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Amused

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It would be for illegal use of campaign funds. He can pay off all the porn chicks he wants with his own money.

Even with his own money, if that money is spent in the interest of the campaign, it MUST be declared.

This is why, either way, he was screwed once it was admitted they were paid during the campaign.
 
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jackstar7

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So what? Pence will leave him twisting in the wind... and pardon Trump to pacify the base, maybe Junior & Jared, too.
You seem to imagine that Pence is unscathed by all of what will unfold. I do not share that view.

I think he knew. I think McConnell knew. There's a good chance that Ryan knew.

When and exactly what needs to be fully investigated.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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So what? Pence will leave him twisting in the wind... and pardon Trump to pacify the base, maybe Junior & Jared, too.

I wonder about that. We think in terms of Trump and Manafor and Cohen and some others, but Flynn is already found guilty of criminality. Mueller isn't going to exclude anything but follow all strings until everyone who is dirty is called on it. I should not want to be Pence right now and perhaps pacifying the base isn't worth possible prison time if he acts in a way which is legal such as pardons but found to have a self serving and illegal basis for doing so.
 

Cr0nJ0b

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I tell you people, it's ALL ABOUT the taxes. ALL ABOUT.
THAT is where we find the smoking gun(s).
Forget Russia, focus on Taxes.
WHY does Trump refuse to release his tax returns?
THIS IS WHY.
What happened today to Cohan is why.
Birds of a feather flock together, is why.

TAXES! It's all about the taxes and Donal Trump knows that too well.
No doubt, Donald is shaking in his boots because THIS COUD BE HIM.
If Cohen can be found guilty on 8 counts of tax fraud, god only knows what they would find with Donald Trump.
And for Donald to watch Cohen "GO TO F**K-ING JAIL" is now Donald Trump's new OMG - WTF - HOLY SHET moment....

I would be very, very, very, very ... 10x10^1000...surprised if Mueller and team haven't been combing the DJT's tax filings in minute detail since the beginning. They can access them as part of the investigation. I'm not sure they even need to tell anyone that they are accessing them. They can likely silently get access and start sifting. It would then take teams of the "disgusting thugs" working for Mueller to follow all the money trails...and there would be a lot of them to follow. I can only imagine how many times he's broken the law as part of his general business dealings. People paid off to get permits. People paid off to get tenants "removed" from buildings...bribes? Not sure how all of that filters through a sub-billion dollar business...They need to bring in Matt Damon as..."The Accountant"

 

Starbuck1975

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Not sure if I like the idea of a President being out because of paying off a porn chick.

But yes Trump is a turd
He wouldn’t be out for paying off a porn chick. He would be out for breaking or directing others to break campaign finance laws. White collar criminals often impale themselves on the little things.
 
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He wouldn’t be out for paying off a porn chick. He would be out for breaking or directing others to break campaign finance laws. White collar criminals often impale themselves on the little things.

I know and I understand other Politicians have gotten into deep shit for similar stuff.
Just personal opinion, I don’t like the feel of this
 

Jhhnn

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You seem to imagine that Pence is unscathed by all of what will unfold. I do not share that view.

I think he knew. I think McConnell knew. There's a good chance that Ryan knew.

When and exactly what needs to be fully investigated.

I think Pence will manage to stay outside the blast radius. He wasn't part of the campaign until July 15, a month after the Trump tower meeting. He just campaigned on what he was given & has been a good little vice prez out stumping & performing ceremonial stuff. In the meetings, he just nods & sucks up as required, biding his time...

McConnell knew that a bunch of GOP candidates were riding Trump's coattails & didn't give a damn if Putin were helping them or not.
 

UNCjigga

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Umm, so Cohen's lawyer just hinted on Maddow that Cohen has knowledge that Trump knew of Russian hacking before it was public knowledge and is willing to testify to that effect.

Is this...is this Mueller's checkmate???
 
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Sunburn74

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He wouldn’t be out for paying off a porn chick. He would be out for breaking or directing others to break campaign finance laws. White collar criminals often impale themselves on the little things.
Lol no one cares that the president was banging porn chicks after his 3rd wife just gave birth to his 3rd son and lied repeated to the american public on camera about it for months.
They do care though that he paid the porn chick off and didn't report it. I'm so confused by american morals right now.
 

vi edit

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Umm, so Cohen's lawyer just hinted on Maddow that Cohen has knowledge that Trump knew of Russian hacking before it was public knowledge and is willing to testify to that effect.

Is this...is this Mueller's checkmate???

This whole thing feels like a game of pardon chicken.

Trump sees the threat and has to decide to let it ride and see if he survives. Or pardon Cohen, he goes away, and face the consequences of that.

Cohen has Trump by the balls right now.
 
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Jhhnn

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Lol no one cares that the president was banging porn chicks after his 3rd wife just gave birth to his 3rd son and lied repeated to the american public on camera about it for months.
They do care though that he paid the porn chick off and didn't report it. I'm so confused by american morals right now.

Like it or not, it's legal to catch & kill these stories using your own money or having a friend do it for you. It's also perfectly legal for Trump to lie about when he's not under oath. Hell- he lies about everything all the time anyway.

OTOH, Michael Cohen plead guilty to illegally using campaign funds for the purpose at Trump's direction. He will likely testify as to other illegal activities involving Trump, as well. The special counsel will correlate his testimony to events & other witnesses as they occurred & present it all in their report to Rosenstein which I'm sure he will pass on to Congress for the purpose of impeachment & removal from office.

If Putin really has anything on Trump he'll release it then, of course, because Trump will no longer be useful. I'm sure Vlad would get a big chuckle out of driving that arrogant buffoon's dick right into the dirt.
 

Jhhnn

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This whole thing feels like a game of pardon chicken.

Trump sees the threat and has to decide to let it ride and see if he survives. Or pardon Cohen, he goes away, and face the consequences of that.

Cohen has Trump by the balls right now.

A blanket pardon for Cohen would be suicide. Cohen would still rat his heart out to escape state charges, anyway.
 
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zinfamous

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I think Pence will manage to stay outside the blast radius. He wasn't part of the campaign until July 15, a month after the Trump tower meeting. He just campaigned on what he was given & has been a good little vice prez out stumping & performing ceremonial stuff. In the meetings, he just nods & sucks up as required, biding his time...

McConnell knew that a bunch of GOP candidates were riding Trump's coattails & didn't give a damn if Putin were helping them or not.

I like Pence as the last chip that falls, just hidden away there, all along. He was in the room with the Trump transition team when everyone was informed about Flynn (from the Obama transition team), well before the official account that "Flynn lied to glorious, saintly, wonderful Mike Pence."

Mike Pence was never "lied to" about anything regarding Flynn. It's a known, documented fact. It's in the fecking public record for the Trump campaign...before they started locking everything out. The timeline is clear. Yet, Flynn was ousted because he "lied to wonderful Mike Pence."

Pence is a dirty rat motherfucker, as you know that is merely a piece of it. The entire state of Indiana abhors that rat motherfucker.





And so, after the midterms flip the House to the Dems and a year's-long wrangling for Dem leadership (really need that "new blood"), and after impeachment and the criminal prosecution, which takes down Pence as well, say hello to your new POTUS, ~December 2019:






This country seriously needs an enema. That^ might be the only option.
 
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zinfamous

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Like it or not, it's legal to catch & kill these stories using your own money or having a friend do it for you. It's also perfectly legal for Trump to lie about when he's not under oath. Hell- he lies about everything all the time anyway.

OTOH, Michael Cohen plead guilty to illegally using campaign funds for the purpose at Trump's direction. He will likely testify as to other illegal activities involving Trump, as well. The special counsel will correlate his testimony to events & other witnesses as they occurred & present it all in their report to Rosenstein which I'm sure he will pass on to Congress for the purpose of impeachment & removal from office.

If Putin really has anything on Trump he'll release it then, of course, because Trump will no longer be useful. I'm sure Vlad would get a big chuckle out of driving that arrogant buffoon's dick right into the dirt.

The pee tapes! YEEEESSSSS!
 

Younigue

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Lol no one cares that the president was banging porn chicks after his 3rd wife just gave birth to his 3rd son and lied repeated to the american public on camera about it for months.
They do care though that he paid the porn chick off and didn't report it. I'm so confused by american morals right now.
It's not that no one cares that he is a scumbag cheater and liar in his personal life it should have been between just those involved. That's their marriage. Regarding it, Trump made that vow of fidelity to Melania alone.

It's not a question of American morals regarding the affair. Sure they're in question but not about this.

I personally don't care one bit about his affair or that Melania had just given birth to their son. It's no less than what I expect from Trump and obviously no less than what any woman who would marry him would expect.
 

BoomerD

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