Inferno by Dan Brown

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Yamada

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No and no.

Aside from Mr. Brown's "writing" ability, which in and of itself is enough to disqualify this book from reading consideration, you have the wonderful tale behind the TDC to dissuade you.

More palatable, OK. I'm sure a gothic novel is supposed to be more palatable than a "History" book...

I'm quite aware of the classification of TDC and it's purpose. You fail to understand my complaint.

Yeah, you don't like to read.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Speaking of Inferno, a couple months ago The Da Vinci Code ebook was being given away free to promote Inferno. I got around to reading it, and it was more enjoyable than I was expecting. I'll probably look into Angels and Demons now, when I wouldn't have if it weren't for the promotion.
 

BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
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Boy, you got that right.

I understand your complaint, you were referencing the fact that the author was sued because he plagiarized ideas in Divinci Code. The suer didn't win because their story was deemed to not be their own, as it was based on stories and tales that have been told throughout history. You came in here and acted superior by sarcastically telling everyone that you read fake historical accounts that are plagiarized, meaning you would never read such inferior tripe. And since the books were deemed not to be plagiarized it would mean that all you are complaining about is that a book of fiction is fictional.

Everyone knows this.
 
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my real motivation for buying it is so that I can feel good about myself for using the Nook that I purchased and read 1 single book on.
 

SphinxnihpS

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I understand your complaint, you were referencing the fact that the author was sued because he plagiarized ideas in Divinci Code. The suer didn't win because their story was deemed to not be their own, as it was based on stories and tales that have been told throughout history. You came in here and acted superior by sarcastically telling everyone that you read fake historical accounts that are plagiarized, meaning you would never read such inferior tripe. And since the books were deemed not to be plagiarized it would mean that all you are complaining about is that a book of fiction is fictional.

Everyone knows this.


First of all, he did plagiarize all the ideas for his book from the book Holy Blood, holy Grail. Not a single one was his idea; they were all 100% stolen. HBHG was a non-fiction account of the Templar knights in France and their "mission", the families involved, and of course the idea that J and MM got busy and had a family prior to the whole debacle with the Pharisees, and that it is this lineage that leads to the "last scion" i.e. the Holy Grail. This is not a repackaging of ideas from "Throughout History", because there is no such history. It's the same reason that the publishers of HBHG lost the suit.

How's that you say? Well the ideas for the book HBHG came from another book called, L'or de Rennes, ou La Vie insolite de Berenger Sauniere, cure de Rennes-le-Chateau, by Gerard de Sede and Pierre Plantard. The entire reason for the publication of L'or de Rennes was to give publicity to an ancient manuscript that was discovered by the authors at the National Library of France. The ancient manuscript... a forgery, a plant at the National Library by none other than the authors of L'Or de Rennes.

Well the authors of HBHG were duped. They thought the ancient manuscript, Dossiers Secrets d'Henri Lobineau (which puts forth all of the ideas enumerated in TDC and HBHG) was genuine. Brown only prevailed at trial because everything he stole was fake. Had HBHG been of a genuine origin, he would have lost all rights to his book and would have had to pay all proceeds plus damages to the plaintiffs. in other words, he got lucky.

So not only is he a complete hack writer (his writing ability has has been thoroughly trashed by every serious literary critic that bothered with his utter shit books) in his own mind he is a thief. Why would I or anyone else ever want to read a book or give money to a criminal who can't write well enough to get a job as a reporter for Streetwise?

Condescension is not sarcasm.
 
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SolMiester

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First of all, he did plagiarize all the ideas for his book from the book Holy Blood, holy Grail. Not a single one was his idea; they were all 100% stolen. HBHG was a non-fiction account of the Templar knights in France and their "mission", the families involved, and of course the idea that J and MM got busy and had a family prior to the whole debacle with the Pharisees, and that it is this lineage that leads to the "last scion" i.e. the Holy Grail. This is not a repackaging of ideas from "Throughout History", because there is no such history. It's the same reason that the publishers of HBHG lost the suit.

How's that you say? Well the ideas for the book HBHG came from another book called, L'or de Rennes, ou La Vie insolite de Berenger Sauniere, cure de Rennes-le-Chateau, by Gerard de Sede and Pierre Plantard. The entire reason for the publication of L'or de Rennes was to give publicity to an ancient manuscript that was discovered by the authors at the National Library of France. The ancient manuscript... a forgery, a plant at the National Library by none other than the authors of L'Or de Rennes.

Well the authors of HBHG were duped. They thought the ancient manuscript, Dossiers Secrets d'Henri Lobineau (which puts forth all of the ideas enumerated in TDC and HBHG) was genuine. Brown only prevailed at trial because everything he stole was fake. Had HBHG been of a genuine origin, he would have lost all rights to his book and would have had to pay all proceeds plus damages to the plaintiffs. in other words, he got lucky.

So not only is he a complete hack writer (his writing ability has has been thoroughly trashed by every serious literary critic that bothered with his utter shit books) in his own mind he is a thief. Why would I or anyone else ever want to read a book or give money to a criminal who can't write well enough to get a job as a reporter for Streetwise?

Condescension is not sarcasm.

So, what books have you written that you feel are better than his?
 

SphinxnihpS

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So, what books have you written that you feel are better than his?

I am not qualified to judge books if I have never written one? I guess none of the other points I made matter either?

Let me put it this way as well. If DB were William Shakespeare, and all his books were intellectual orgasms, I still wouldn't read any of them on general principle. The fact that they are intellectual erectile dysfunction just makes the decision that much easier.
 
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IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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I only read The Divinci Code. Do his other books read like overly long Scooby Doo scripts?
 

SphinxnihpS

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You can judge them, but you better remember that your opinion about them isn't necessarily any more valid than anyone else's.

Half of my reasoning has nothing to do with the subjective, but bad writing is also not purely subjective.
 

SolMiester

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Dec 19, 2004
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I am not qualified to judge books if I have never written one? I guess none of the other points I made matter either?

Let me put it this way as well. If DB were William Shakespeare, and all his books were intellectual orgasms, I still wouldn't read any of them on general principle. The fact that they are intellectual erectile dysfunction just makes the decision that much easier.

I just think DB's books are well written and entertaining with enough info to interest the reader. You are just flat out trashing them, I thought you must be some great writer yourself...
 

BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
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First of all, he did plagiarize all the ideas for his book from the book Holy Blood, holy Grail. Not a single one was his idea; they were all 100% stolen. HBHG was a non-fiction account of the Templar knights in France and their "mission", the families involved, and of course the idea that J and MM got busy and had a family prior to the whole debacle with the Pharisees, and that it is this lineage that leads to the "last scion" i.e. the Holy Grail. This is not a repackaging of ideas from "Throughout History", because there is no such history. It's the same reason that the publishers of HBHG lost the suit.

How's that you say? Well the ideas for the book HBHG came from another book called, L'or de Rennes, ou La Vie insolite de Berenger Sauniere, cure de Rennes-le-Chateau, by Gerard de Sede and Pierre Plantard. The entire reason for the publication of L'or de Rennes was to give publicity to an ancient manuscript that was discovered by the authors at the National Library of France. The ancient manuscript... a forgery, a plant at the National Library by none other than the authors of L'Or de Rennes.

Well the authors of HBHG were duped. They thought the ancient manuscript, Dossiers Secrets d'Henri Lobineau (which puts forth all of the ideas enumerated in TDC and HBHG) was genuine. Brown only prevailed at trial because everything he stole was fake. Had HBHG been of a genuine origin, he would have lost all rights to his book and would have had to pay all proceeds plus damages to the plaintiffs. in other words, he got lucky.

So not only is he a complete hack writer (his writing ability has has been thoroughly trashed by every serious literary critic that bothered with his utter shit books) in his own mind he is a thief. Why would I or anyone else ever want to read a book or give money to a criminal who can't write well enough to get a job as a reporter for Streetwise?

Condescension is not sarcasm.

So what you are saying is that his fiction is fiction based on fiction. Cool story.

Yeah he's not a great writer by any stretch but people are stupid and easily amused. I'd rather them read dan brown than watch honey boo boo. Psuedointellectualism may some day be replaced by real intellectuals but until that day you just have to appreciate baby steps.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Feb 17, 2005
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So what you are saying is that his fiction is fiction based on fiction. Cool story.

Yeah he's not a great writer by any stretch but people are stupid and easily amused. I'd rather them read dan brown than watch honey boo boo. Psuedointellectualism may some day be replaced by real intellectuals but until that day you just have to appreciate baby steps.

Yeah, actually the story behind the story is a cool story, thanks...

Admittedly my attitude sucks sometimes.
 

phucheneh

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So, what books have you written that you feel are better than his?

Ah, the argument of the moron.

Also, how appropriate is it that this thread is headlined by a Dan Brown fan that (surprise) posts a 16MP image of a book cover...
 

SKORPI0

Lifer
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Also, how appropriate is it that this thread is headlined by a Dan Brown fan that (surprise) posts a 16MP image of a book cover...
Not sure how that happened when I uploaded it to Imageshack. Original file is 2.43mb jpg. My apologies. Photo updated.
 
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