insurance asking for home inspection report

Borkil

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I'm purchasing my first home and got a decent quote from Amica for home insurance. However the underwriter is asking to see the home inspection report. Is this normal? I feel like this would only serve to hinder me. The report is pretty clean (no major issues), but seems quite thorough. Just lots of stuff not up to current code due to age of the house. I'm worried this would turn into a checklist for them to demand. Am I being paranoid?
 

TechBoyJK

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I'm purchasing my first home and got a decent quote from Amica for home insurance. However the underwriter is asking to see the home inspection report. Is this normal? I feel like this would only serve to hinder me. The report is pretty clean (no major issues), but seems quite thorough. Just lots of stuff not up to current code due to age of the house. I'm worried this would turn into a checklist for them to demand. Am I being paranoid?

It is what it is. If you hide something from them and things go south, you could be in big trouble.
 

waffleironhead

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Yes it is normal. You can either send them the report, or let them do their own inspection. It may raise or lower the premium. The insurance companies already factor in the age of houses and the fact that codes change.
 

Humpy

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If there is an option to have them do their own, I wouldn't give them yours. The guy they send out won't notice or care about near as many things as in the home inspection.

Just tell them you can't find it.
 

Red Squirrel

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I would just keep shopping. It sounds like they're probably super stingy and even if it turns out ok now, who knows what else they'll want from you in the future. ex: they might not like if you do any changes etc. Insurance companies can be weird with stuff like that. When I bought my house I just called, gave them some basic info they asked for like square footage and that was that.
 

gorcorps

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I would just keep shopping. It sounds like they're probably super stingy and even if it turns out ok now, who knows what else they'll want from you in the future. ex: they might not like if you do any changes etc. Insurance companies can be weird with stuff like that. When I bought my house I just called, gave them some basic info they asked for like square footage and that was that.

Every single insurance company will demand this, all of them. Shopping around will just mean a new company is going to be asking for an inspection. They have no idea if you're hiding a major issue that already exists that you're going to try to claim as soon as the policy starts, so they want an inspection that says it's good enough.

It's standard, you will NOT be insured without an inspection. Either provide proof of your own or have them do it, either way they get the information they're looking for.
 

Borkil

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If there is an option to have them do their own, I wouldn't give them yours. The guy they send out won't notice or care about near as many things as in the home inspection.

Yeah this what I was thinking. I thought they would just send someone out and not ask for mine. I figured the guy they would send out would just do a cursory glance at stuff and not be as thorough. Anyways I just sent it to them. As some people mentioned here, if it doesn't work out then I'll just go with a different provider.
 

TechBoyJK

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Every single insurance company will demand this, all of them. Shopping around will just mean a new company is going to be asking for an inspection. They have no idea if you're hiding a major issue that already exists that you're going to try to claim as soon as the policy starts, so they want an inspection that says it's good enough.

It's standard, you will NOT be insured without an inspection. Either provide proof of your own or have them do it, either way they get the information they're looking for.

This. Unless you have something to hide, why not just give them your inspection? If I was looking to underwrite this policy, a delay in handing over an inspection would make me suspicious. Either you didn't get one when you bought the house (not good) or you don't want them to see it.
 

Red Squirrel

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Every single insurance company will demand this, all of them. Shopping around will just mean a new company is going to be asking for an inspection. They have no idea if you're hiding a major issue that already exists that you're going to try to claim as soon as the policy starts, so they want an inspection that says it's good enough.

It's standard, you will NOT be insured without an inspection. Either provide proof of your own or have them do it, either way they get the information they're looking for.

Was not the case when I bought my house. They asked for basic information and that's it. Maybe they sent someone to do an outside inspection but nobody ever came inside nor did they ask for the papers for my own inspection. I guess it varies per area.
 

boomerang

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Every single insurance company will demand this, all of them. Shopping around will just mean a new company is going to be asking for an inspection. They have no idea if you're hiding a major issue that already exists that you're going to try to claim as soon as the policy starts, so they want an inspection that says it's good enough.

It's standard, you will NOT be insured without an inspection. Either provide proof of your own or have them do it, either way they get the information they're looking for.
I've never been asked to provide an inspection. Switched insurers on our primary residence three years ago and they didn't ask. Purchased a second residence almost three years ago and wasn't asked. However, the secondary residence is in Florida and they did want proof that the roof was up to current hurricane related standards.
 

NetWareHead

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Was not the case when I bought my house. They asked for basic information and that's it. Maybe they sent someone to do an outside inspection but nobody ever came inside nor did they ask for the papers for my own inspection. I guess it varies per area.


This. My company, Liberty Mutual, did not inspect my house or ask for an inspection report. Just some basic questions and thats it.
 

boomerang

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This. My company, Liberty Mutual, did not inspect my house or ask for an inspection report. Just some basic questions and thats it.
Same here although the number of questions has increased. I had always been asked how old the roof was but when I was shopping a few months ago I was asked how old the HVAC system was.
 

gorcorps

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Was not the case when I bought my house. They asked for basic information and that's it. Maybe they sent someone to do an outside inspection but nobody ever came inside nor did they ask for the papers for my own inspection. I guess it varies per area.

I've never been asked to provide an inspection. Switched insurers on our primary residence three years ago and they didn't ask. Purchased a second residence almost three years ago and wasn't asked. However, the secondary residence is in Florida and they did want proof that the roof was up to current hurricane related standards.

This. My company, Liberty Mutual, did not inspect my house or ask for an inspection report. Just some basic questions and thats it.

It's entirely possible your bank sent them their inspection report, that's what mine did. I don't think this varies by state, but I guess it might... anyway I believe it's a requirement for any home loan to get your home inspected. My homeowners insurance is handled through an escrow account through the bank, and I gave my bank my insurance info so they could get all that set up. Part of that transaction was the bank provided State Farm with my passed home inspection. If the bank didn't tell me that's part of what they were doing, I wouldn't have known as it was all done without my involvement after I gave them my insurance contact. That might be why you guys never had to provide one... if you're paying insurance through escrow the bank most likely covered that part for you.

If that's not the case I don't have a good explanation why they wouldn't need an inspection. I've always known it as standard practice for insurance. Every time I got a new car they'd come out to visually inspect it as well, make sure there wasn't damage I was going to claim immediately.
 

Humpy

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A lot of this is new to me, even after buying a couple of homes, known people who inspected homes for banks, buyers, and government.

They all have different purposes with only some beneficial overlap.

An insurance company is looking for the common risks that they have to pay out for, pointy stuff the neighbors will trip and impale themselves on, how much it might cost to replace something, and a general sense of their customers behavior and risk. They are not expected to find, nor are they looking for, any non obvious construction or maintenance defects.

A bank's main focus is on the value of the land and structure, i.e. square footage and whether it is being reasonably maintained so it can be repossessed and sold. Both banks and insurance companies can and will stop by and visually inspect your property whenever they feel the need and will share this info.

A home inspection at the time of sale is to educate the buyer on what exactly they are paying for and what they may need to improve in the future, etc. Most of these details are private, meant to help make a decision, not to help your insurance company deny a claim. It would be foolish to freely hand this over unless obligated.
 

Humpy

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Yeah this what I was thinking. I thought they would just send someone out and not ask for mine. I figured the guy they would send out would just do a cursory glance at stuff and not be as thorough. Anyways I just sent it to them. As some people mentioned here, if it doesn't work out then I'll just go with a different provider.

I imagine somewhere in the fine print it says they can share or sell the report to other insurance companies.

Be prepared to pay higher premiums for the rest of you life.
 

Pens1566

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It's entirely possible your bank sent them their inspection report, that's what mine did. I don't think this varies by state, but I guess it might... anyway I believe it's a requirement for any home loan to get your home inspected. My homeowners insurance is handled through an escrow account through the bank, and I gave my bank my insurance info so they could get all that set up. Part of that transaction was the bank provided State Farm with my passed home inspection. If the bank didn't tell me that's part of what they were doing, I wouldn't have known as it was all done without my involvement after I gave them my insurance contact. That might be why you guys never had to provide one... if you're paying insurance through escrow the bank most likely covered that part for you.

If that's not the case I don't have a good explanation why they wouldn't need an inspection. I've always known it as standard practice for insurance. Every time I got a new car they'd come out to visually inspect it as well, make sure there wasn't damage I was going to claim immediately.

I've never had a loan institution REQUIRE an inspection. I've always done it, because its just smart. I've also never had an insurance company demand the inspection report. This is in multiple states over 2+ decades.

OP, just give it to them. You're a buyer. If there's anything ... interesting on the report, you should just have seller fix or amend contract to adjust for repair cost.
 

SparkyJJO

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Every single insurance company will demand this, all of them. Shopping around will just mean a new company is going to be asking for an inspection. They have no idea if you're hiding a major issue that already exists that you're going to try to claim as soon as the policy starts, so they want an inspection that says it's good enough.

It's standard, you will NOT be insured without an inspection. Either provide proof of your own or have them do it, either way they get the information they're looking for.

I never got a home inspection when I bought my house (knew what I was looking for, knew people who had worked on the place before, blah blah), and I had zero issues getting it insured. The only thing they even really cared about was the fireplace, which they did send someone out to double check a couple things about its install (measurements to the walls, surrounding floor), but that was it.
 

DrPizza

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It's entirely possible your bank sent them their inspection report, that's what mine did. I don't think this varies by state, but I guess it might... anyway I believe it's a requirement for any home loan to get your home inspected. My homeowners insurance is handled through an escrow account through the bank, and I gave my bank my insurance info so they could get all that set up. Part of that transaction was the bank provided State Farm with my passed home inspection. If the bank didn't tell me that's part of what they were doing, I wouldn't have known as it was all done without my involvement after I gave them my insurance contact. That might be why you guys never had to provide one... if you're paying insurance through escrow the bank most likely covered that part for you.

If that's not the case I don't have a good explanation why they wouldn't need an inspection. I've always known it as standard practice for insurance. Every time I got a new car they'd come out to visually inspect it as well, make sure there wasn't damage I was going to claim immediately.

Nope, no inspection done here, property was sold "as is" - foreclosure property. From the time we put in the offer, until we closed, no one entered, except someone from a competing realtor. That realtor had the keys and refused to do anything related to us closing on the house. Insurance company asked a few questions on the phone, and that was about it. At one point during the questioning, they started to insist we'd need flood insurance, since there's a stream running through the property. My wife told them that if it ever gets anywhere near close to flooding here, they better be building an ark. Even at that, they took her word for it.
 

NetWareHead

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It's entirely possible your bank sent them their inspection report, that's what mine did. I don't think this varies by state, but I guess it might... anyway I believe it's a requirement for any home loan to get your home inspected. My homeowners insurance is handled through an escrow account through the bank, and I gave my bank my insurance info so they could get all that set up. Part of that transaction was the bank provided State Farm with my passed home inspection. If the bank didn't tell me that's part of what they were doing, I wouldn't have known as it was all done without my involvement after I gave them my insurance contact. That might be why you guys never had to provide one... if you're paying insurance through escrow the bank most likely covered that part for you.

If that's not the case I don't have a good explanation why they wouldn't need an inspection. I've always known it as standard practice for insurance. Every time I got a new car they'd come out to visually inspect it as well, make sure there wasn't damage I was going to claim immediately.

Interesting but I know when I applied for a mortgage, the bank sent an appraiser to verify the property was worth financing and met certain requirements. When I say requirements, I mean pretty basic things. Sq footage, property size, is each room heated, plumbing fixtures had to pass a running water test. Etc.. Pretty basic stuff and no where near as thorough as a typical home inspection which I also had done for my own purposes. Actually, my home inspection in my most recent house came up with knob and tube wiring which the appraiser never even looked for; I didn't want the bank coming up with any reasoning to deny the mortgage
 

gorcorps

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I never got a home inspection when I bought my house (knew what I was looking for, knew people who had worked on the place before, blah blah), and I had zero issues getting it insured. The only thing they even really cared about was the fireplace, which they did send someone out to double check a couple things about its install (measurements to the walls, surrounding floor), but that was it.

Nope, no inspection done here, property was sold "as is" - foreclosure property. From the time we put in the offer, until we closed, no one entered, except someone from a competing realtor. That realtor had the keys and refused to do anything related to us closing on the house. Insurance company asked a few questions on the phone, and that was about it. At one point during the questioning, they started to insist we'd need flood insurance, since there's a stream running through the property. My wife told them that if it ever gets anywhere near close to flooding here, they better be building an ark. Even at that, they took her word for it.

That's just so weird to me. I wouldn't expect such variability in insurance providers, and thought it was pretty standard. Guess I was wrong.
 

Borkil

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Well they called me back and said the only issue is the roof. Due to the info from the inspection on the roof they will only provide actual cash value and not replacement cost on the roof. What do you guys think about this? Seems like a bad deal for me. The roof is most likely what I would ever need to use insurance for. The roof is 12 years old but is in decent shape.
 

sphenodont

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They have their underwriting criteria, and your roof doesn't qualify for replacement cost. It is what it is.

It's probably whatever material your roof is made from isn't durable enough and they know that it'll be stupid expensive to repair. That would be a bad deal for them to insure a costly roof that they can be almost certain to have to pay for.
 
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