Intel 8-core for $400 - When can we expect it?

[ShintaiDK]

maybe if AMD gets competitive again

I wouldn't hold my breath for that though (I'm a bitter former AMD fan)

I dont see it got anything with competition. Competition brings you more IGP power and more integration.

Adding more cores, atleast for now, is extremely wasteful on the desktop/mobile segment. You could overall be much better off it you exchange those cores to cache for now.

 

[sangyup81]

I dont see it got anything with competition. Competition brings you more IGP power and more integration.

Adding more cores, atleast for now, is extremely wasteful on the desktop/mobile segment. You could overall be much better off it you exchange those cores to cache for now.

Wasteful in the mobile segment yes but the desktop segment no especially since there are games and video editing software that use more than 4 threads

The reason why Intel hasn't brought CPU computing capability up since Sandy Bridge is because AMD hasn't improved their CPU computing capability much at all since the Phenom II. Instead, Intel has their eyes on ARM and the future of computing and has put all their emphasis on efficiency and their integrated GPUs

 

[greenhawk]

Haswell-E will probably bring a 6C/12T model for U$300 in 2014. Skylake could follow that in 2015.

The "-E" will stick to the same price points as currently being used. $400/$600/$1000. What you get at each level might chance, but I think intel wants the $400 point to stay 4 core.

 

[MisterMac]

I like how people say never.


Of course it'll come - the OPs question was WHEN.


Eventually even software will go full parallel as a base.


My question is: When everything goes full parallel - won't even for a gamer - would a EX socket setup make sense?

If performance goes fully threaded - server type SKUs with monster cores would suddenly make sence.


I imagine buying a 2U 4Socket Haswell EX and running virtual desktops and having screens connected via KPMI for semi lan parties.

At some point if threading takes over - Intel's Big Core Server lines suddenly becomes EXTERMELY valuable doens't it?

 

[R0H1T]

Oh I dunno perhaps anytime just before or after Intel goes bankrupt but since I don't see that happening in the not too distant future my answer would be nada as in never.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Wasteful in the mobile segment yes but the desktop segment no especially since there are games and video editing software that use more than 4 threads

The reason why Intel hasn't brought CPU computing capability up since Sandy Bridge is because AMD hasn't improved their CPU computing capability much at all since the Phenom II. Instead, Intel has their eyes on ARM and the future of computing and has put all their emphasis on efficiency and their integrated GPUs

Video editing software is not realtime dependent. And there are workstation solutions for that if you really need.

Games using more than 4 threads? How many games are that?

For me it seems people try to hide behind the competition argument and pull up AMD as a shield. It simply holds no truth.

Try think on what OEMs and the very wast majority of users demand. Then try look besides your own wishes that seems to be more cores.

You might find out that it got nothing with competition, simply Intel not serving your exact wishes, but rather the wast majority wishes instead.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Eventually even software will go full parallel as a base.

My question is: When everything goes full parallel - won't even for a gamer - would a EX socket setup make sense?

Currently there is no sign that it would ever happen. We would need a huge revolution in software coding that is completely different from what we know today to make that happen.

 

[MisterMac]

Currently there is no sign that it would ever happen. We would need a huge revolution in software coding that is completely different from what we know today to make that happen.

So you expect even 20 years from now - 4 cores will still be adequate?


Really?


You can't be that tunnelvisioned that even general computing at onepoint goes quantum or full parallel workload wise.


Yes it'll take time - but short of some new base material and some other disruptive tech more parallel is the only sure-fire shortcut to more absolute performance isn't it?

 

[ShintaiDK]

So you expect even 20 years from now - 4 cores will still be adequate?


Really?


You can't be that tunnelvisioned that even general computing at onepoint goes quantum or full parallel workload wise.


Yes it'll take time - but short of some new base material and some other disruptive tech more parallel is the only sure-fire shortcut to more absolute performance isn't it?

I ddint say that. But to ask for 8 cores now is just meaningless.

I doubt there will be much change in that the next 5 years.

 

[cytg111]

So you expect even 20 years from now - 4 cores will still be adequate?


Really?


You can't be that tunnelvisioned that even general computing at onepoint goes quantum or full parallel workload wise.


Yes it'll take time - but short of some new base material and some other disruptive tech more parallel is the only sure-fire shortcut to more absolute performance isn't it?

Thing is, this new language and compute paradigm is most likely going to come from very abstract academia at first and when ready it is problary gonna need a all kind of different silicon to operate on.

 

[crashtech]

An i5 variant would be 8C/8T.

This made me laugh, as an 8 core i5 is such an outlandish concept! But in our make believe story, you are right.