Insane parents are upset CO school won't recognize their boy as a girl

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Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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I dont give a fuck the little freak needs to be removed and home schooled and the fucktard parents investigated for child abuse.

You claim the kid is being abused yet you call him a "little freak"? WTF is wrong with you, its a 6 year old child. What kind of decent man, hell what kind of man at all, talks like that about a 6 year old child?
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Hell, I knew kids in high school that would have dressed up as girls just to be able to use the girls bathrooms. What happens when the kid gets older and has to start changing for gym or playing sports. Are the parents going to sue because he isn't allowed to put his jockstrap on in the girls locker room? What happens if during puberty he likes girls and starts popping wood every time they change? The last one could be just as bad for the kid if he likes boys and the same thing happens in the boys locker room but at least he wouldn't be exposing himself to the opposite sex on a daily basis.

The bottom line is that "special needs" does not mean you get anything and everything you want, when you want it, and how you want it. The parents can either learn to compromise or they will do a TON of harm to the poor kid who appears to already have a tough childhood in front of him.


lol the first thought i had was useing this as a excuse to change in the girls locker room.

yeah..im a perv.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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I simply do not see the harm in either how someone chooses their identity nor even in bathroom use. I mean girls bathrooms are all stalls. Why would anyone see this kid's genitals except in some sort of prank/bullying circumstance? If the parents are teaching the kid a reasonable level of self-awareness I don't think the penis is going to be a factor.

I do not have my own children, but I've been directly involved in raising several kids. I've never had issues explaining complex issues to them if they are interested in understanding.

This thread seems like a lot of panic over really nothing more than a conversation with kids to explain something that is outside the norm, but also not harmful to anyone.

Why is this kid's freedom to choose an identity a threat to anyone?

How does the kid using a gender neutral bathroom harm him? Hell they even offered to let him use the nurses bathroom which has got to be cleaner than the normal ones and personally I like some privacy when I am dropping a deuce. I would have loved to have been able to use a private bathroom in school.

What about when the kid gets older and has to change in the locker room along with the rest of class for gym or sports? What about showers? How are you going to explain to him that he can use the girls bathroom but has to change and shower in the boys locker room or how do you explain to the girls that they must change and shower with a male?

Perhaps it "shouldn't" affect other children today but in a short while it will. The school is making the right choice for not only themselves but for the child.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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If feminists want to fight gender roles, let them get jobs in logging, mining, welding, construction,,,, you know,,, jobs where people get killed on a semi-regular basis.

As long as its men getting killed, so what.

If women were getting killed on jobs at the same rate as men, there would be a national outcry.

Wanna see 99% of feminists be "cured" of feminism?

Put 50 of them and 50 men on a boat with life rafts to hold 75. Start sinking said boat. Bet a weeks pay that the vast majority of them find a new found belief in the old "women and children first" thing.
 

cubby1223

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Okay, I'll be perfectly blunt here on my prediction of the future:

(1) Kid's liberal open-minded parents allow him to believe he is a girl
(2) Classmates both male and female taunt and ridicule him all throughout school
(3) Kid's liberal open-minded parents sue the school for allowing the bullying
(4) Classmates continue to taunt and ridicule him
(5) Kid will have a very difficult time building friendships
(6) Kid grows up and one day revisits the school with guns in hand
(7) Liberal open-minded parents blame the NRA for the tragedy

Parents need to be parents.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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I am not getting the impression that the parents are forcing this kid in any given direction, just encouraging the kid to explore an identity.

From this thread though it seems like a lot of people want to parent other people's kids, and the majority seem to be people who claim to value liberty.

I haven't seen anyone insinuate that the parents should be forced to raise the child any differently than they are and if there are some that I missed I would completely disagree with it. However, the actual topic of which bathroom he uses while in a public school has nothing to do with parenting and effects other children.
 

waggy

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Okay, I'll be perfectly blunt here on my prediction of the future:

(1) Kid's liberal open-minded parents allow him to believe he is a girl
(2) Classmates both male and female taunt and ridicule him all throughout school
(3) Kid's liberal open-minded parents sue the school for allowing the bullying
(4) Classmates continue to taunt and ridicule him
(5) Kid will have a very difficult time building friendships
(6) Kid grows up and one day revisits the school with guns in hand
(7) Liberal open-minded parents blame the NRA for the tragedy

Parents need to be parents.

:hmm: its a diabolical plan by the parents.
 

Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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Please. Feel free to elaborate on why I'd have objections.

I do not believe I should make your arguments for you.

Since you seem to be so bold, can you answer my question:

What harm does it do to the child to use gender neutral bathrooms as the school has offered as a compromise?

Furthermore, what about when he is older and they use locker rooms where students change clothes and shower?
 

ShawnD1

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Furthermore, what about when he is older and they use locker rooms where students change clothes and shower?

The girls will verbally destroy him.
"Why are you such a freak? You should just kill yourself already."

Then he does it and the parents sue.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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it seems the school is offering a solution. the nurse's bathroom or gender neutral one. IF they have a problem with that they are fucking nuts.

it blows my mind this is really a issue.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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I just realized the transexual issue will not be resolved any time soon. It took a hundred years to iron out civil rights, abortion is still not officially resolved, gays in the military took a long time.
 

nehalem256

Lifer
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nehalem256

Lifer
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Since you seem to be so bold, can you answer my question:

What harm does it do to the child to use gender neutral bathrooms as the school has offered as a compromise?

Furthermore, what about when he is older and they use locker rooms where students change clothes and shower?

It doesn't harm the child, but it does harm the LGBT agenda. Of course why gay people would want to identify with mentally people that want to cut off their body parts seems a bit odd to me.
 

nehalem256

Lifer
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Haven't feminists been fighting gender roles for decades? Now we're being told that being a girl DOES in fact mean different behaviors, roles and activities? The same type of people who have been raging against classification are now arguing for classification. "Liberals" are fucking nuts.

Ironically if your gender is defined based on what "gender roles" you embrace I think that means that a lot of feminist "women" should really be identifying as men :sneaky:
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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How does the kid using a gender neutral bathroom harm him? Hell they even offered to let him use the nurses bathroom which has got to be cleaner than the normal ones and personally I like some privacy when I am dropping a deuce. I would have loved to have been able to use a private bathroom in school.

What about when the kid gets older and has to change in the locker room along with the rest of class for gym or sports? What about showers? How are you going to explain to him that he can use the girls bathroom but has to change and shower in the boys locker room or how do you explain to the girls that they must change and shower with a male?

Perhaps it "shouldn't" affect other children today but in a short while it will. The school is making the right choice for not only themselves but for the child.

It's a tough needle to thread, clearly. But the objections here seem to be more about how the kid should be "straightened out" and the parents are somehow abusing a kid by letting it explore its own identity.

I think the downside of a basically private bathroom are that it's just more ostracizing when that's what the parents are trying to minimize. Really, I applaud them if they're allowing the other kids to help socialize the kid into an identity because parents can make rules and try to create structure, but the practicality of other children either accepting or rejecting the behavior is going to go a lot further to shaping the kid's development. If kids all reject it, then the kid will adjust in order to socialize.

I'm just wary of parents trying to force the kid into a role or roles that she doesn't understand the reasoning behind. The classmates, I think, will do a better job of either respecting or rejecting the kid and then parents can be supportive along the way without having to force anything that would only build a solid foundation for resentment in the kid.

I could certainly be wrong about all of this... but the level of panic and outrage in this thread is really off-putting, and I would feel a lot better if some of it was thought through and articulated.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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come back when you get some life experience behind you.

So yeah... I think you should come back when you can articulate your argument.

You know this issue isn't about me, right? I have no influence over the kid or his parents. I am just trying to understand your reaction to this situation that affects you not at all...
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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at 6 it won't matter. when the kid gets older it is.

no way in hell should he be allowed to use the girls bathroom at 10+. what then?

should the girls be forced to use the bathroom and change in front of him? do they nto matter or is just the boy that does?
 
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