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Haha I love this comment when taken in context. It is so true.That's how I know opposition to the death penalty is wrong. So many against it.
Haha I love this comment when taken in context. It is so true.That's how I know opposition to the death penalty is wrong. So many against it.
Most people that use guns in crimes or commit murder, can't legally own a gun in the first place. I'm pretty sure they won't purchase any insurance either.
Maybe by fining the people that couldn't be bothered to properly store their guns and got them stolen.So how are you going to tax criminals that illegally possess firearms? Maybe we can start taxing the city of Chicago for what seems like daily mass shootings?
I hope you know I am against the death penalty. It is wrong regardless of how many disagree. Way back before modern civilization, when there were no governments that could run jails, you had to kill killers as the only way to keep them from killing again. No true today. Numbers never equate to truthHaha I love this comment when taken in context. It is so true.
San Jose mayor: Gun owners should cover the cost of gun violence | CNN
My gun control proposals include two measures that no other city nor state in the United States has ever tried: mandatory gun insurance to support victims, and mandatory gun fees to compensate taxpayers, writes Sam Liccardo. As with many other Silicon Valley innovations, we intend to implement...www.cnn.com
Basically take the costs society pays for gun violence, and distribute it to all gun owners in the form of a tax and an insurance requirement.
Effect: would make it easier for police to take guns away from irresponsible people, allow insurers to get guns away from high risk individuals as premiums would be higher for them, and would make people generally behave safer lest they become uninsurable.
Legal? Not legal? Not sure. You can't do this sort of thing with voting (insurance in order to vote?)but can you do it with guns? Hard to say. Gun ownership already has fees and taxes associated that have been accepted as ok so it doesn't seem like a stretch to me.
You could certainly argue that insurance would be part of a "well regulated militia". Hell there are companies that already cater to this market.
No i haven't. Link please? An "explosive object" ? Go back to school child.You've already come out in favor of taxing voting by making it more expensive for certain groups of people, and anyone can stand on a public sidewalk and scream for free, so what's the problem with having insurance on a gun that is literally an explosive object?
Hint: It's all the people, (males if you want to be accurate) but why would you want to be accurate at this late date? You never have before.yeah but no 2Aers even acknowledge that line in the 2A. They don't even know what a "well regulated militia" is (hint: it's the National Guard)
It's sort of the like excuse of "Yeah, that's just a few bad apples"... you HAVE to say the next line. That's the punchline of the phrase!!!
No i haven't. Link please? An "explosive object" ? Go back to school child.
Hint: It's all the people, (males if you want to be accurate) but why would you want to be accurate at this late date? You never have before.
So what are we taxing and regulating? Illegal violent activities by criminals?How are you gonna make people who drive illegally get insurance? Maybe you're right and car insurance is a total scam. Basically because people will commit crimes with anything they get their hands on, we should make no effort to tax or regulate anything.
Chiefs' Clark arrested; cops say Uzi spotted in car
Chiefs defensive end Frank Clark was arrested Sunday in Los Angeles on suspicion of having a concealed firearm in a vehicle, according to an LAPD spokesperson.www.espn.com
Btw I saw this story on ESPN. Sure that guy planned to use his Uzi for self defense only. 2nd amendment!
Oddly enough, gun crimes and ownership isn't tracked that well but a simple question to the googler and you shall have your answer. If you are questioning whether the majority of legal gun owners commit crimes with their firearms or not, you should stop and choose another approach to support gun control.Feel free to back that up with some facts.
Also, the number one and two killers with guys are suicides and accidents. Number three is domestic violence.
So what are we taxing and regulating? Illegal violent activities by criminals?
Isn't gunpowder not technically an explosive? It doesn't actually detonate. Is my gasoline car propelled by explosives?Are you saying that bullets aren't propelled by explosives?
Read some more of that article where it states 65% illegally obtained and that's with sketchy data collection. How many of the mass shootings in Chicago where by legal gun owners? I'm sure gang members go through a background check.The vast majority of mass shootings are committed by those who own their guns legally:
Mass shootings in the U.S.: legality of weapons 2023 | Statista
100 of the mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and December 2023 involved weapons which were obtained legally; a clear majority.www.statista.com
Research is also tough on general crime because the US limits data on studying guns because of regressive lunatics like yourself and states have such varying laws, such as regressive red states having bullshit lax gun laws. But in this study, a larger portion of felons involved in gun crime got their guns not on the black market but:
About 48 percent of state prison inmates surveyed said they got the gun they used from a family member, friend, gun store, pawn shop, flea market, or gun show. Most states only require a background check if the purchase happens at a gun store, according to the Giffords Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
Forty percent of state prison inmates admitted they obtained the gun illegally on the black market, from a drug dealer, or by stealing it.
Do illegal gun owners commit most gun crime?
U.S. Rep. John Faso says he opposes some gun-control measures because they target the wrong people. Laws that limit thewww.politifact.com
So - 48 percent of criminals surveyed did not get their guns illegally vs 40 percent that did. Seems gun insurance would make a pretty big difference.
But your GQP fantasy is a country with the most gun violence of any first world country by a mile, and doing absolutely nothing to change it. Basically you and your ilk, by supporting gun policy as is, have blood on your hands. Sickos.
Isn't gunpowder not technically an explosive? It doesn't actually detonate. Is my gasoline car propelled by explosives?
Read some more of that article where it states 65% illegally obtained and that's with sketchy data collection. How many of the mass shootings in Chicago where by legal gun owners? I'm sure gang members go through a background check.
Never said anything about the majority of legal gun owners. I said the majority of deaths aren't caused by illegal guns. He and now you have claimed otherwise back it up with something other than a meme.Oddly enough, gun crimes and ownership isn't tracked that well but a simple question to the googler and you shall have your answer. If you are questioning whether the majority of legal gun owners commit crimes with their firearms or not, you should stop and choose another approach to support gun control.
Exactly. I'd wager the vast vast majority of gun crime in this country was perpetrated with guns that were legally purchased when they first got into circulation into society.Never said anything about the majority of legal gun owners. I said the majority of deaths aren't caused by illegal guns. He and now you have claimed otherwise back it up with something other than a meme.
Or do you honestly think the majority of suicides, accidents and domestic violence are caused by illegal guns?