Inel First 25nm SSD On March 28th!

supahnoobie

Member
Mar 4, 2011
31
0
0


"Apparently, things are going so well over at Intel that they are going to launch their 25nm MLC based 320 Series (Postville Refresh), ahead of schedule, on the 28th of March. Intel 320 series SSD is set to replace the current X25-V and X25-M series at the same price point targeting mainstream consumers, SMBs, data centres and embedded markets. Intel first revealed about the Intel 320 series earlier this month and now we are going to bring you the finalized specs and estimated retail pricing.

  • Up to 39,500 IOPS random 4 KB reads; up to 23,000 IOPS random 4 KB writes
  • Full Disk Encryption via AES 128 bit Encryption Technology
  • Enhanced power loss management
  • 1.2M hours MTBF
  • Intel® 25nm compute NAND
Available in 5 capacities; 40GB, 80GB, 120GB, 160GB, 300GB and 600GB, they are estimated to be priced at $109, $189, $239, $329, $569 and $1119 respectively."

 

Syne

Junior Member
Mar 13, 2011
10
0
0
Prices are a bit disappointing. I figured ~ $1.60 a gig would be standard for the G3s, but the 40GB 80GB and 120GB are no cheaper than the G2s.
 

snuuggles

Member
Nov 2, 2010
178
0
0
Available in 5 capacities; 40GB, 80GB, 120GB, 160GB, 300GB and 600GB, they are estimated to be priced at $109, $189, $239, $329, $569 and $1119 respectively."

Is there a particular reason that the price change from 80 to 120 is $50, and the change from 120 to 160 is $90? Is there some other difference besides the capacity? It just seems strange to have 40gig extra vary in cost by almost 80%
 

stargazr

Diamond Member
Jun 13, 2010
3,879
3,240
136
The price was supposed to come down with 25nm. I wonder if they use their own controller this time.
 

Concillian

Diamond Member
May 26, 2004
3,751
8
81
Prices are a bit disappointing. I figured ~ $1.60 a gig would be standard for the G3s, but the 40GB 80GB and 120GB are no cheaper than the G2s.

Err, list price on the x25-m 120GB is $275. This drops the list price around $35.

List price does not necessarily equal the prices you'll see at like newegg or whatever. Initially I'm sure these will be at list price, but a month or so down the road we'll start seeing them less than that.
 

Syne

Junior Member
Mar 13, 2011
10
0
0
Err, list price on the x25-m 120GB is $275. This drops the list price around $35.

List price does not necessarily equal the prices you'll see at like newegg or whatever. Initially I'm sure these will be at list price, but a month or so down the road we'll start seeing them less than that.

http://newsroom.intel.com/community...tate-drives-in-time-for-holiday-buying-season

The 120GB G2 was released at $249, the 80GB dropped to $199, and the 40GB dropped to $99. Compare that to the $239, $189, and $109 prices for their G3 replacements. Basically no cost savings despite the 25nm NAND used.
 

SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
14,377
19
81
This is a failure and does not bode well for the future of SSD technology. I guess I'll just get a cheap 40gb drive and wait it out until they can work the bugs out of the manufacturing.
 

wpcoe

Senior member
Nov 13, 2007
586
2
81
So, what's going to happen to the G2 prices? Will they hold status quo since the price the wholesalers paid didn't retroactively drop, or will the "inferior" G2 prices drop in deference to the "new & improved" G3's?

Has Intel stopped production of the G2's?
 

taltamir

Lifer
Mar 21, 2004
13,576
6
76
Is there a particular reason that the price change from 80 to 120 is $50, and the change from 120 to 160 is $90? Is there some other difference besides the capacity? It just seems strange to have 40gig extra vary in cost by almost 80%

The drive, internally, has what seem to be 10 "chips", however, those are actually vertically stacked multiple die in a single package. It is cheaper to stack more up to a certain point, then it gets much much more expensive.

That being said, this is intel we are talking about. Cost to manufacture has nothing to do with price for consumer. It is more expensive because their marketing projections show that the extra profits will outweigh the lost sales due to the cost increase and result in overall more profit.

The most laughable thing about this release is that intel is selling those new drives for the same exact price points. Those 25nm cost half as much to manufacture as the 34nm drives and don't provide any benefit to the consumer.

So, what's going to happen to the G2 prices?

they will be sold for the exact same price until there are no more of them.

The price was supposed to come down with 25nm. I wonder if they use their own controller this time.

marketing. Price HAS gone down... just a different kind of price. Price to manufacture with 25nm went down. The thing is, demand far outstrips supply. So they can charge whatever they want.
That being said, all this money pouring in might result in more manufacturing plants being built. I have to say I am disappointed at the high prices.
 
Last edited:

IntelUser2000

Elite Member
Oct 14, 2003
8,686
3,785
136
The drive, internally, has what seem to be 8 "chips", however, those are actually vertically stacked multiple die in a single package. It is cheaper to stack more up to a certain point, then it gets much much more expensive.

Intel drives have 10 channels, so they need to use 10-chip config.

marketing. Price HAS gone down... just a different kind of price. Price to manufacture with 25nm went down.

The pricing reduction was also minimal with the 25nm OCZ Vertex 2's. I'm thinking the ones supplying the chips didn't reduce the price.
 

taltamir

Lifer
Mar 21, 2004
13,576
6
76
Intel drives have 10 channels, so they need to use 10-chip config.
Yes, I don't know how I managed to say 8.

The pricing reduction was also minimal with the 25nm OCZ Vertex 2's. I'm thinking the ones supplying the chips didn't reduce the price.
That can explain the vertex, but the postville refresh is intel drive using intel chips and it is not going to be any cheaper. Intel is just cutting costs while keeping prices the same. Which makes sense, they will only cut prices when competition / market saturation forces them to do so.
 

Emulex

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2001
9,759
1
71
so these MSRP prices (before the X25-m G2) came to market are absurd?

Do you even remember pricing before the G2's came out? Perhaps a refresher course?

And let's refresh "ABOVE MSRP" reasoning of G2 as well.
 

IntelUser2000

Elite Member
Oct 14, 2003
8,686
3,785
136
That can explain the vertex, but the postville refresh is intel drive using intel chips and it is not going to be any cheaper. Intel is just cutting costs while keeping prices the same. Which makes sense, they will only cut prices when competition / market saturation forces them to do so.

Exactly. IMFT is Intel and Micron, and they supply the chips to OCZ and Intel at same prices or slightly lower prices compared to 34nm generation.

It's not about competition, because Sandforce took the performance market by storm.

What's the point of creating high end SSD drives when the flash drives determine the pricing anyway? Its not like faster firmware costs that much more or the NAND chips different.

Price got cut decently on the 160GB chips though. 300 and 600GB drives are also relatively inexpensive.
 
Last edited:

Burner27

Diamond Member
Jul 18, 2001
4,447
48
101
"Up to 39,500 IOPS random 4 KB reads; up to 23,000 IOPS random 4 KB writes"

What is with these numbers? They seem really low compared to the G2s..........
 

UltraWide

Senior member
May 13, 2000
793
0
76
I think these are the same as G2 with 25nm instead of 34nm chips. Same controller and everything.
 

taltamir

Lifer
Mar 21, 2004
13,576
6
76
Exactly. IMFT is Intel and Micron, and they supply the chips to OCZ and Intel at same prices or slightly lower prices compared to 34nm generation.

It's not about competition, because Sandforce took the performance market by storm.

What's the point of creating high end SSD drives when the flash drives determine the pricing anyway? Its not like faster firmware costs that much more or the NAND chips different.

Price got cut decently on the 160GB chips though. 300 and 600GB drives are also relatively inexpensive.

A top of the line SSD controller is 5$, the rest is NAND and profit.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |