Indictments coming...

Page 87 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
Here's a good summary compiled recently on Trump-Russia

PART 1

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/941120497823215616

(THREAD) From Russian payments to Trump advisors to failing to register as foreign agents working for Putin allies—from perjury to illegal solicitation of campaign donations from the Kremlin—here's a non-exhaustive summary of known Trump-Russia ties.

PART 2

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/941376110381731841

(THREAD) It turns out 24 paragraphs detailing 24 discrete Trump-Russia ties isn't enough to encompass how entwined Trump is with Russia, so in this thread—Part 2 in the series—I offer 23 more connections.

Putting too much emphasis on proof of collusion just leaves room for denial as to what Putin's boys did to the minds of Americans. It was a brilliant & audacious tour de force in the art of propaganda. Trump is really secondary to that.

If Mueller's investigation fails to prove collusion then the whole thing may well go down the rabbit hole of denial. "No collusion? No problem!" Lacking the necessary epiphany, people who were victim to that propaganda effort will remain vulnerable to being hit on the blind side.
 

brandonbull

Diamond Member
May 3, 2005
6,338
1,215
126
How is the dossier fake if many of the facts of the dossier have been confirmed during this investigation?

Which facts? The ones confirming that Putin is the leader of Russia or the ones confirming that some Russians talked to other Russians? I'm sure the ones about pee pee is true.
 

brandonbull

Diamond Member
May 3, 2005
6,338
1,215
126
Putting too much emphasis on proof of collusion just leaves room for denial as to what Putin's boys did to the minds of Americans. It was a brilliant & audacious tour de force in the art of propaganda. Trump is really secondary to that.

If Mueller's investigation fails to prove collusion then the whole thing may well go down the rabbit hole of denial. "No collusion? No problem!" Lacking the necessary epiphany, people who were victim to that propaganda effort will remain vulnerable to being hit on the blind side.

Are we now down to Russia did stuff to influence the election without Trump colluding but Trump is guilty anyways?
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
23,999
13,522
136
Are we now down to Russia did stuff to influence the election without Trump colluding but Trump is guilty anyways?
Why is it Trump ignores all intelligence to the contrary.
Why is it Trump uses every possible oppertunity to suck putins dick.
Why is Trump dragging his feet on the new sanctions
Why is he eager to get the magnitsky sanctions cancelled
Why ....
Why ....
Why ....
Why ....
Why ....
All the data stack up against your boy, not ONE redeeming quality, - ivandull
 
Reactions: Younigue

skull

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2000
2,209
327
126
Here's a good summary compiled recently on Trump-Russia

PART 1

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/941120497823215616

(THREAD) From Russian payments to Trump advisors to failing to register as foreign agents working for Putin allies—from perjury to illegal solicitation of campaign donations from the Kremlin—here's a non-exhaustive summary of known Trump-Russia ties.

PART 2

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/941376110381731841

(THREAD) It turns out 24 paragraphs detailing 24 discrete Trump-Russia ties isn't enough to encompass how entwined Trump is with Russia, so in this thread—Part 2 in the series—I offer 23 more connections.

Do you know of anything like this with sources? My pops has been brainwashed by all the right wing propaganda. I'd like to give him a link to something like this but with sources so he doesn't argue its just some bullshit a liberal made up. I did a quick google search but nothing good is coming up.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,143
30,099
146
Do you know of anything like this with sources? My pops has been brainwashed by all the right wing propaganda. I'd like to give him a link to something like this but with sources so he doesn't argue its just some bullshit a liberal made up. I did a quick google search but nothing good is coming up.

it won't matter for Pops because:

--the sources are some elite liberal
--the sources are "anonymous!" lol Fake!

It truly doesn't matter for people that have been thoroughly convinced that facts and standards no longer have any value in this world. That is exactly what has happened, and this is exactly how despots operate when they need to get the sheep behind their noble cause.
 
Reactions: Younigue

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
32,558
15,444
136
Do you know of anything like this with sources? My pops has been brainwashed by all the right wing propaganda. I'd like to give him a link to something like this but with sources so he doesn't argue its just some bullshit a liberal made up. I did a quick google search but nothing good is coming up.

My quick search came up with this:

http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/11/27/16670950/trump-russia-timeline

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/31/537926933/2016-under-scrutiny-a-timeline-of-russia-connections

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38966119

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-timeline-election-meddling-2017-11
 

skull

Platinum Member
Jun 5, 2000
2,209
327
126
it won't matter for Pops because:

--the sources are some elite liberal
--the sources are "anonymous!" lol Fake!

It truly doesn't matter for people that have been thoroughly convinced that facts and standards no longer have any value in this world. That is exactly what has happened, and this is exactly how despots operate when they need to get the sheep behind their noble cause.

I already know its an up hill battle. We haven't argued too much about it until monday night when I went over for dinner. Just so happens less than 12 hours later trump disgraces America once again. My dad isn't like that at all and let him know it while asking him how he can still support someone like that. I'm hoping it won't take too much more convincing.

Its nuts the excuses and such he comes up with while he parrots the same stuff brandonbull and taj do. He kept flustering over my questions with the the but but but hillary's. I know deep down he knows better, hes just so blinded with the my team deal he can't see the forests through the trees.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
Are we now down to Russia did stuff to influence the election without Trump colluding but Trump is guilty anyways?

How does it feel to know that you, a red blooded patriotic American, are standing shoulder to shoulder with the Russians when it comes to Trump? Is it all warm & fuzzy w/o a scintilla of doubt? Is it some sort of hypnotic religious rapture? Would you have a sex change operation if it meant you could have his babies?

What sort of MAGA do you think the Russians have in mind? Will we be sick of winning?
 

Maxima1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2013
3,538
759
146
Do you know of anything like this with sources? My pops has been brainwashed by all the right wing propaganda. I'd like to give him a link to something like this but with sources so he doesn't argue its just some bullshit a liberal made up. I did a quick google search but nothing good is coming up.

Here's a link to all of the threads that person has made on Trump-Russia. Many of them have news article links because that's where the information is coming from.

https://chickenafraido.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/SeThreads.pdf

And here's a few bombshells I just saw right now on Seth's twitter:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...dec16379010_story.html?utm_term=.c1e4e3407601

BREAKING: Trump pal Emin Agalarov—who Trump was in contact with throughout the campaign—offered to set up a Trump-Putin meeting during the campaign. Six months ago, I said we had sufficient evidence to call Emin a Kremlin agent—now we can shut that case.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...utm_term=.9b23b3df84b5&wpisrc=nl_popup&wpmm=1

Deep in this bombshell Trump-Russia report: on January 6, Trump was shown "Putin’s specific instructions on the [election interference] operation." Legally, that makes his secret plan to unilaterally drop Russia sanctions a crime and an impeachable offense.

[Arguably really August 17, 2016, since that's when he got briefed on Russian interference]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-sought-emails-of-trump-campaign-data-firm-1513296899

Mueller Sought Emails of Trump Campaign Data Firm

 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
17,788
6,040
136
Trump had a phone call with Putin today, the press found out from Russia first, and then the WH admitted I don’t remember SHS saying anything about it in the press briefing.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,143
30,099
146
I already know its an up hill battle. We haven't argued too much about it until monday night when I went over for dinner. Just so happens less than 12 hours later trump disgraces America once again. My dad isn't like that at all and let him know it while asking him how he can still support someone like that. I'm hoping it won't take too much more convincing.

Its nuts the excuses and such he comes up with while he parrots the same stuff brandonbull and taj do. He kept flustering over my questions with the the but but but hillary's. I know deep down he knows better, hes just so blinded with the my team deal he can't see the forests through the trees.

Mom got in a heated argument with her brother the other day. It wasn't pretty, but they both felt shitty about it, which is a good thing. Uncle was and is always a good guy, but he's also the first to admit, as everyone around him knows (even his conservative buddies), that he's a goddamn idiot. Still, a good guy. His wife though...holy shit. Demon witch that even terrifies him.

Anyway, it's tough to overcome these things with people, especially with those you love that are close to you, when we live in interesting times. Because that's what this is. It's a mass human sickness and it sucks to all hell right now. I think it is why shitty zombie stories are so goddamn popular right now. Everyone is terrified by zombies, but only half of them know who the real zombies are. In the end, the zombies will figure this shit out.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,143
30,099
146
Trump had a phone call with Putin today, the press found out from Russia first, and then the WH admitted I don’t remember SHS saying anything about it in the press briefing.

"Vlad, I just hope you can put this pee tape behind you. I really do. It's a good tape, so I hope you can see yourself to put it behind you."
 

sactoking

Diamond Member
Sep 24, 2007
7,583
2,818
136
Isn't the alleged pee tape mischaracterized? Everyone acts like he allegedly had Russian prostitutes pee on him but I thought the dossier contended that he had Russian prostitutes pee on a bed that Obama once slept in.
 
Nov 25, 2013
32,083
11,718
136
Isn't the alleged pee tape mischaracterized? Everyone acts like he allegedly had Russian prostitutes pee on him but I thought the dossier contended that he had Russian prostitutes pee on a bed that Obama once slept in.

Given that Trump is something of a germophobe, that actually makes more sense.
 
Mar 11, 2004
23,280
5,722
146
Isn't the alleged pee tape mischaracterized? Everyone acts like he allegedly had Russian prostitutes pee on him but I thought the dossier contended that he had Russian prostitutes pee on a bed that Obama once slept in.

That would make more sense (and unfortunately shows that the state of modern journalism ran with the other version, which to be fair, most outlets felt that indicated it being fake so Buzzfeed fucking runs with it; and you could say that others were doing more of their due diligence, and eventually showed it had much stronger credibility, but it'd be nice if there was a concerted effort to get that detail corrected, if for no other reason than it helps turn it from a joke to highlighting Turmp's impetus). Which seems to be that he's so completely infatuated with Obama that he's blind to anything else. But then what do you expect from someone that subsists on Fox News spewing that rhetoric for years. Hell wasn't Turmp years late to the birther and many other things? I think what happened is that the people actually handling his businesses had to tell him he couldn't do various things he wanted (or were trying to explain why his casino in AC failed), and they had to explain to him about the Great Recession, and he, like too many other conservatives, put that on Obama, so he started eating up all of Fox's rhetoric, with occasional exposure to even more radical right wing media - which eventually led him to the likes of Roger Stone and Bannon. He became convinced that Obama setback the US, and so he really thinks that Obama was out sabotaging everything, so he genuinely believes that undoing Obama's stuff will get America back on track. Meanwhile he's too stupid to realize he's been gamed by the Russians and Republicans. But then anyone as willfully stupid as Turmp deserves the legacy he'll end up with. And hopefully it'll be a giant 24k gold albatross around Republican's necks which will drag them back into the sewers and cesspits they crawled out of.

Of course the irony is that Turmp is actually tying his legacy to Obama's, and that he could end up (I'd say very likely will end up) actually strengthening Obama's legacy. Basically, he's making himself second fiddle to Obama even in the best scenario for Turmp (like if somehow Turmp's legacy ends up rising from the dumpster fire it currently is, and doesn't turn into a massive wildfire), as everything Turmp will do is going to be related to Obama in some way. The only way that changes doesn't end up good for Turmp since it'll basically be that his corruption (potentially close to outright treasonous) overshadows it (like Nixon), or some other fiasco where he'll take the blame for, or something that overshadows him so strongly that he becomes a footnote of.
 

Maxima1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2013
3,538
759
146
That would make more sense (and unfortunately shows that the state of modern journalism ran with the other version, which to be fair, most outlets felt that indicated it being fake so Buzzfeed fucking runs with it; and you could say that others were doing more of their due diligence, and eventually showed it had much stronger credibility, but it'd be nice if there was a concerted effort to get that detail corrected, if for no other reason than it helps turn it from a joke to highlighting Turmp's impetus).

I don't believe the media ran with the "other" version. They have been hesitant to say anything about it other than it being "salacious". The golden showers bit with it being Trump getting peed on is just the viewers running with the story. The BBC reported much earlier in the year that the CIA said there are multiple tapes "of a sexual nature", but our media has been incredulous of that story.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427
 

Maxima1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2013
3,538
759
146
Just saw this:

"FBI Deputy Director McCabe sscheduled to testify Tuesday to House Intelligence -- but will he? "If McCabe is still there," says one panel Republican. And another, Gowdy, tells FoxNews he'd a"be a little bit surprised if he is still an employee of the FBI this time next week."

McCabe blew the whistle on the True Pundit hoax. Coincidence I think not.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |