubt that it is. A normal wiretap warrant only covers actual conversation. The authorities can investigate people on the other end but a warrant would be required to follow their communications further. Fisa warrants aren't different, to my knowledge, there's just a different path to being issued.

 

[hal2kilo]

I assume FISA warrants have always been abused. There has always been talk about how difficult they are to obtain, but then it came out that they are almost never denied. Falsifying information to obtain one seems to be common practice, and there appears to be no consequences for those involved. As far as I can tell, a simple "my bad" gets you off the hook.
You see this as rep vs dem, I see it as government with a very powerful tool that's used in secret. Who wouldn't want to have that? It's not a left or right issue, it's a power issue. Information is power, it's control, it's the life blood of government, no one is going to pull the plug on a system that allows them to spy on pretty much anyone and the people they talk to. Let me say that last part again, FISA warrants have depth, they cover your suspect and whoever your suspect talks to.
A few politicians rail against that power, but only when the other team has it. Both sides have had the power to pull the plug, they haven't done it, and they won't do it as long as they see an advantage for themselves.

So we should just ignore people who pal around with Russians and then get involved in an election campaign. Or maybe should we check them out a little. Then if they are still palling around check them again. (Kind of what happened)

 

[eelw]

Any bets on Trump Leaving the U.S. permanently on January 19th?

I’m assuming his secret service detail needs to know all travel details before hand. So unless his private security plans to take out the SS, there’s governmental eyes on him 24/7 after January 20th.

 

[UNCjigga]

Former FBI lawyer set to plead guilty to altering email during Russia investigation | CNN Politics

An FBI lawyer who worked on the surveillance warrant of former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page plans to plead guilty Friday to making a false statement in an email as part of an investigation into the Russia investigation.

www.cnn.com

Looks like this is going to be the beginning of indictments incoming. Told you guys that the Russia collusion was going to turn out differently.

Your shitpost doesn’t merit any words, so...