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fskimospy

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He kind of reminds me of Rush Limbaugh's drug abuse scandal and we all know how that turned out.

I will always love how his defense for his behavior at his custody trial was 'I'm not insane, I'm a con man.'

Duping crazed ultra right conservatives has become a multi billion dollar industry in America. Look at just how many right wing personalities there are spewing crazy shit while hawking stupid crap on their websites. There is no left equivalent for this.
 

ch33zw1z

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I will always love how his defense for his behavior at his custody trial was 'I'm not insane, I'm a con man.'

Duping crazed ultra right conservatives has become a multi billion dollar industry in America. Look at just how many right wing personalities there are spewing crazy shit while hawking stupid crap on their websites. There is no left equivalent for this.
Sucks right? I can't find Tapper's penis enlargement topical balm anywhere
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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You are trying to compare marginal leftist personalities with the fucking nominee for president from the Republicans. Talk about dissembling. There is no equivalent behavior from Russia in a presidential election within my lifetime at a minimum, probably ever. Sorry buddy, you're going to have to deal with how things happened in the real world.

To this day there is literally zero credible evidence that Clinton was a 'crook'. You likely believe there is because you have heard it so many times from other conservatives and right wing media. On the other hand there is ample evidence that Trump is a crook. Comparing the two is deeply, deeply dishonest.

Hit a nerve, didn't I? Werepossum did say more than he knows- people voted for Trump because they believe in lies. They just haven't figured that out. Some of them never will.
 

Younigue

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Organized crime cases often take time to build. That's really what this is about, organized crime at the international level. Mueller was appointed in May, not even 4 months ago, so they're just getting warmed up, taking in information from the FBI, the IC, the IRS, foreign govts, State AG's & others, I'm sure. It's an all star team of professional ball breakers. We'll see what they can piece together & who they get to roll over. None of 'em look like G Gordon Liddy to me....
I have to keep reminding myself that it hasn't been very long since Mueller has been working on this. 4 months in a Trump term feels like years!
 
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fskimospy

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So giving a speech in Russia now equals corruption?
Fusion GPS didn't buy fake info from Kremlin. They hired a British intelligence officer and he's testified before Congress.
I have no idea what you are talking about regarding receiving millions from Russian businessmen but I hope for your sake you aren't parroting the bullshit Russian uranium story.

How are you so uninformed?

The most likely answer is that he consumes a lot of conservative media. He clearly consumes some media that's let him know that Fusion GPS exists and things like that, he's just repeating all the other lies that conservative media piled on top of them. I mean the Steele dossier being created in Russia? Getting millions of dollars from Russia while secretary of state? That seems to be some sort of inadvertent (or deliberate) conflation of the Clinton Foundation and Clinton herself. It's as if you said if you donated to the Red Cross that you were donating to the CEO of the Red Cross personally. It's the same old delusional conspiracy theories that werepossum is so well known for.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-russian-uranium-deal/?utm_term=.603da068704b

This is what happens when someone lives in the conservative media bubble. I have no doubt all the insane things he just said sound perfectly reasonable to him and he believes the only reason you don't believe them too is that you're just as trapped in some sort of similar bubble, only on the left.
 

zinfamous

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Very few people voted FOR Trump compared to those who voted against Hillary and the establishment of both parties. Ask a Trump voter (in a civil tone, if that is possible for you) why she voted for Trump and you'll likely get a litany of reasons not to vote for Hillary, Cruz, Kasich, Bush III, etc. It was never about who or what he is, it was about who and what he is not.

That's how children vote.
 
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Jhhnn

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So giving a speech in Russia now equals corruption?
Fusion GPS didn't buy fake info from Kremlin. They hired a British intelligence officer and he's testified before Congress.
I have no idea what you are talking about regarding receiving millions from Russian businessmen but I hope for your sake you aren't parroting the bullshit Russian uranium story.

How are you so uninformed?

He's just spreading the Hillary hate & making excuses for himself & the Donald.
 

fskimospy

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You can't be serious?

Fern

Definitely 100% serious, although obviously I haven't checked the numbers that closely. (it might only be hundreds of millions/a billion or so) Is your objection that you believe Rush Limbaugh's show is generally factually accurate and so he's not duping people? Or that he actually believes the crazy shit he says? Is it the dollar figures? Are you saying there's some sort of left equivalent?

Through previous jobs I had I've (unfortunately) listened to hundreds of hours of right wing talk radio. The crazy is real. I challenge anyone who doubts me to listen for a week or so and write down the sort of things you hear. It's frightening how far out there they are.
 

fskimospy

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kage69

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Silly Gwyn. She clearly needs some nascent iodine. Someone needs to tell her you're supposed to sell stuff that works. You know, like Alex Jones! Super left wing guy btw, just like Pat Robertson who happens to sell those outstanding and magical marxist pancakes.
 

Jhhnn

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What on earth makes you think that pseudoscientific homeopathic nonsense is left wing or that Gwyneth Paltrow is hawking some sort of left wing ideology with her website? That's ridiculous. It reminds me of how people tried to claim the anti-vaccine movement is some liberal thing when polls show liberals and conservatives distrust them equally.

It's a desperate attempt to establish the usual "They're just as bad so I can believe whatever I want".
 

Jhhnn

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I don't know what's worse, the fact that Russia bothered to do this or the fact that there are enough people who Russia thought would latch on to this.

Those people have been primed by decades of divisive & relentless right wing agitprop. They're half nuts in the first place, something the Russians could identify & exploit to further the destruction of American civilization. They backed Trump for the same reasons. I'm sure that worked out better than they'd hoped. If they could get us to start shooting each other they'd supply the insurrectionists if they could, kinda like the Donbass.

They didn't just massage the minds of right wingers but of a lot of other people as well-

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/russia-facebook-twitter-election.html?mcubz=1&_r=0
 
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vi edit

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Old Pauly Walnuts has some 'splainin to do....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.5c2bdeebed95


"Less than two weeks before Donald Trump accepted the Republican presidential nomination, his campaign chairman offered to provide briefings on the race to a Russian billionaire closely aligned with the Kremlin, according to people familiar with the discussions.

Paul Manafort made the offer in an email to an overseas intermediary, asking that a message be sent to Oleg Deripaska, an aluminum magnate with whom Manafort had done business in the past, these people said.

“If he needs private briefings we can accommodate,” Manafort wrote in the July 7, 2016, email, portions of which were read to The Washington Post along with other Manafort correspondence from that time.

The emails are among tens of thousands of documents that have been turned over to congressional investigators and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s team as they probe whether Trump associates coordinated with Russia as part of Moscow’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. election. "
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Old Pauly Walnuts has some 'splainin to do....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.5c2bdeebed95


"Less than two weeks before Donald Trump accepted the Republican presidential nomination, his campaign chairman offered to provide briefings on the race to a Russian billionaire closely aligned with the Kremlin, according to people familiar with the discussions.

Paul Manafort made the offer in an email to an overseas intermediary, asking that a message be sent to Oleg Deripaska, an aluminum magnate with whom Manafort had done business in the past, these people said.

“If he needs private briefings we can accommodate,” Manafort wrote in the July 7, 2016, email, portions of which were read to The Washington Post along with other Manafort correspondence from that time.

The emails are among tens of thousands of documents that have been turned over to congressional investigators and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s team as they probe whether Trump associates coordinated with Russia as part of Moscow’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. election. "

but her emails, amirite?
 
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werepossum

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So giving a speech in Russia now equals corruption?
Fusion GPS didn't buy fake info from Kremlin. They hired a British intelligence officer and he's testified before Congress.
I have no idea what you are talking about regarding receiving millions from Russian businessmen but I hope for your sake you aren't parroting the bullshit Russian uranium story.

How are you so uninformed?
No, no! We all know it's simply coincidence that the Clinton Foundation received ~$150 million in donations from the owners of the companies standing to profit from the uranium acquisition, Russians included. They're just a swell bunch of guys who recognized another swell lady who - purely coincidentally - was one of the people who had to sign off on the deal. Just like it's simply coincidence that the Clinton Foundation forgot to disclose those donations as promised until they were finally outed by an investigative reporter. And of course, it's equally (at least!) coincidental that Bill Clinton picks up a half mil from a Russian company with close ties to the Russian government while that is going on. And of course, the money that Fusion GPS received from the Russian government was also purely coincidental - that was for a completely unrelated matter that just happened to be cotemporal.

No, I was referring to the tens of millions in other Russian donations. Although clearly these too are pure coincidental. The Russian government, like the Saudis and other dictators, are just a bunch of really great folks interested in making the world a better place and purely by coincidence, happened to choose another swell family to make that happen. The fact that Mrs. Clinton had an enormous amount of power with the US government was - wait for it! - purely coincidental. We can tell by the way donations plummeted after Mrs. Clinton lost that power - since it was purely coincidental that donations plummeted after Mrs. Clinton could no longer do favors with government policy, it's obviously purely coincidental that hundreds of millions in donations came to her foundation when she could do favors with government policy.
 

werepossum

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The most likely answer is that he consumes a lot of conservative media. He clearly consumes some media that's let him know that Fusion GPS exists and things like that, he's just repeating all the other lies that conservative media piled on top of them. I mean the Steele dossier being created in Russia? Getting millions of dollars from Russia while secretary of state? That seems to be some sort of inadvertent (or deliberate) conflation of the Clinton Foundation and Clinton herself. It's as if you said if you donated to the Red Cross that you were donating to the CEO of the Red Cross personally. It's the same old delusional conspiracy theories that werepossum is so well known for.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-russian-uranium-deal/?utm_term=.603da068704b

This is what happens when someone lives in the conservative media bubble. I have no doubt all the insane things he just said sound perfectly reasonable to him and he believes the only reason you don't believe them too is that you're just as trapped in some sort of similar bubble, only on the left.
Yep. Clearly this was purely coincidental. Why, Hillary can't possibly be expected to know what the department she leads is actually doing. She's too busy counting the money rolling into the Clinton Foundation.
 
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No, no! We all know it's simply coincidence that the Clinton Foundation received ~$150 million in donations from the owners of the companies standing to profit from the uranium acquisition, Russians included. They're just a swell bunch of guys who recognized another swell lady who - purely coincidentally - was one of the people who had to sign off on the deal. Just like it's simply coincidence that the Clinton Foundation forgot to disclose those donations as promised until they were finally outed by an investigative reporter. And of course, it's equally (at least!) coincidental that Bill Clinton picks up a half mil from a Russian company with close ties to the Russian government while that is going on. And of course, the money that Fusion GPS received from the Russian government was also purely coincidental - that was for a completely unrelated matter that just happened to be cotemporal.

No, I was referring to the tens of millions in other Russian donations. Although clearly these too are pure coincidental. The Russian government, like the Saudis and other dictators, are just a bunch of really great folks interested in making the world a better place and purely by coincidence, happened to choose another swell family to make that happen. The fact that Mrs. Clinton had an enormous amount of power with the US government was - wait for it! - purely coincidental. We can tell by the way donations plummeted after Mrs. Clinton lost that power - since it was purely coincidental that donations plummeted after Mrs. Clinton could no longer do favors with government policy, it's obviously purely coincidental that hundreds of millions in donations came to her foundation when she could do favors with government policy.


Funny how all their tax filings were voluntary given isn't it. Good thing the Presidents tax filings are so perfect they don't need to be seen.
 

fskimospy

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Yep. Clearly this was purely coincidental. Why, Hillary can't possibly be expected to know what the department she leads is actually doing. She's too busy counting the money rolling into the Clinton Foundation.

I am totally shocked that evidence to the contrary did nothing to change your mind.
 
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