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By Terril Yue Jones, Times Staff Writer


Intel Corp. said Tuesday that it had figured out how to shrink transistors for PCs so that 1 billion could fit on a single chip, making it possible to pack the power of a supercomputer into a device the size of a deck of cards.

Loading a chip with so many transistors ? Intel's Pentium 4 microprocessor for personal computers holds about 55 million ? would give it mind-boggling muscle while potentially lowering its price.

Intel's breakthrough was in finding new materials to replace silicon in the microscopic gates that control whether a transistor is on or off. With silicon gates as thin as five molecules, as they are in the successor to the Pentium 4, they leak significant amounts of energy. The new materials not only prevent leaks but also enable a transistor to work faster, the Santa Clara, Calif.-based company said.

"It's as if the construction industry decided that concrete and steel had reached the end of their road and need to be replaced," said Rob Willoner, a manufacturing technology analyst at Intel, which is the world's largest chip maker.

Chips built with the silicon-replacement materials would breathe new life into Moore's Law. Named for Intel co-founder Gordon Moore, it holds that the cost of computing power falls steadily over time.

"We have removed the industry's most challenging roadblock to ensuring Moore's Law spans into the next decade, ultimately leading to much lower-cost computing power and enabling applications that cannot be imagined today," said Ken David, director of Intel's components research group.

Intel said its researchers replaced the silicon in the gate electrode, which operates like an on-off switch, with a new metal-based material that the company wouldn't identify for competitive reasons. The new gate will be insulated from the silicon on which transistors are etched with a substance Intel calls High-k for its capacity to hold an electric charge. The company wouldn't disclose the recipe for High-k either.

Willoner likened a silicon gate to a faucet that drips. The High-k insulation stops the leaks, and that will enable smaller and smaller transistors to be more efficient, he said.

Martin Reynolds, an analyst with the technology market research firm Gartner Inc., said the new chips would be "smaller, faster, cheaper" and would "drive the continuing advance of electronics into our lives."

Intel believes it can introduce the High-k and metal gate technologies in chips set to hit the market in 2007, when the company plans to introduce a new generation of computer microprocessors. The new technologies shouldn't add much in cost or entail significant modifications in manufacturing, David said.

With today's chip technology, the industry is "pushing the edge of being able to do real-time recording of video, one TV channel at a time," said Steve Kleynhans, an analyst with META Group, a technology industry analysis firm.

"Maybe a billion-transistor microprocessor will be able to record all TV channels simultaneously, in high definition, or produce high-level, unbreakable algorithms for security, or real-time simultaneous translation ? problems that can only be handled by supercomputers today," Kleynhans said.

Intel shares fell 36 cents to $33.68 in Nasdaq trading.
 

tinfoil

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Sorry about that. I just copied it from the paper. I guess i could have cleaned it up.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: tinfoil
Sorry about that. I just copied it from the paper. I guess i could have cleaned it up.
That's what the "edit" button is for.


I'm not sure how many people here will appreciate the news, since it doesn't have an immediate impact, but this is really a HUGE breakthrough.

 

OddTSi

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
I'm not sure how many people here will appreciate the news, since it doesn't have an immediate impact, but this is really a HUGE breakthrough.

Haven't you learned yet Wingz, if it doesn't come from AMD on the hardware side or Linus Torvalds on the software side, then it must not be important news.


BTW, does anyone have a link to an article or something with more specific information about Intel's discovery than was posted on all the news sites? I'd love to read a slightly more in-depth article about this.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: OddTSi
Originally posted by: Wingznut
I'm not sure how many people here will appreciate the news, since it doesn't have an immediate impact, but this is really a HUGE breakthrough.

Haven't you learned yet Wingz, if it doesn't come from AMD on the hardware side or Linus Torvalds on the software side, then it must not be important news.


BTW, does anyone have a link to an article or something with more specific information about Intel's discovery than was posted on all the news sites? I'd love to read a slightly more in-depth article about this.
Or perhaps technology that's 4 years from the market is just the ultimate in paper launches and doesn't interest people right at this moment?
 

jbond04

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: OddTSi
Originally posted by: Wingznut
I'm not sure how many people here will appreciate the news, since it doesn't have an immediate impact, but this is really a HUGE breakthrough.

Haven't you learned yet Wingz, if it doesn't come from AMD on the hardware side or Linus Torvalds on the software side, then it must not be important news.


BTW, does anyone have a link to an article or something with more specific information about Intel's discovery than was posted on all the news sites? I'd love to read a slightly more in-depth article about this.
Or perhaps technology that's 4 years from the market is just the ultimate in paper launches and doesn't interest people right at this moment?

I guess you have to work in a fab to appreciate this.
From the title of this post, I thought it was some bullsh*t news from the Inquirer...now, I'm excited. This is awesome stuff.
 

zephyrprime

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I guess you have to work in a fab to appreciate this.
The problem is, most people don't understand this stuff. Even most people at AT don't understand this stuff.
 
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Oh I appreciate it... This is good new indeed. What I want to know is how long will it take before they get to 1Billion transistors... My guess is that initially off the chips will be really small but won't utilize that 1 billion mark... what could we expect from a 1 billion transistor count CPU... More cache?... Graphics compatibility? Or would more cores sound about right?
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: OddTSi
Originally posted by: Wingznut
I'm not sure how many people here will appreciate the news, since it doesn't have an immediate impact, but this is really a HUGE breakthrough.

Haven't you learned yet Wingz, if it doesn't come from AMD on the hardware side or Linus Torvalds on the software side, then it must not be important news.


BTW, does anyone have a link to an article or something with more specific information about Intel's discovery than was posted on all the news sites? I'd love to read a slightly more in-depth article about this.
Or perhaps technology that's 4 years from the market is just the ultimate in paper launches and doesn't interest people right at this moment?

Perhaps your right BoberFett, but it does interest me. And I am a "people" am I not?

Yes, please post a link to any articles you have so we can read a bit.

Keys

 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: IncredibleHutch
Oh I appreciate it... This is good new indeed. What I want to know is how long will it take before they get to 1Billion transistors... My guess is that initially off the chips will be really small but won't utilize that 1 billion mark... what could we expect from a 1 billion transistor count CPU... More cache?... Graphics compatibility? Or would more cores sound about right?

A 1 billion transistor chip could carry complete functionality of an entire PC Today on chip. Northbridge, Southbridge, Sound, Graphics, FPU. Everything.

More than likely though, itll just be an FPU monstrosity.
 

Overkiller

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*an FPU monstrosity*


Always a good thing

I really enjoyed the article, I cannot WAIT for multi-core processors . I just hope AMD is right on their heels if not ahead b/c competition is a Great thing and you gotta root for the underdog.

I, of course, loved how the article ended: blah blah blah great news blah blah blah "intel stock fell 22.4 today" ;Q
 

chsh1ca

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Maybe we'll start seeing the cache in the 10-20MB range. That would definitely speed things up for certain applications (imagine media creation done without wasting so many CPU cycles waiting for data). 16MB L2 Cache on every desktop anyone?
Assuming that 256KB of L2 Cache translates into 17mil transistors (as per Anandtech's Barton article), with a billion transistors, we could have 15058.8KB or ~15MB of L2 Cache. To an extent, cache would improve things more than other uses of those transistors, but where do engineers draw that line?

IMO, this is pretty cool.
 

Jeff7

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They talk about it generating high-level security algorithms? Think of what it could do to break current high-level encryption.:Q
 
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