Intel 3.06GHz CPU with Hyper-Threading review

[MetroRider]

Check the review of this newest cpu from Intel over at HardOCP....

Intel 3.06GHz CPU with HT review

enjoy and leave your comments here.... thanks!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Thanx for the link

Our highest air cooled setting possible without sacrificing memory timings was 23 x 160Mhz for a massive 3.68GHz, rock solid at 1.70v.

that's damned nice on air with aggressive mem settings and HT active :Q Especially since the HT showed such a nice performance increase in the selected apps, sometimes as much or more than a 200mhz clock increase showed! I think a GB board with a that chip OC'ed will be uberfast, I can't wait to see what that setup will do with SETI times

 

[zephyrprime]

Pretty immpressive. Especially with photoshop.

Every once in a while, someone here on AT asks wheter Windows multitasking is "smoother" with Intel or AMd processors and the answer is always "It doesn't matter". This won't be true anymore with the p4+HT.

 

[Duvie]

This was posted in the GH forum already, but it is good here as well....

I got to say I was lown away by some of the numbers...Maybe a bit of skepticism from leaked half-a** reviews, and the fact it sounded to good to be true especially when you understand who the source was at the IDF earlier this year....


I wish it came in lower level flavors as I don't see myself spending the dough for it until it hits 200 level and that may be awhile...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I wish it came in lower level flavors as I don't see myself spending the dough for it until it hits 200 level and that may be awhile...

That's an excellent point, but perhaps due to market demands and the fact that it gives them a new performance angle to market it'll be available shortly in lower mhz ratings like with the first Northwood releases, it's possible anyways if not probable.......

 

[Uclagamer_99]

hmm isn't there an article somewhere about a p4 northwood 2.4b using HT? something about a bios update enabling it

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: HenHowC
hmm isn't there an article somewhere about a p4 northwood 2.4b using HT? something about a bios update enabling it

It's very inaccurate (and not possible.) As far as I know, HT will not be offered on the lower mhz cpu's.

This is a somewhat different HT than was offered in the Xeons.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: HenHowC
hmm isn't there an article somewhere about a p4 northwood 2.4b using HT? something about a bios update enabling it

It's very inaccurate (and not possible.) As far as I know, HT will not be offered on the lower mhz cpu's.

This is a somewhat different HT than was offered in the Xeons.

Bummer

 

[Uclagamer_99]

hmm i was reading this...dunno if its legit or not though

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: HenHowC
hmm i was reading this...dunno if its legit or not though

I'm not doubting the validity of the screenshots... But the software is inaccurate.

It is not possible to magically enable HT on a sub-3.06ghz cpu. Trust me on that one.

 

[MadTom]

Wingznut, is it then maybe possible that the pictures have been done with a unlocked HT enabled P4?

 

[Evnas]

All i can say is "WOW!". WIth this technology becoming the "norm" for Intel processors, im sure just about everything, including future games, will support it. Main reason most dont is cuz how many average users have 2 CPUs, heh. But with HT becoming a norm, in 5 years, EVERYBODY will have HT (unless of course u go with AMD, hehe), so im willing to bet just about every game, and application will start taking advantage of this asap. Honestly, i dont think AMD will be able to compete without getting a license for the tech themselves, or coming up with their own "version", because as HT matures, it will only get better, and better

 

[CrazySaint]

Btw, Anand's review is up, too!

 

[lookin4dlz]

Duvie, I have the same sub-$200 threshold for getting this chip. It should be there by summertime 2003, hopfully with a new stepping so I can plop it into my 845PE motherboard and overclock to 4GHz

 

[grunjee]

Either I was reading the graphs wrong or people are getting a little "hyped" up here... not to say this chip doesn't kick ass, because it does.

But I was reading the HardOCP review, and in several places the guy was like "... and so we see, that on this benchmark the new HT enabled chip once again yields significant performance gains over the non-HT enabled chip at 3 GHz..."

Like the Comanche4 demo... the dude was all excited because of the "gain" the HT chip got -- the graph showed an increase of 1.6 FPS versus the "regular" 3 GHz cpu.

I don't know about you but that doesn't seem like much to get excited about, considering the price.

Again if I misread the charts here let me know.

 

[Soulkeeper]

wow those Athlons were sure strong in the reviews
wink wink

 

[SupermanCK]

anyone notice that under Sandra's CPU Bench - Dhrystone ALU @ 3.06GHz (HT enabled) has 1000+ over 3.68GHz
even w/o HT, the score still beats 3.68GHz over 600+
but it all made up in Whetstone
???

 

[BowlingNut]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
wow those Athlons were sure strong in the reviews
wink wink

from anand's review (pg 18):

it just goes to show you that the days of absolute performance leaders are gone, you can only hope to pick the processor that does better overall.

there is no performance leader.

will all of the biased fan-boys please vacate the premises immediately, the capitalist police will arrest you for stupiditiy.

 

[Acanthus]

Star Wars Galaxies and Doom III both suport mutithreading, so hyperthreaded P4s should have greater performance even without programs running in the backround. They mention the multithread support for SWG somewhere in the FAQ on the official site. Doom IIIs announcement was from THWG at quakecon.

Finally 2 CPUs will matter, (and one will be faster too )

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: grunjee
Either I was reading the graphs wrong or people are getting a little "hyped" up here... not to say this chip doesn't kick ass, because it does.

But I was reading the HardOCP review, and in several places the guy was like "... and so we see, that on this benchmark the new HT enabled chip once again yields significant performance gains over the non-HT enabled chip at 3 GHz..."

Like the Comanche4 demo... the dude was all excited because of the "gain" the HT chip got -- the graph showed an increase of 1.6 FPS versus the "regular" 3 GHz cpu.

I don't know about you but that doesn't seem like much to get excited about, considering the price.

Again if I misread the charts here let me know.

You aren't reading them wrong, you're just concentrating on perhaps the least impressive benchie in the review For instance, take a look at the benchie with Comanche4 demo running + MM Jukebox encoding an entire CD to MP3 and you'll see a far more impressive advantage for the HT when 2 actual programs are running simultaneously. That's what stokes me out, what it's going to do for my multitasking not what it can do with a single multithread capable app

 

[Jeff7181]

Hyper-Threading? Pfffsh... I just looked at the reviews and benchmarks Anandtech just added to the site this morning, and it's hardly as exciting a SSE II. There's a few things it helps in, but for the average user, the XP2800 looks to be just as good a performer... slighterly better in some areas, slightly worse in others such as divx encoding and 3D Studio Max... but the average user doesn't do 3D graphic design in 3D Studio Max. I'm willing to bet the 2800 will be a lot cheaper than the P4 if Intel's past pricing habits count for anything. The 333 Mhz bus 2600+ is selling for $300 right now, so by the time the 2800+ hits the market, I'm guessing the 2600 will be lower, and the 2800 will be $300. Lets take a look at Intel's "flagship" CPU... the 2.8 Ghz Northwood core with a 533 Mhz bus... $440 at Tiger Direct... I don't know about any of you... but I'll keep my $140 and live with 100 fps in my games rather than 110, and sit here for 10 seconds longer while I convert a wav to an MP3.

 

[Mangler]

HT doesn't look great for gamers....So I'm kinda let down...oh well!

 

[Evnas]

Originally posted by: Mangler
HT doesn't look great for gamers....So I'm kinda let down...oh well!

As was stated, Doom 3 and SWG will both have dual CPU support, so HT will be great for it. And also, since thi is becoming a regular part of Intel processors just like SSE, and SSE2, im sure in a year or so, every new program will have support for it sinec it basically does give u a free performance boost.

 

[MajinVegeta]

Jeff, granted the 2800+ will be cheaper when it comes out, or should I say "IF the TBred B version of the 2800+ comes out?"

Plus if you read the reviews fully you will notice the 2800+ are on the NForce2 a board thats still not on shelves, without the Nforce2 the 2800+ looks like crap.

With current motherboard the 3.06 HT P4 looks great with dual channel DDR it will be a killer, did you not nitice how much more HT makes the P4 low latency memory dependant chip?

Now give it the same low latency and same bandwith, thats speed.

 

[BowlingNut]

any more intel fanboys wanna have speaking privleges revoked?
*looks up majin*