Installing XP on an HP DV6605us

Aeridyne

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Ok, so I have just bought an HP DV6605us and it comes with Vista Home Premium installed on it I would like to dual boot with xp. I have already split my partitions and got XP installed just fine and fixed the bootloader to be able to choose between them and each boots just fine, that part I figured out myself no problem. But that's not the hard part.

The hard part is getting all of my hardware installed. Pretty much the only things that XP recognized and loaded drivers for was the base hardware; the CPU, root usb hub, a few other basic components. However my video, wireless, NIC, chipset, and about 6 other devices are unrecognized. I need drivers, but on HP's website there are no drivers for that model for XP.... What can i do? Can anyone find all the drivers that I need?

I plan on taking a screen shot of my device manager in vista and one in xp to compare what is recognized, but it won't help much if there are no drivers out there.

Any help getting these drivers is much appreciated, thanks in advance for anyone's help.
 

Aeridyne

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Ok, I can see that i need to post the specs and as much hardware info as i can. I will do that when I get out of work. I have screen shots from device manager and I went to HP's website to look at the original system configuration info, unfortunately that info is pretty generic.
 

Aeridyne

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I saw a guy on Yahoo Answers who had all the drivers except the audio for the DV6605us. Wonder where he got them all?
 

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I successfully removed Vista from a new HP Pavilion a1520n and got it completely working with XP. Some of what I found may be unique to HP's specific setup, but what I learned may give others some clues about what to check to install XP on similar systems. Others are welcome to add their tips and experiences.

HP and Compaq no longer provide restore disks. Instead, their systems will create ONE set of DVD's or CD's which is bonded to the machine that creates them. Other manufacturers may do the same. Therefore, before you start, make sure you have your restore disks. You may need to restore Vista for warranty service.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Before I started, I searched Google for the HP model number + install + XP. I found that a lot of people have tried to do it and failed on this particular machine.

Originally posted by: Sbuddie
The Dell did come with two partitions and I'd like to keep it that way, if possible.

1. One important thing I learned is that Vista does some strange things to the partition table. The HP also had two, one of which was used for restore purposes. It has to go. See below for ways to do that.

2. In the CMOS, look to see if the drive is set for ATA or RAID. If it's set for RAID, change it to ATA.

I used Partition Magic, booting from a floppy, to remove them. As it was booting, the program gave me a message that something was wrong with the first partition and asked if I wanted it to fix the problem. I clicked "Yes," and that was the end of that problem. I could then remove both partitions and set up a single, active standard NTFS partition.

If your machine doesn't have a floppy, you may be able to do the same thing booting from a flash drive with the program. You can use HP's DriveKey program to make a bootable USB Flash drive and copy the command line version of Partition Magic to it. I used to be able to find it on HP's site, but here's one link for it. The zipped file also includes basic DOS commands you may need. Here's another link on HP's site that may do the same thing. I haven't tried this one to verify it.

A good XP installation doesn't need the restore partition, but if you want more than one partition, you'll have to set that up after you remove your old ones. Partition Magic will do it very easily.

If you don't have Partition Magic, you can try Delpart.exe. It's a genuine Microsoft utility from NT 4 that will allow you to nuke an NTFS partition from a bootable DOS floppy. I've used it, before, and it works, but I don't know if it will with Vista's partition setup, and I don't know whether it gives you the option of deleting one of several partitions or deletes all partitions at once.

In any case, the objective is to blow off all partitions created by Vista so XP sees a completely new, unpartitioned, unformatted drive that will allow you to create a new, standard NTFS partition.

Be VERY sure you have all the drivers for the chipset and any other features on the motherboard. Find and download everything you'll need for XP, and burn it to a CD before you remove Vista. Check HP's site to look for any drivers, etc. that will work with XP. You may be able to find earlier models using the exact same motherboard that were sold with XP. If so, those drivers may work for your installation. Note the chipsets used for onboard LAN, sound, etc., and check the chip makers' sites for their chip models.

One way to find them is to check the page for the motherboard to see if they list the model or stock number. Then, go to the page where they sell replacement parts, and do a reverse lookup for the part number. It may list various models that use the same motherboard. You may also find info about the motherboard make and model by searchng for it on Google.

You should also download whatever firewall, spyware blockers and any other safety utilities you want and put them on the CD.

Then, when you install XP, do NOT activate it right away. That way, you'll be able to copy install your anti-virus and other safety programs before you ever hit the web to activate XP.

Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image will save your butt any number of ways. To avoid killing the machine, I installed XP on another drive and Ghosted it to the original drive only after I had it running. That way, I could test the installation before blowing off the original Vista installation.

Even if your current drive is SATA, you can build your installation on an old PATA drive and use Ghost to transfer it to a SATA drive once it's working. If you have two spare drives, you can Ghost your build as you get each step running. That way, if the next step fails, you can put it back to the last good point and try again. Running a good registry cleaner, such as Norton WinDoctor or Registry Mechanic, after installing each program can also help keep your build clean and solid.
 

Aeridyne

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Very good tips for the setup of the disk. That would be very helpful, but I have already got xp installed. I purchased Acronis disk director, split my HD to 3 partitions, installed xp, used vistabootpro to restore the dual boot functionality and now all i need is the drivers for xp. I have a perfectly working dual boot, so i can boot to vista, look for drivers, download them to my drive, reboot to xp and try them out.

I also have a backup made of my Vista drive just incase that went wrong, but thankfully I didn't need it yet. I also made a backup of the base xp install, incase any of the drivers go horribly awry when i try to install them.

I do not know the model of the motherboard and the only info that i could find on Hp's website was the original system configuration that has very unspecific details on it.

As for the driver link above, that looks a lot like what Harvey is talking about here, does anyone know if the HP Pavilion dv6000z CTO Notebook PC has the same hardware as my DV6605us?

Thank you for some really good info guys.
 

Aeridyne

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Oh and Harvey, i am a bit confused on how to make the restore disks. Are you saying that the machine i burn them from becomes the only one that can use them? Or just that I can only use it on a Dv6605.

another point of interest was whether I could try and get drivers out of a restore disk? Probably not since it likely just lays down a sort of image. Where would i get the restore disk for mine and what machine should I use to download and burn it?
 

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Originally posted by: Aeridyne
Oh and Harvey, i am a bit confused on how to make the restore disks. Are you saying that the machine i burn them from becomes the only one that can use them? Or just that I can only use it on a Dv6605.

another point of interest was whether I could try and get drivers out of a restore disk? Probably not since it likely just lays down a sort of image. Where would i get the restore disk for mine and what machine should I use to download and burn it?

With HP/Compaq machines, you should've made the restore discs right after you boot up the computer for the first time. You can only burn the discs once, and afterwards you have to either restore from HDD partition or order the discs directly from HP for $20.
 

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Originally posted by: Parasitic
Originally posted by: Aeridyne
Oh and Harvey, i am a bit confused on how to make the restore disks. Are you saying that the machine i burn them from becomes the only one that can use them? Or just that I can only use it on a Dv6605.

another point of interest was whether I could try and get drivers out of a restore disk? Probably not since it likely just lays down a sort of image. Where would i get the restore disk for mine and what machine should I use to download and burn it?

With HP/Compaq machines, you should've made the restore discs right after you boot up the computer for the first time. You can only burn the discs once, and afterwards you have to either restore from HDD partition or order the discs directly from HP for $20.

OH, I haven't made them yet. I was under the impression that you download them, you are saying that you make them from within the OS?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Aeridyne

I do not know the model of the motherboard and the only info that i could find on Hp's website was the original system configuration that has very unspecific details on it.

The specs are on page 1 of the manual for your laptop series. The linked version lists several models, some with Intel CPU's and some use AMD's. Find the one that matches yours, and note the chipset. The drivers you want are for the chipset in your machine. If you can't get them from HP, go to Intel or AMD for the lastest drivers for your chipset and graphics system.

Oh and Harvey, i am a bit confused on how to make the restore disks. Are you saying that the machine i burn them from becomes the only one that can use them? Or just that I can only use it on a Dv6605.

I haven't had to do it, so I'm not sure. However, it would make sense that you could use the disks to rebuild a hard drive from scratch. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to install a new drive if you wanted to replace a drive, either because it failed or because you want to upgrade to a larger one.

another point of interest was whether I could try and get drivers out of a restore disk? Probably not since it likely just lays down a sort of image.

Pulling the drivers from the restore disks may be difficult if they're within compressed files. You should be able to find all the current Vista drivers for your machine on HP's site.

The problem is, even if you could extract those drivers, you need XP compliant drivers. Vista drivers may not work correctly or completely under XP.

OH, I haven't made them yet. I was under the impression that you download them, you are saying that you make them from within the OS?

As Parasitic said, you burn them from the installed OS. Search the Help menu for restore or recovery. You'll need some small number of blank DVD's or a much larger number of CD's. If your software allows it, be sure to set it to verify the integrity of the burned files. If you get any bad ones, call or chat with HP's tech support for further help.

The truly safest thing would be to clone your drive with Ghost or True Image and put the backup drive somewhere safe. You'll have to check the usage of your drive, but I'm guessing the whole basic factory installation would probably fit on an old 40 - 60 GB drive. That way, if you wanted to restore that setup, all you'd have to do would be to clone the backup drive back to your system's drive.

Good luck.
 

wiredbits

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They worked with my DV6605US, install Microsoft Universal Audio Architecture (UAA) Bus Driver for High Definition Audio before you install the Conexant audio driver.
 

Aeridyne

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Originally posted by: wiredbits


They worked with my DV6605US, install Microsoft Universal Audio Architecture (UAA) Bus Driver for High Definition Audio before you install the Conexant audio driver.

OH SNAP! Righteous dude, im going to try them all right now, and thanks for the tip on Audio, that was the only one i did know how to do though, (i read it in max pc) but you still found the drivers for me, WOOT you rock.
 

Aeridyne

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Why are the nvidia drivers so far out of date? That is WAY behind. Is there any more recent drivers that I could be using?

I tried one of the drivers the 8.26_11.09 nforce_winxp drivers and they would not install... I would really like more updated chipset and graphics drivers.
 

Aeridyne

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It would appear that just about everything but the nvidia drivers is working... Wired did you use these exact same drivers? They won't work for me...
 

Aeridyne

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Ok, i got the wireless installed along with the amd driver, and card reader, but that is all that would go!

I think it needs the nvidia drivers to install the stuff that is sitting on the southbridge.
 

Aeridyne

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Using the Nvidia beta to auto find drivers i got the chipset driver, but it did not have the ethernet driver with it. So far that is the only other one that has installed correctly.
 

Harvey

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< New York accent >

I got yer drivers right heah!

< /New York accent >

I went to HP's page for your machine, clicked the link for Software & driver downloads, and it went to a page with the choice of links to drivers for Vista or XP.

Congratulations. You'll have to confirm it with the downloads, but it looks like you got a model that was sold during the transition period, and at least some of them were sold with XP so they're supporting it directly.

Pay special attention to the note in red: Alert! Your Model # May be Different. Identify Notebook Model to Resolve Issues Quickly in case there are any specific differences with your model.
 

Aeridyne

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Well... Unfortunately I have been to that page. The link for the XP drivers is sparse and doesn't really have any drivers that are relevant... Look at the difference between the Vista and XP drivers areas, XP has pretty much nothing useful.

Unless you are looking at a different page than I am, I followed your links there and those are the same ones that I came up with, which again, doesn't really have anything.

Just fyi - I have downloaded all the microsoft updates to eliminate that possibility of not letting me install the 6000 CTO drivers... no change. I remain having only the wireless and a few other misc. items installed. The chipset from Nvidia installed ok, but still didn't even have the nic driver bundled with it. I still have a whole bunch of things with no drivers in my device manager.

Thanks for the effort though Harvey
 

Aeridyne

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whoops - I posted 2x - Oh well i will use this opportunity to ask a question...

Wired - I can't seem to get those drivers installed for anything other than the wireless card, media reader, and amd proc. driver (still have a coprocessor with no driver).

Did you do anything special to get them installed? I can't seem to get them to go.
 

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Originally posted by: Aeridyne

The chipset from Nvidia installed ok, but still didn't even have the nic driver bundled with it. I still have a whole bunch of things with no drivers in my device manager.

It took some hunting, but I think the answer is, your NIC chip may not require a driver. I started by ID'ing the LAN chip from the specs on page 4 of your manual

Ethernet Integrated Realtek 10/100 network interface card (NIC)

10/100/1000 (Gigabit Ethernet, RTL8211B)

RTL8211B is a Realtek part number.

RTL8211B

Single-Port 10/100/1000M Gigabit Ethernet PHYceiver

Note the word, PHYceiver.

I searched Google for Realtek RTL8211B driver Ethernet and found this link to General Questions about the series. Clicking the 9th question:

Q9: Why don't I find RTL8201x driver on the website?

A9:
RTL8201, RTL8201BL, RTL8201CL, RTL8201CP, RTL8201N and RTL8211B(L) are all PHYceiver. That is a driverless hardware device. Software driver are relative to Network controller (MAC) which is integrated into chipset in such case mostly. Please contact your mother board maker or chipset manufacturer to obtain proper driver support.

You may be able to get some help from HP's tech support chat system. They've helped me a lot in the past.
 

keithluneau

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Hi, I've just recently purchased a HP Pavilion DV6000 series myself. (dv6609wm to be specific) I was willing to give Vista a chance, and do find it aesthetically pleasing but it's just not up to my everyday needs. For that reason, I chose to dual boot with XP Professional. It wasn't exactly easy to locate all the drivers, so once I did I put them all together in a "package" that you can download, along with instructions for getting them all installed. I threw together a quick page on my website here:

HP Pavilion DV6000 Series Drivers for Windows XP

Hopefully it'll help someone!
Enjoy!
-Keith
 
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