I want evidence. I don't want wild eyed tin foil hat conspiracy theories. Which seems to be enough for you lefties.
If there is evidence I'll be just as pissed as you are now. I like to wait for evidence before I grab my pitchforks and accuse a person of treason. I'm weird like that.
I know right? How disgraceful to want evidence of treason in order to accuse people of it.lol, such a disgrace to humanity you are.
I know right? How disgraceful to want evidence of treason in order to accuse people of it.
Yes I am aware of Michael Flynn. Not disclosing those payments isn't evidence of collusion with Russia.are you aware of Michael Flynn?
do you realize that Donald Trump appointed Flynn National Security Adviser and knew he was paid by Turkey and Russia and had lied about it on disclosure forms, which is a very serious crime?
that's straight treason comrade.
keep being Putin's puppet, he is laughing the hardest right now.
I asked about collusion with Russia by Trump. Don't deflect. You don't have any evidence. You say Flynn got some undisclosed payments and point to other crimes, but no collusion.some considered voting for Trump as treason and some considered it signing a deal with the devil. do you have evidence the devil is real?
You people need some reality. There is no evidence of this insane conspiracy the left is hoping beyond hope is true.Buckshot keeps his focus tight.
Narrow even.
I know right? How disgraceful to want evidence of treason in order to accuse people of it.
He's made a lot of mistakes. Since he is so prone to them how likely would it be that he could successfully keep something like this from the public and investigators for so long?Dunno if it's that. What I'm sure of is that Trump kept escalating foolishly & arrogantly until he got his own Special Counsel. I don't think he can escalate out of that so he'd best be squeaky clean in all matters if he's to survive. I doubt that's the case.
He's made a lot of mistakes. Since he is so prone to them how likely would it be that he could successfully keep something like this from the public and investigators for so long?
Does anybody here care about collusion anymore? Just want to get him or anybody else for whatever they can stick to him?
I think you should look up what a strawman is.I see you are back, fucking straw men again.
Oh great now I've got buckshat all over me!!
I would agree it's a bit of a pipe dream. It's the same sort of smack the left talked about Bush over both of his terms. Trump is degrees worse than Bush, but it's unlikely he will go down either, unfortunately.He's made a lot of mistakes. Since he is so prone to them how likely would it be that he could successfully keep something like this from the public and investigators for so long?
Does anybody here care about collusion anymore? Just want to get him or anybody else for whatever they can stick to him?
But you don't know of any evidence either?I see you are back, fucking straw men again.
Oh great now I've got buckshat all over me!!
Actually, here in objective, observable reality, it was an adequate way to say:That is a long way to say, "no".
Do you really, in your heart of hearts, believe Trump colluded with Russia? That is the kind of things Alex Jones would come up with.
I want evidence. I don't want wild eyed tin foil hat conspiracy theories. Which seems to be enough for you lefties.
I'm asking you if you believe this nonsense, it matters. And who thinks believing makes it so?Actually, here in objective, observable reality, it was an adequate way to say:
The. Investigation. Is. Beginning.
It doesn't matter what I "believe". Which is, of course, what separates me from a modern US conservative.
My "beliefs" don't make something so.
Hahahahaha.
Birth Certificates!
Transcripts!
Fast and Furious!
Death Panels!
Benghazi!
Benghazi!
Benghazi!
Benghazi!
Email server!
Benghazi!
Pizzagate!
Yeah, keep on keepin' on.
I think you should look up what a strawman is.
Yes, ignore the arsonist setting the block on fire because there are toddlers mindlessly rubbing sticks together in a bathtub.I would agree it's a bit of a pipe dream. It's the same sort of smack the left talked about Bush over both of his terms. Trump is degrees worse than Bush, but it's unlikely he will go down either, unfortunately.
The Dems should tend to their own house and clean it up. But they are so focused on bringing Trump down they neglect their own issues. I've mentioned this before but it completely falls on deaf ears in here. That's the core of single-minded partisan idiocy though. There is no introspection in politics, at least in P&N.
So no collusion but the Steele Dossier is accurate? How could that work?How about this scenario.
There's no direct collusion in this election because it didn't need to be, it's a game controlled by Putin. Trump is involved with Russia shady businessmen since at least 10 years. Putin followed the text book of how to break US democracy by playing the Alt Right Wing card and Trump was the perfect candidate. For oligarchies, he will be the laundering money door and for Putin he's the political tool to divide US from inside.
Trump, himself, never wanted to win nor expected to win. He just wanted to play his game for PR since it will help him to further make more money from it. He made a lot of money from investors pocket while losing billions of dollars from his casinos. It's the only thing he could do: exploit the name to the ground. Trump steak, vodka, university are examples. He's not a businessman, he's a used car seller. In his case, Trump brand is the car. That's also the reason he will never release his tax. It will show everything he wanted to hide from his relationship with Russia and how poor he is in reality.
He won the election, it's beyond Trump projection. The picture taken when he was announced winner showed it all. I doubt quite a few person around him knew it too. Trump found himself in a situation where he never thought it would happen. Hence, his hate for Hilary deepened since 'she should've won'. This is what he repeated a lot in in his current miserable situation. It's all her fault. She should have won. We all know how it's always someone fault in his book. He will never admit Putin got him since Putin really had him by the balls. The steele dossier, in my opinion, is accurate.
It's simply illogical to think that Trump did all his campaign where he said he spent his personal money to not expect to win anything. At the same time, he also said after his election that he was confident that he would have won again or even in a different scenario. So one of the two statements is false. Since he still vent his anger on Hillary. One part is deflection, one part is true anger. She put him in this situation.
Trump is living the worst days of his life and he knows that. He can be stupid but he feels danger. He probably never felt this way his whole life. But he's so inept that everything he does only accelerate his demise. For the first time, he's in a situation where he cannot simply get out of it unharmed by playing the bully or doing the 'what you gonna do about that' game.
My 2 cents.
Trump isn't going down over any of this. This is much more likely to happen than any of the insane conspiracies are true.Yes, ignore the arsonist setting the block on fire because there are toddlers mindlessly rubbing sticks together in a bathtub.
BothSidesDoIt™ now, BothSidesDoIt™ tomorrow, BothSidesDoIt™ forever.
"You people"?You people need some reality. There is no evidence of this insane conspiracy the left is hoping beyond hope is true.
Do you have a theory on how all this might have happened? I think a reasonable discussion about that could be had. To me it is just a complete house of cards built on a house of cards.
Just be honest, its a long shot any of this collusion nonsense pans out for the tinfoil hat crowd.
So no collusion but the Steele Dossier is accurate? How could that work?
Well thanks for that. I won't argue beyond that since it doesn't have collusion.I wanted to quote the part of the dirt, Russian hookers, that Putin had on him.
One of the thing you learn with Trump is he will always speak his mind one way or another. He talked about how he's always careful when travel outside of US etc. He also talked about wire tapping , microwave camera (not him but could be his narrative), it's almost a personal story since he was a victim himself.
Well thanks for that. I won't argue beyond that since it doesn't have collusion.
Does anybody have a coherent theory on how a Russia/Trump collusion scenario would work?