Honest question here, have presidential pardons ever been challenged by any court?
If he starts handing out pardons to people like Halloween candy is there any way to keep him from subverting the rule of law in this manner?
Draining the swamp only works if the alligators and assorted monsters are removed more quickly than they can be replaced. I predict that Trump will break the record in pardons, but given that much of his own party hates him, he probably can't replace them all that quickly.
All very true so we can only hope that justice is actually served by these proceedings.Draining the swamp only works if the alligators and assorted monsters are removed more quickly than they can be replaced. I predict that Trump will break the record in pardons, but given that much of his own party hates him, he probably can't replace them all that quickly.
Honest question here, have presidential pardons ever been challenged by any court?
Oh yeah Flynn is going down for sure.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/muelle...-deliver-cleric-to-turkey-1510309982?mod=e2tw
There's more details to it. More specifics..I thought this was already widely known?
Why certainly like this new information.There's more details to it. More specifics..
More like 12 days of Christmas.They should have a little fun with the indictments. Unseal a new one each day. Like a Trump impeachment advent calendar.
Honest question here, have presidential pardons ever been challenged by any court?
If he starts handing out pardons to people like Halloween candy is there any way to keep him from subverting the rule of law in this manner?
As of right now there is no way to stop him from subverting the rule of law, no, outside of law enforcement simply refusing to follow him any longer.
As it stands now the only recourse is impeachment. Then again, as per the most recent ruling Trump could simply have Congress killed if they tried and then pardon the murderers. (DC is federal jurisdiction) That’s not a joke either.
Incorrect. The Cabinet can invoke the 25th amendment to remove a president.
Beyond that, Trump can't stop the investigation no matter how many people he pardons.
The most important part of it all is for us to understand how vulnerable we were to a propaganda campaign of unprecedented audacity & scope. It runs a lot deeper, I suspect, than most people imagine.
Let's face it- Trump as President never was a sane proposition. It's just not & never will be. Yet here we are.
Page testimony had tons of bombshells in it, and much news in other countries has come out relating to Papadopoulous. It's coming. I believe we'll likely hear more about Hope Hicks as well because both Page & Papa were communicating with her, which likely means that they were trying to communicate with the dotard. It's all going to come crashing down at some point.
I just read that the "professor" who was Papadapoulus' contact has "disappeared."
I figure Mueller & Co will sort out the sordid details, whatever they may be. There's a lot more to it, however. How in the world did conservatives' brains get softened enough to even imagine that Trump was capable of serving the people as our President? I mean, a person had to be at least temporarily incapacitated to pull that lever. How deep does it go? Have many Americans become thus incapacitated in a cultural sort of way? Will they always be this nutty or can they somehow overcome their affliction?
We can hope for protective custody... but not much I suppose.Three bullets in the back of head suicide is my guess. Or did he have a 5 story fall trying to move a hot tub?
I don't think it's just conservatism so much as that many people take a very superficial approach to elections. It's closer to a high school election than something with serious long-term implications.
Many treat it like a popularity contest: who has the best personality? Who told me the most things I want to hear? Who delivered the best zingers at the debate? Never mind the feasibility of what they're promising, or how it affects other people (except for many Trump supporters, who seem to like policies that spite others) -- just pick whoever has the best soundbites. Some even switch votes simply because they think it's time to change, never mind what they're changing to.
The one consolation is that the public does react when policies get bad enough... Trump's low approval rating and the Nov. 7th elections offer hope for 2018, at least so long as Republicans haven't rigged too many voting districts.
Why do you try to normalize Trumpism? His presidency rests on a mountain of nuttiness & lies induced by decades of relentless right wing agitprop. At this point the poor bastards are utterly defenseless because their heads don't really work right anymore. There is no other way that he possibly could have become President.
I'm not saying he's normal. Rather, he's exploiting a root-level lack of sincere interest in politics. In the past, it wasn't that damaging because you could at least assume they were experienced politicians with a baseline level of competence. Now, however, we're seeing just why that election-as-popularity-contest mindset is truly dangerous: when people elect someone who really doesn't know what he's doing and is openly spiteful, he gets a pass where a broadly informed electorate would never have let him reach office.
I figure Mueller & Co will sort out the sordid details, whatever they may be. There's a lot more to it, however. How in the world did conservatives' brains get softened enough to even imagine that Trump was capable of serving the people as our President? I mean, a person had to be at least temporarily incapacitated to pull that lever. How deep does it go? Have many Americans become thus incapacitated in a cultural sort of way? Will they always be this nutty or can they somehow overcome their affliction?
Just heard that, Jr is gonna need a pardon.Wikileaks was working with the Trump campaign, trying to help him get elected. Even asked if Trump could arrange for Assange to be Australia's ambassador to the US.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/
I think it was twelve, iirc.Remember those 15 or 30 (what was the number?) sealed indictments that were issued last week?
Man, the Trumps are sure going to have a nice warm welcome when they land on US soil this week. ....I wonder if some of them will kinda just choose to stay behind, for reasons?
I think it was twelve, iirc.