News Intel 2Q24 Financial Results

Hitman928

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Oh boy, buckle up.

Intel missed on both revenue and earnings. Revenue was actually slightly down Y/Y.
  • Intel press release (NASDAQ:INTC): Q2 Non-GAAP EPS of $0.02 misses by $0.08.
  • Revenue of $12.83B (-0.9% Y/Y) misses by $150M.
  • Shares -10%.

Guidance for Q3 is not good. More to follow.

Intel's guidance for the third quarter of 2024 includes both GAAP and non-GAAP estimates as follows:


Q3 2024GAAPNon-GAAP
Revenue$12.5-13.5 billion
Gross Margin34.5%38.0%
Tax Rate34%13%
Earnings (Loss) Per Share Attributable to Intel—Diluted$(0.24)$(0.03)

 

Hitman928

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Implementing comprehensive reduction in spending, including a more than 15% headcount reduction, to resize and refocus.

Intel currently has ~120K employees, so they will be laying off close to 20K people. That's worse than reported earlier this week.
 

Saylick

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Client group continuing to make the most revenue, but it seems like margins are too low to keep the company profitable.
Margins being low is what happens when you keep cutting prices to sell what we now know are degrading chips in order to maintain market share. Although products made on Intel 7 will remain cheaper to manufacturer, they can't just keep pumping out RPL without addressing the elephant in the room, which is that those same chips have problems.
 

AcrosTinus

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Time for the company to be nimble and hungry again. The fabs will only show impact towards the end of the decade.
I'm still bullish on Intel, they have to turn from a blue whale into an orca.

If AMD can do it with a decade+ of garbage, Intel can do it.

Should it not be the case, the consumer DIY space is over... (AMD won't be selling you anything good with no competition).
 

Saylick

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Time for the company to be nimble and hungry again. The fabs will only show impact towards the end of the decade.
I'm still bullish on Intel, they have to turn from a blue whale into an orca.

If AMD can do it with a decade+ of garbage, Intel can do it.

Should it not be the case, the consumer DIY space is over... (AMD won't be selling you anything good with no competition).
I agree, but the fab side is an albatross around their necks. They may need to spin off Intel Foundries so that the design side isn't saddled with the negative cash flow.
 
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Saylick

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They didn't have that much outside of Xeons in enterprise dinosaur lands.
This isn't the Cult of Leather Jacket.
I don't know about that. I bet the average Joe still walks into Best Buy and has no problems with buying a computer with an Intel sticker on it. If their reputation is damaged by the 13th/14th gen issues enough where even average Joes ask sales reps in Best Buy to show them non-Intel computers only, that's when it will hurt.
 

adroc_thurston

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No, that's the same as before
P sure 15% perf over i3 was i20a, but no more I guess.
I don't know about that. I bet the average Joe still walks into Best Buy and has no problems with buying a computer with an Intel sticker on it. If their reputation is damaged by the 13th/14th gen issues enough where even average Joes ask sales reps in Best Buy to show them non-Intel computers only, that's when it will hurt.
Nah, they don't care about stickers, they buy laptops.
 
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Abwx

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Intel expects further cuts in 2025 and 2026.

Debt has increased to over $48B.

At 100k$/year average employee cost that s 2bn/year saved, not that much for a 60bn/year revenue, so the additional layoffs are not that surprising but at some point there will be nothing left to layoff, they are paying for uncautious decisions like abandonning the memory and SSD markets among others.
 

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They are suspending the dividend again in the 4th quarter of this year.

Client group continuing to make the most revenue, but it seems like margins are too low to keep the company profitable.

FWIW, CCG (Client Computing) operating margins look decent, but Foundry + DCAI (datacenter, AI) + NEX (network, edge) + Altera (FPGA etc) + Mobileye (automated driving) seem to all be quite weak:

Q2 2024 | Operating Margin per Segment | best to worst
CCG OM: 33.7%
Mobileye: 16.4%
NEX OM: 10.3%
DCAI OM: 9.1%
Altera OM: -6.9%
Foundry OM: -65.5%
Company Total OM: -15.3%







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