Intel 4440 vs 4690K

The Day Dreamer

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The only difference beside price is of frequency clock which is 3.1 GHz vs 3.5 GHz

A normal user with part time gaming and usage of Illustrator/Photoshop. Wil that be a problem ?
 

ShintaiDK

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3.1 base, 3.3 turbo vs 3.5Ghz base, 3.9Ghz turbo.

The 4440 is an obsolete product and replaced by 4460.

The only "problem" is the speed difference. You are the only one to determine if its an issue or not.
 

zir_blazer

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Assuming the price difference is not a lot and you don't need vPro or TXT, I would pick the Ci5 4690K since it is based on the Devil's Canyon better packaging.
 
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I would vote for 4690, it has quite a bit faster base clock and turbo. It is about 40.00 more expensive. If that is a big deal, I am sure 4460 would be fine, but considering the cost of a system and that it should last a few years, I think the extra clockspeed is worth the 40.00.

The 4690k does have better thermals (slightly) but I dont think you need to be concerned about that if you are not overclocking.
 
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Simple answer. You won't notice a difference with the kind of work you do. Buying an unlocked processor when you have no intention of overclocking is simply a waste of money.
The only single difference that you would notice between the two on stock settings would be during video conversions by some seconds or 1-2mins at max, that's all.
 

Stuka87

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The only way you will notice is if you over clock the 4690, and they do overclock well.

If you really need more horse power for PS and Illustrator, go for an i7.

otherwise, its a sidegrade.
 

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4570 can be had for under $180.- shipped. 3.2 base 3.6 turbo Haswell. If someone snuck into my sig rig and swapped I probably wouldn't notice.

I have an i5-4570 and can play the pre-alpha demo of Unreal Tournament with 8GB of RAM and a GT 640 (at medium settings) but still very nice and playable. (Actually, I read the new Unreal Tournament uses the graphics card more than the CPU so upgrading my video card would improve the performance. I'll likely wait until next December though to buy a video card given the odd choices from Nvidia right now.)
 

LTC8K6

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I didn't take the OP as an upgrade question, but as deciding which to buy?
 

Leyawiin

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Simple answer. You won't notice a difference with the kind of work you do. Buying an unlocked processor when you have no intention of overclocking is simply a waste of money.
The only single difference that you would notice between the two on stock settings would be during video conversions by some seconds or 1-2mins at max, that's all.

I read this in a review a couple of months ago (which I of course can't find now). It compared a number of different Intel processors in various applications and games and while there was a good bit of difference between the i3s and i5s in some the lower end i5s weren't appreciably slower than the higher end i5s. If you don't OC there's really no reason to get anything more than an i5-4460 or i5-4590 (which are both on sale fairly regularly for about $170-$180). I have two PCs - one with an i5-4590 and the other with an i5-4690K @ a fairly modest OC of 4.3 Ghz. When I swapped the same GPU between them I couldn't tell any difference in the games I play. There might be some minuscule difference if I benchmarked them, but after that I decided to back the i5-4690k down to stock. No reason to produce the extra heat for something I can't see.
 
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svenge

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For those not overclocking, the i5-4690K is a waste of money versus its non-K brethren. However this does not hold true for the i7-4790K, which has the highest stock clocks (4.0GHz base, 4.40GHz max turbo) by far of any Socket 1150 CPU.
 

LTC8K6

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For those not overclocking, the i5-4690K is a waste of money versus its non-K brethren. However this does not hold true for the i7-4790K, which has the highest stock clocks (4.0GHz base, 4.40GHz max turbo) by far of any Socket 1150 CPU.

And of course we immediately set up the 4790K so that it's "stock" speed is 4.4Ghz.
 

escrow4

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4590 or 4690, use MCE (Asrock boards usually have this option) to max turbo speed in 5 seconds and forget about overclocking. You won't notice the difference for you usage OP. Even in single player gaming, a few minimum FPS pffft.
 

PingSpike

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Simple answer. You won't notice a difference with the kind of work you do. Buying an unlocked processor when you have no intention of overclocking is simply a waste of money.
The only single difference that you would notice between the two on stock settings would be during video conversions by some seconds or 1-2mins at max, that's all.

Its worse than a waste of money since Intel disables features on non-K chips. If K and non-K cost the same it'd still be a judgement call based on intended use.
 

Dave3000

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4590 or 4690, use MCE (Asrock boards usually have this option) to max turbo speed in 5 seconds and forget about overclocking. You won't notice the difference for you usage OP. Even in single player gaming, a few minimum FPS pffft.

MCE is considered overclocking, that is running the CPU outside of factory specifications. On a i5-4690 factory specs call for 3.7 GHz for all cores being loaded. If you disabled CPU c-states, C1E, and Windows processor power management minimum at 100%, and kept turbo boost enabled, the 4690 would be running at 3.7 GHz provided that it was not hitting the TJ Max temperature.
 

crashtech

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I would choose neither. A 4590 is ten bucks more than the 4460 (the 4440's replacement) and has much better turbo bins.
 

MongGrel

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I thought the 4790'Ks were the ones these days with an OC, but I haven't owned one.

Still using an old X5680 at 4.6 myself.

Guess I shouldn't have posted here.
 

escrow4

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MCE is considered overclocking, that is running the CPU outside of factory specifications. On a i5-4690 factory specs call for 3.7 GHz for all cores being loaded. If you disabled CPU c-states, C1E, and Windows processor power management minimum at 100%, and kept turbo boost enabled, the 4690 would be running at 3.7 GHz provided that it was not hitting the TJ Max temperature.

Barely overclocking, and with this you don't need to fiddle at all. Maximum power on tap when required, idle at 800MHz. Win win.
 

Dave3000

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Barely overclocking, and with this you don't need to fiddle at all. Maximum power on tap when required, idle at 800MHz. Win win.

I tried running my 4930k at single core turbo, 3.9 GHz, on all cores but it seems that I had to turn off CPU power saving settings in the BIOS to fix a BSOD at low load, such as BSOD when loading CPU-Z, as during stress testing it was stable. I also read that CPU power saving features, like C-States, can cause overclocks to be unstable at near idle loads because the idle voltage of the vcore does not switch quick enough to the full load voltage. I think I can forget about using CPU power saving features if I run "Sync all Cores" at 3.9 GHz or higher if I want a more stable system while overclocking. So in my case I need to fiddle a bit when running at that setting.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I tried running my 4930k at single core turbo, 3.9 GHz, on all cores but it seems that I had to turn off CPU power saving settings in the BIOS to fix a BSOD at low load, such as BSOD when loading CPU-Z, as during stress testing it was stable. I also read that CPU power saving features, like C-States, can cause overclocks to be unstable at near idle loads because the idle voltage of the vcore does not switch quick enough to the full load voltage. I think I can forget about using CPU power saving features if I run "Sync all Cores" at 3.9 GHz or higher if I want a more stable system while overclocking. So in my case I need to fiddle a bit when running at that setting.

Hmm.. I thought that problem had something to do with choice of Offset voltage and LLC setting. There was an IB OC guide posted on the web that dealt with it at length.

I'm still running these SB processors and not the "E" variety. I thought I had the same problem -- very intermittent and difficult to diagnose -- gone now. Personally, if I couldn't use all the power-saving features at some clock setting, I'd just as soon drop the clock a notch.
 
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Simple answer. You won't notice a difference with the kind of work you do. Buying an unlocked processor when you have no intention of overclocking is simply a waste of money.
The only single difference that you would notice between the two on stock settings would be during video conversions by some seconds or 1-2mins at max, that's all.

I do it just to make sure the electrons are free to go where they need to for maximum efficiency during calculations
 

The Day Dreamer

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I am getting 4590 at slightly lesser price than 4570. And 4590 is only 15$ more than 4460.

So should I go with 4590?
 

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