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Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: mateo
seriously, I want some of whatever you're on.

The only thing that's going to alter your DNA is a massive radiation exposure, and you won't live long enough to discuss it much either.

Not true actually. Viruses replicate by "hijacking" the host cell and using its "machinery" to replicate the viral DNA. It many cases it does this until the host cell fills up with so many copies of the virus that it explodes like a balloon.

In some cases the virus literally inserts its own DNA into the host cell DNA and does not kill the cell. Link Then, everytime the cell replicates the viral DNA lives on. There is even research using these types of viruses to kill tumor cells link .

Basically, viruses do mess with your DNA and even have the potential to cause (and perhaps treat) cancer.

Oh, and I dont believe the OP. Stuff like this SHOULD be treated with antiobiotics quickly if true. I watched someone very young die recently from a resistant staph infection that started from a splinter.
That is not what I meant.

You are still you. Your DNA is still intact, you are not some weird mutant thing running loose.
 

911paramedic

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One word comes to mind: idiot.

Fever, hole oozing pus, 1/4 of your arm inflamed and hot, nausea,... Seriously, WTF are you thinking?!?

Either you are destined to die a slow painful death one of these days, or shens.
 

funboy6942

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May of been a black widow or one of it cousins. When I worked down there they had a black widow like spider but it wasnt black, a brown with some stripes but it had the hour glass on its abdomin. I took video of one of them when I opened the rr signal case to do some work on it and saw it. Asked one of the locals and they told me about it and said not to get bitten. Its sounds as though thats what may of bit yo. I would highly recommend seeing a doctor asap on this. They can tell right away looking at the bite if that is the cause of your sickness and if so what it was tat bit you and give you the proper care. Without it you can die from a black widow bite.

Brown Widow Spider is what it was

The southern black widow is involved in most poisonous spider-bite cases in Florida. The bite of the black widow is not always felt, but usually feels like a pin prick. The initial pain disappears rapidly leaving a local swelling where two tiny red spots appear. Muscular cramps in the shoulder, thigh, and back usually begin within 15 minutes to three hours. In severe cases, later pain spreads to the abdomen, the blood pressure rises, there is nausea and profuse sweating, and difficulty breathing. Death may result from the venom, depending on the victim's physical condition, age, and location of the bite. However, death seldom occurs if a physician is consulted and treatment is prompt.

Info on the Brown Widow Spider and pics of brown widow in captivity that turned black then laid eggs.
I never knew the spiders went from brown to black, that was a very interesting read.
 

Bryophyte

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If you're too stupid to go see a doctor when you're bedridden for a week because of a pus filled wound on your arm, you deserve what you get. In this case, you could've lost your arm or died.

Oh, wait, you're that kid that claims to be straight but masturbates furiously over some male actor, and brag about it on here, right? I think you're lying and just seeking attention.
 

mdbound

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Whenever someone suspects a spider bite, it's likely MRSA, methicillin resistant Staphylococcus aureus. The swelling, pus, and flu symptoms are classic. What is also classic is the OP's reluctance to go to the hospital or at the very least see a doctor. A lot of these MRSAs do heal up, but likely you are an MRSA carrier and this WILL come back. It's pretty hard to eradicate a carrier state, but simple measures help, such as making sure you keep any wounds clean, ensure that you don't have broken skin that serves as a portal of entry for the bugs, and keep any chronic medical conditions well controlled. Make sure you wipe down gym equipment before use and avoid exposure to locker room environments.

Next time, if you get anything that starts looking like a pimple or pustule, go to the ER. They should incise it, drain it, culture it, and then give you some antibiotics that would work against MRSA. Waiting too long can have devastating consequences given that the bug is very aggressive and can attack your heart valves, lungs, or bones with great affinity. Once it's there, its hard to get rid of and can destroy those areas which can be life-ending.

My medical recommendation....don't take this lightly.
My politico-scientific soapbox.....we need more research into newer antibiotics to fight resistant bugs as well as more education into effective infection control programs to stem the spread of resistance.

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My politico-scientific soapbox.....we need more research into newer antibiotics to fight resistant bugs as well as more education into effective infection control programs to stem the spread of resistance.

You mean responsible, educated, and appropriate prescribing of antibiotics? (Especially the latest and greatest new antibiotics with very little resistance yet...) We can dream... :roll:

I remember the good ol' days when VRE was rare and MRSA was still scary (way back 2 years ago...). Now see VRE on a monthly basis and MRSA barely grabs anyones attention...

 

mdbound

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Originally posted by: mateo
My politico-scientific soapbox.....we need more research into newer antibiotics to fight resistant bugs as well as more education into effective infection control programs to stem the spread of resistance.

You mean responsible, educated, and appropriate prescribing of antibiotics? (Especially the latest and greatest new antibiotics with very little resistance yet...) We can dream... :roll:

I remember the good ol' days when VRE was rare and MRSA was still scary (way back 2 years ago...). Now see VRE on a monthly basis and MRSA barely grabs anyones attention...


Agreed....I do remember those days. Really not too long ago.

MD.
 

Jejunum

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Originally posted by: mateo
My politico-scientific soapbox.....we need more research into newer antibiotics to fight resistant bugs as well as more education into effective infection control programs to stem the spread of resistance.

You mean responsible, educated, and appropriate prescribing of antibiotics? (Especially the latest and greatest new antibiotics with very little resistance yet...) We can dream... :roll:

I remember the good ol' days when VRE was rare and MRSA was still scary (way back 2 years ago...). Now see VRE on a monthly basis and MRSA barely grabs anyones attention...


wow really! You a doctor by chance? I just finished antibiotics in pharm. What is the standard treatment for MRSA now? (I am curious, and this isnt something that was really covered). It looks like you can give Rifampin, but I was rather confused.

Thanks!
 

Childs

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: Azraele
Based on the symtpoms you described, I would've sought medical treatment. Those are serious symptoms, and not something I would've played with at all.




everyone says that, but why?! What did people do 150 years ago, before hospitals? Die?

hahaha...I know how you feel but seriously, life expectancy was like 30 years at most back then.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: Azraele
Based on the symtpoms you described, I would've sought medical treatment. Those are serious symptoms, and not something I would've played with at all.

everyone says that, but why?! What did people do 150 years ago, before hospitals? Die?

hahaha...I know how you feel but seriously, life expectancy was like 30 years at most back then.

well, back then, mrsa wasn't really around until about 30 or so years ago...

mrsa stands for methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus, which means that this kind of staph has developed a resistance to penicillin antibiotics over the years. back before hospitals, we never had antibiotics.
 

Gibsons

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Assuming it is a Staph infection, is there really any reason to assume anything about its antibiotic resistance? According to the op it's a community acquired infection rather than hospital acquired.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: Azraele
Based on the symtpoms you described, I would've sought medical treatment. Those are serious symptoms, and not something I would've played with at all.




everyone says that, but why?! What did people do 150 years ago, before hospitals? Die?


150 years?

:Q

First known hospital was built in the 4th century B.C.

I think you need to get with the times.
 

sierrita

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Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: Azraele
Based on the symtpoms you described, I would've sought medical treatment. Those are serious symptoms, and not something I would've played with at all.




everyone says that, but why?! What did people do 150 years ago, before hospitals? Die?

hahaha...I know how you feel but seriously, life expectancy was like 30 years at most back then.



More like 40, but people too stupid to get medical attention always die earlier.


But it's not even "at most"...these are averages. Many people in the past lived to be quite old even by today's standards. The "average" age of death is skewed by the large number who died in infancy.
 

CasioTech

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Originally posted by: GZeus
Lets just say it was on another part of your body..... say, on your 'privates' :shocked:..... would you see a doctor then??

If you would see a doctor in that case, you should see a doctor in this case. I'm not saying that these parts have the same value (not even close, imo), but that where it is shouldn't matter as much as what it is. If you don't know what it is, see a doctor

Glad to hear you are getting better though. But you can forget coming over for dinner!




coming over for dinner?! WTF?

 

CasioTech

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
One word comes to mind: idiot.

Fever, hole oozing pus, 1/4 of your arm inflamed and hot, nausea,... Seriously, WTF are you thinking?!?

Either you are destined to die a slow painful death one of these days, or shens.




honestly, I didn't feel that bad... I ate all the time. Slept, felt better than a common cold. And squeezing it out was kinda fun.

 

CasioTech

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Originally posted by: funboy42
May of been a black widow or one of it cousins. When I worked down there they had a black widow like spider but it wasnt black, a brown with some stripes but it had the hour glass on its abdomin. I took video of one of them when I opened the rr signal case to do some work on it and saw it. Asked one of the locals and they told me about it and said not to get bitten. Its sounds as though thats what may of bit yo. I would highly recommend seeing a doctor asap on this. They can tell right away looking at the bite if that is the cause of your sickness and if so what it was tat bit you and give you the proper care. Without it you can die from a black widow bite.

Brown Widow Spider is what it was

The southern black widow is involved in most poisonous spider-bite cases in Florida. The bite of the black widow is not always felt, but usually feels like a pin prick. The initial pain disappears rapidly leaving a local swelling where two tiny red spots appear. Muscular cramps in the shoulder, thigh, and back usually begin within 15 minutes to three hours. In severe cases, later pain spreads to the abdomen, the blood pressure rises, there is nausea and profuse sweating, and difficulty breathing. Death may result from the venom, depending on the victim's physical condition, age, and location of the bite. However, death seldom occurs if a physician is consulted and treatment is prompt.

Info on the Brown Widow Spider and pics of brown widow in captivity that turned black then laid eggs.
I never knew the spiders went from brown to black, that was a very interesting read.




I didn't see two bite marks. It was a whitehead that hurt when I popped it.

 

CasioTech

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
If you're too stupid to go see a doctor when you're bedridden for a week because of a pus filled wound on your arm, you deserve what you get. In this case, you could've lost your arm or died.

Oh, wait, you're that kid that claims to be straight but masturbates furiously over some male actor, and brag about it on here, right? I think you're lying and just seeking attention.




I have a g/f, projecting your gay TW fantasies on me, you dumb fvck?

 

CasioTech

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Whatever it is, I hope it's fatal.

- M4H




I would take the greatest pleasure in torturing you to death, should we ever meet.

 

CasioTech

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Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: Azraele
Based on the symtpoms you described, I would've sought medical treatment. Those are serious symptoms, and not something I would've played with at all.




everyone says that, but why?! What did people do 150 years ago, before hospitals? Die?

hahaha...I know how you feel but seriously, life expectancy was like 30 years at most back then.



More like 40, but people too stupid to get medical attention always die earlier.


But it's not even "at most"...these are averages. Many people in the past lived to be quite old even by today's standards. The "average" age of death is skewed by the large number who died in infancy.





I heard about that.

 
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