Lordy, we better start building tons of jails. I wonder what effect locking up 63 million voters will have?
Lordy, we better start building tons of jails. I wonder what effect locking up 63 million voters will have?
treason - the crime of betraying one's country
EVERYBODY who voted for Trump is guilty of exactly that, whether they realize it or not. btw, that includes my parents and plenty of other relatives.
not sure what your zombie apocalypse obsession is though.
I'm pretty sure those that voted for and supported the nazis weren't thrown in jail after their defeat. What did happen was those people were shamed into hiding or renouncing their support.
It might say something about you that you think rounding up people and putting them into jail was the first option that came into your head though.
Not aimed at you, earlier other posters were saying all Trump voters needed to be locked up for treason.
Not aimed at you, earlier other posters were saying all Trump voters needed to be locked up for treason.
are you sure about that, or did you just make that up in your head?
i just checked and don't see any such postings, unless someone i have on ignore posted it.
treason - the crime of betraying one's country
EVERYBODY who voted for Trump is guilty of exactly that, whether they realize it or not. btw, that includes my parents and plenty of other relatives.
I hate to bring up nazis but I can't think of a better example.
Yes, it's a real mystery why millions of voters hate the left and voted purely to spite them
Just remember, the country is at least 1/4 made of people like Blue Rofl there.
I hate to bring up nazis but I can't think of a better example. When Hitler rose to power and Germanys citizens okayed what he did and continued to support him through the war, in hindsight were they traitors? Does not getting in the way and voting/supporting politicians whose policies allowed for Hitler's rise and allowed their fellow citizens to be killed by government make them traitors? If not then what would you call people who not only allowed Hitler to happen but also supported politicians that enabled the nazi party to rise to power and to kill off other political parties?
I'm not interested in waiting for the next Hitler to start killing people before I say, "whoa! That's going too far", are you?
What's happening now is a real attack on our democracy.
We have a party that is actively rigging elections to ensure they maintain power.
We have a party that is actively trying to stifle science and education.
We have a party that purposely failed to do its duty to confirm or deny a supreme court justice.
We have a president that is actively demonizing groups of people (Muslims, illegal immigrants).
We have a president who won't even acknowledge that a foreign government tried to meddle in our election.
We had a presidential candidate who questioned our election's integrity when it looked like he was going to lose.
We have a president who actively demonizes the press which is a safe guard to ensuring our democracy is legitimate.
We have businesses who support the above and who are actively pushing propaganda and lies and reinforcing the above president.
Worst of all, we have a large populace who supports the above uncritically.
If you don't call the above attack on our democracy treason, then I'm not sure what you would call it.
Make no mistake, the alarm bells are ringing.
If there was enough pull going with the current government stance, then no, they were not traitors. Same with Trump. People's opinions change, policies change, etc. People won't always agree. The question is intent. If Trump truly believes he is doing the 'good', and his followers continue to think he is....who is treasonous, the ones who follow him or the ones who don't?
Of course everyone else thought Hitler was bad, but apparently most of Germany didn't at the time. Do you really think that if someone went so far as to assassinate Trump there would be a cry of joy because they just saved everyone from the next Hitler? (this is a great exaggeration, but my point is there's still way too much support for Trump to be considered 'bad and treasonous' at this point). I honestly do not see an out. I think Trump will run his 4 years, and possibly go 8. At this point what else could he do to railroad himself out?
Traitors? Just dupes believing in a Strong Man Leader promising to make Germany/America Great Again. Of course Germany was in a depression with a fantastic inflation rate and horrible economy due to WWI sanctions while we(with a recovering economy, unicorns and little pink ponies) had a circle-jerk rejection of those that would tax the rich to provide health care for the poor. Hey!! Think they were just jealous of other people doing good?I hate to bring up nazis but I can't think of a better example. When Hitler rose to power and Germanys citizens okayed what he did and continued to support him through the war, in hindsight were they traitors? Does not getting in the way and voting/supporting politicians whose policies allowed for Hitler's rise and allowed their fellow citizens to be killed by government make them traitors? If not then what would you call people who not only allowed Hitler to happen but also supported politicians that enabled the nazi party to rise to power and to kill off other political parties?
I'm not interested in waiting for the next Hitler to start killing people before I say, "whoa! That's going too far", are you?
What's happening now is a real attack on our democracy.
We have a party that is actively rigging elections to ensure they maintain power.
We have a party that is actively trying to stifle science and education.
We have a party that purposely failed to do its duty to confirm or deny a supreme court justice.
We have a president that is actively demonizing groups of people (Muslims, illegal immigrants).
We have a president who won't even acknowledge that a foreign government tried to meddle in our election.
We had a presidential candidate who questioned our election's integrity when it looked like he was going to lose.
We have a president who actively demonizes the press which is a safe guard to ensuring our democracy is legitimate.
We have businesses who support the above and who are actively pushing propaganda and lies and reinforcing the above president.
Worst of all, we have a large populace who supports the above uncritically.
If you don't call the above attack on our democracy treason, then I'm not sure what you would call it.
Make no mistake, the alarm bells are ringing.
In defense of werepossum (and I feel dirty saying that), he actually wasn't one of the posters who constantly cried Benghazi and he had a more critical eye of the accusations being made. The emails on the other hand....
Just for grins and giggles: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
I know posting the actual legal definition of treason is useless to those in the throws of Trump Derangement Syndrome, but for the rest of us it's worth noting that maybe a quarter of the nation firmly believes that the other three-quarters is guilty of a crime for which the penalty is potentially death. Even having suffered through eight years of Obama Derangement Syndrome with probably an equal percentage of our population, which exceeded Bush Derangement Syndrome and even Reagan Derangement Syndrome, that's sobering. Especially given that these deranged individuals extend the definition of our enemies to include nations with which we are nominally at peace, when it's politically advantageous to do so.
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
Nope, not on the liberals. Not even on the progressives as a group. Just raging on the insane among you who assert that everyone who voted for Trump - and those like myself, who never voted for Trump and never will - is treasonous. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a terrible thing.werepossum is off his meds today. Raging on the liberals.
It's true that Hillary's private server as well as her deleting some emails and altering others that legally should have been preserved (which we learned of through the Blumenthal hack) really bothered me. However, compared to you guys, I was and remain a veritable paragon of sanity. Note that I never referred to such as treason nor demanded she be imprisoned. To the contrary, I pointed out that she could not ethically be imprisoned for doing 100% of the time what the Bushies were caught doing some of the time.Fair enough if true. I do seem to recall him getting a lot of traction with Mr Ben-Gazi, but in my defense all of those gyrations from the right tend to meld together. Perhaps I was easily confusing the celebrity of Ben Gazi with Butteremails.
Even scarier, the country might be 1/4 made up of people like you. Probably not, but still.Just remember, the country is at least 1/4 made of people like Blue Rofl there.
It's true that Hillary's private server as well as her deleting some emails and altering others that legally should have been preserved (which we learned of through the Blumenthal hack) really bothered me.
The altered emails bit is scurrilous bullshit. I challenge you to authenticate the claim.
The deleting of emails was also a bullshit claim as Clinton didn't delete her emails and instead left that decision to her lawyers.