Insane parents are upset CO school won't recognize their boy as a girl

Genx87

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brandonb

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The first comment on CNN about the article actually sums up my thoughts pretty damn well.
 

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/27/us/colorado-transgender-girl-school/index.html#comment-814501962

I'm all about equal access, but this isn't a tranny. This is a boy who's parents are allowing him to believe he's a girl, to the point he wants to use the girls' restroom.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but how is this not child abuse?

Have penis no girls bathroom, thats how it works.

I am all for the rights of the child but im also for the rights of the other kids and parents.
 

BoberFett

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Transgender children experience a disconnect between their sex, which is anatomy, and their gender, which includes behaviors, roles and activities, experts say.

Haven't feminists been fighting gender roles for decades? Now we're being told that being a girl DOES in fact mean different behaviors, roles and activities? The same type of people who have been raging against classification are now arguing for classification. "Liberals" are fucking nuts.
 
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child of wonder

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Unbelievable.

How the fucking fuck can a 1st grader be labelled as "transgender?" Fucking insane. HIS parents should be explaining to HIM that once HE is an adult HE can identify with whatever gender HE wants.

Stupid, enabling parents are stupid.
 

brandonb

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its always changing.. what was the comment?

Here it is, sorry about that, I thought it sorted the same for everybody.

Christopher Jones•11 hours ago






Everyone has the right to their own opinion... but not to their own reality.
I may be 100% convinced that I am a world famous astronaut. I may be absolutely sure of it, but it doesn't mean that NASA has to give me a ride to the space station.
My opinion does not change the fact that I am not an astronaut. Being an astronaut is not subjective.
 

utahraptor

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I don't see the harm either. I want to know who pulled down the kids pants before banning him from the bathroom.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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Do not see the harm.

Can someone explain it?

Do you believe that boys and girls should use the same bathroom?

The harm is that it may cause confusion or concern when a girl in the bathroom sees this girls penis. Do you have kids? It is hard enough explaining the difference to them without trying to explain to a 7 year old that Timmy really feels like a girl on the inside.

He is, by far, an exception to the rule and not the norm. He has been offered multiple private bathrooms as well as the boys restroom. He has a fucking penis. If he died naked and was discovered by someone a year from now they would declare it was a boy.

He is male. Let him live in his own fantasy but quit trying to get the rules changed for you because you're special. You're not, and I don't want to try to explain why some girl has a dick to my 7 year old daughter.
 

utahraptor

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I think our society could avoid a large amount of drama and grief by dropping the gender rolls.
 

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I think our society could avoid a large amount of drama and grief by dropping the gender rolls.

Genders rolls exist because there are differences in genders. Every society has a division between genders. They will never be gone because they are different. This isn't to say that we shouldn't accept certain things (e.g. a man can be a great nurse, or a woman can be an awesome athlete) and we have made strides...but when it comes down to it, genders are different.
 

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You don't see the harm in raising a young boy to believe he's a girl?

Do you believe that boys and girls should use the same bathroom?

The harm is that it may cause confusion or concern when a girl in the bathroom sees this girls penis. Do you have kids? It is hard enough explaining the difference to them without trying to explain to a 7 year old that Timmy really feels like a girl on the inside.

He is, by far, an exception to the rule and not the norm. He has been offered multiple private bathrooms as well as the boys restroom. He has a fucking penis. If he died naked and was discovered by someone a year from now they would declare it was a boy.

He is male. Let him live in his own fantasy but quit trying to get the rules changed for you because you're special. You're not, and I don't want to try to explain why some girl has a dick to my 7 year old daughter.

I simply do not see the harm in either how someone chooses their identity nor even in bathroom use. I mean girls bathrooms are all stalls. Why would anyone see this kid's genitals except in some sort of prank/bullying circumstance? If the parents are teaching the kid a reasonable level of self-awareness I don't think the penis is going to be a factor.

I do not have my own children, but I've been directly involved in raising several kids. I've never had issues explaining complex issues to them if they are interested in understanding.

This thread seems like a lot of panic over really nothing more than a conversation with kids to explain something that is outside the norm, but also not harmful to anyone.

Why is this kid's freedom to choose an identity a threat to anyone?
 

jackstar7

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Genders rolls exist because there are differences in genders. Every society has a division between genders. They will never be gone because they are different. This isn't to say that we shouldn't accept certain things (e.g. a man can be a great nurse, or a woman can be an awesome athlete) and we have made strides...but when it comes down to it, genders are different.

And some males and females exhibit the behaviors of the opposite gender and hurt no one in doing so. They are rare and harmless.

Or can you explain the harm?
 

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It is a tricky situation, I'm not sure what I would do if I was a school administrator. I think I would talk to the parents concerned about it and try and just let things be. In grade one I doubt the little boy-girl is going to be doing anything inappropriate in the girls bathroom.

I really have to wonder if children that come out this way are a direct result of their parental influences. Maybe the parents are giving this kid a confusing message about gender and the kid just doesn't know what he is.
 

jackstar7

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I really have to wonder if children that come out this way are a direct result of their parental influences. Maybe the parents are giving this kid a confusing message about gender and the kid just doesn't know what he is.

Just seems unlikely given that this kid is one of triplets.
 

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I simply do not see the harm in either how someone chooses their identity nor even in bathroom use. I mean girls bathrooms are all stalls. Why would anyone see this kid's genitals except in some sort of prank/bullying circumstance?

You dont have a daughter do you?
 

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Haven't feminists been fighting gender roles for decades? Now we're being told that being a girl DOES in fact mean different behaviors, roles and activities? The same type of people who have been raging against classification are now arguing for classification. "Liberals" are fucking nuts.

Awe... you almost made it through an entire post without blaming "liberals". You really need to invest in a mirror with your next UI check. The one responsible for your woes will be staring you right in the eyes.
 
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You don't see the harm in raising a young boy to believe he's a girl?

You are assuming there is no licensed medical professional involved in the child's life. Gender dysphoria is a clinical diagnosis. A parent has two choices if such a diagnosis is made. Force their child to be their natural born gender and create an extremely fucked up human being or allow them to live the life of the gender they identify as and have an ostrichized but less fucked up in the long run human being.
 
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