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nickqt

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Trump isn't going down over any of this. This is much more likely to happen than any of the insane conspiracies are true.
Exhibit A: Modern US conservative believes that his "beliefs" determine objective, observable reality. And of the future, none the less.

Keep on keepin' on.
 

buckshot24

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Exhibit A: Modern US conservative believes that his "beliefs" determine objective, observable reality. And of the future, none the less.

Keep on keepin' on.
I didn't even hint at that.

Still, not a shred of evidence that any of this collusion nonsense is true and I'll stick to my belief that nothing happened until proven otherwise WITH evidence. Not with your hopes and dreams.
 

buckshot24

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The collusion is a plan by the Russians without Trump fully understanding what he is into.

One of the very common tactic used by mafia to gain access to 'business' for money laundering purpose is to identify victims with legitimate business who will need money or loan because they are in financial difficulties or simply greedy. With or without them knowing it. Eventually, it's too late to go back and become fully controlled by the 'partners'.

Trump would be too inept for anyone with a brain to collude with for such a huge case. We are living history in the making. Trump is a con man projected to a situation where he will pay for his incompetency which he succeeded to elude all his life.

With or without proof of collusion, Trump is complicit and it's criminal, at least in my book. In this case, he put the country in jeopardy.
Collusion requires two parties.
 

Younigue

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He's made a lot of mistakes. Since he is so prone to them how likely would it be that he could successfully keep something like this from the public and investigators for so long?

Does anybody here care about collusion anymore? Just want to get him or anybody else for whatever they can stick to him?
What a delightfully passive aggressive Trumpublican. I'm newish here so I don't know who you are but so far your posts have put a sparkle in my eye and a slight curve on my lips that mimic a smile.

Above they fray are ya? Swing and a miss.

I can only speak for myself. Yes, I want something to stick as is often the case when people see someone who is so obviously corrupt but wealthy enough and/or influential enough to avoid consequences. This is not a case of an innocent man being unfairly persecuted. He is filth and a tragedy for the country. I'd love for him to be removed for that alone. But sadly we must wait to see what sticks. Just imagine if all his skeletons came out and stuck?

Any way, you stand out from the other Cult45's but less ridiculous, you are not. In fact your methods of interaction are almost creepier. Ya got your blinders on, c*ckholster fitted (but pinching) and saddled up but why ever would you want to be ridden by a shirtless Putin and his boy toy? They may play a little too rough for your passive aggressive tastes. I don't think they treat their play things very well either. No worries you can be in the next Toy Story.
Toy Story: Brains of Wood and Plastic Reject Reality. Pinocchio's a real Schmuck! The story of a group of toys abused by their owner but ever so thankful for any attention they receive, not understanding that they had the feels all along. Will they hate the feels more when it is discovered their owners put no value in them what so ever? Or will they finally wish to become real boys and girls in order to behave like decent people? Stay tuned... The owner's gonna get his regardless of what his toys decide. Will it have a Russian flavor or be an obstruction of some sort?

Ok, went off on a tangent there but I amused myself so there ya have it. Looking forward to the movie. I suspect your character will have a small role.
 

buckshot24

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What a delightfully passive aggressive Trumpublican. I'm newish here so I don't know who you are but so far your posts have put a sparkle in my eye and a slight curve on my lips that mimic a smile.

Above they fray are ya? Swing and a miss.

I can only speak for myself. Yes, I want something to stick as is often the case when people see someone who is so obviously corrupt but wealthy enough and/or influential enough to avoid consequences. This is not a case of an innocent man being unfairly persecuted. He is filth and a tragedy for the country. I'd love for him to be removed for that alone. But sadly we must wait to see what sticks. Just imagine if all his skeletons came out and stuck?

Any way, you stand out from the other Cult45's but less ridiculous, you are not. In fact your methods of interaction are almost creepier. Ya got your blinders on, c*ckholster fitted (but pinching) and saddled up but why ever would you want to be ridden by a shirtless Putin and his boy toy? They may play a little too rough for your passive aggressive tastes. I don't think they treat their play things very well either. No worries you can be in the next Toy Story.
Toy Story: Brains of Wood and Plastic Reject Reality. Pinocchio's a real Schmuck! The story of a group of toys abused by their owner but ever so thankful for any attention they receive, not understanding that they had the feels all along. Will they hate the feels more when it is discovered their owners put no value in them what so ever? Or will they finally wish to become real boys and girls in order to behave like decent people? Stay tuned... The owner's gonna get his regardless of what his toys decide. Will it have a Russian flavor or be an obstruction of some sort?

Ok, went off on a tangent there but I amused myself so there ya have it. Looking forward to the movie. I suspect your character will have a small role.
This seems like a slightly improved MoonBeam bot.

Do you even care about the collusion at this point? That boat isn't floating.
 

zzyzxroad

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Well thanks for that. I won't argue beyond that since it doesn't have collusion.

Does anybody have a coherent theory on how a Russia/Trump collusion scenario would work?

Are you saying let's all just wait until the investigation has sorted this out? Seems the logical thing right? Can't hurt to look for fire if there is a little smoke.
 

nickqt

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I didn't even hint at that.

Still, not a shred of evidence that any of this collusion nonsense is true and I'll stick to my belief that nothing happened until proven otherwise WITH evidence. Not with your hopes and dreams.
Why would there be shreds of evidence in my possession while a Special Prosecutor is right now beginning to investigate?

You continue stating your beliefs.

I'll continue only stating facts.

The. Investigation. Is. Beginning.

You'll nowhere on the entire planet find me saying overtly or implicitly that I believe Trump did or didn't do anything illegal. You may believe I have, just as you believe Trump is innocent and will shortly make America great again, but your beliefs are neither here nor there.
 

jackstar7

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This seems like a slightly improved MoonBeam bot.

Do you even care about the collusion at this point? That boat isn't floating.
Just to clarify, you're talking specifically about Trump collusion with Russia, right? Not his campaign or members of it, right?
 

VVV

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Collusion requires two parties.

We discuss semantic here. Shall I say he's complicit to a crime where he's a victim of his greed ? The only thing that makes it so huge is that he's POTUS ?

Putin won no matter what. At best, he has a puppet at the dream position, sanctions lifted. At worst, US is divided like never before even after Trump is gone and Putin is a hero among his supporters for clowning the US. Absolute political gain. He also put a scar in US-Allies that will not heal anytime soon. From this moment, USA is not a 'reliable' partner anymore since the most unimaginable thing has happened. This doubt won't go anywhere.

You don't seem to care about anything other than the fact that Trump did not plan this all along rather than the disastrous consequence of the current situation in which he is the main tool/player ?
 

Younigue

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This seems like a slightly improved MoonBeam bot.

Do you even care about the collusion at this point? That boat isn't floating.
I care about anything corrupt or treasonous about this heinous individual. No, there is no room in my mind that he is anything but corrupt and treasonous.

Lol, me and Moonbeam go way back (at least a couple of months, maybe only one). He's alright by me.
 
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buckshot24

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Are you saying let's all just wait until the investigation has sorted this out? Seems the logical thing right? Can't hurt to look for fire if there is a little smoke.
It CAN hurt. If there is no collusion and no real indication that there was then the only thing they will find are possible process crimes.
 

buckshot24

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We discuss semantic here. Shall I say he's complicit to a crime where he's a victim of his greed ? The only thing that makes it so huge is that he's POTUS ?

Putin won no matter what. At best, he has a puppet at the dream position, sanctions lifted. At worst, US is divided like never before even after Trump is gone and Putin is a hero among his supporters for clowning the US. Absolute political gain. He also put a scar in US-Allies that will not heal anytime soon. From this moment, USA is not a 'reliable' partner anymore since the most unimaginable thing has happened. This doubt won't go anywhere.

You don't seem to care about anything other than the fact that Trump did not plan this all along rather than the disastrous consequence of the current situation in which he is the main tool/player ?
You don't really believe this crap, do you?
 

VVV

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As far as collusion is concerned, yes.

Congratulations, you have found the small sand box where you can safely put all your faith in there without feeling completely insecure about your conviction. The truth from within.

Having that much faith can lead to total satisfaction or complete deception. Since you have decided to sink with the boat, it's still better to find the last possible floating object to hang with it.

That is all. Faith is not something to argue with. Can't never prove the opposite, like the existence of God.
 

Younigue

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Parse these words. I do not care what you think of Trump. Show me some evidence that he colluded with Russia or admit you have none.
Nope. I got my feels and in this instance with this person the math just worKS, ya know?

Starting you don't care about my feelings is pretty rough. Why you wanna be so cruel?
 

buckshot24

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Congratulations, you have found the small sand box where you can safely put all your faith in there without feeling completely insecure about your conviction. The truth from within.

Having that much faith can lead to total satisfaction or complete deception. Since you have decided to sink with the boat, it's still better to find the last possible floating object to hang with it.

That is all. Faith is not something to argue with. Can't never prove the opposite, like the existence of God.
There is NO evidence of this collusion though. haha
 
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