Intel 805 vs. Opteron 144?

[RideFree]

Super PI 1.1
Is that the correct one?
It will only pull the 24s with one mem chip installed (won't do it in dual channel) and I don't want to take it apart in order to do it.
I was really surprised when it ran slower this am with the dual RAM installed...I have yet to figure it out.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Jones2006
Go with the intel 805 and overclock it to 3.8+ ... it will outperform the opteron 165 check out the benchmarks at www.tomshardware.com

No it won't. 3.5 is the best I cna get, and thats common, unless you have watercooling and a big power supply, and good memory. Stevty has watercooling and he can only get 3.7 out of his.

I don't see why water cooling can't be an option if you're planning on OC'ing.
Air will take the 805 to 4GHz on max load if you've got slick tricks up your sleeve.

If you're spending over 200 bucks on low latency OC RAM, I don't see why you can't find enough money for a water cooling kit.

The 805 will destroy that Opteron in an OC battle and easily match an Athlon FX-62.

Tame the fanboys will ya, tweaking to the extreme requires thinking outside of what these damn AD-sponsored reviews can boast.

p.s. Installing custom modded heatpipes on water with an Asus board to draw heat from every aspect of the motherboard and combo'ing it with an Athlon FX60 will get you over 3GHz, speeds are good enough for Oblivion on an ATI crossfire setup, very high frame rates with XMS RAM.

 

[isekii]

I am hitting 3.8 at 39-42 idle where the ambient room temp is around 80 degrees idle on the D805 on my Abit Ni8-SLi using Arctic Cooling

I can go higher but decided to keep it at 3.8 and have it produce less heat in the summer.
I will pump it up to 4ghz when it gets a bit cooler.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Jones2006
Go with the intel 805 and overclock it to 3.8+ ... it will outperform the opteron 165 check out the benchmarks at www.tomshardware.com

No it won't. 3.5 is the best I cna get, and thats common, unless you have watercooling and a big power supply, and good memory. Stevty has watercooling and he can only get 3.7 out of his.

I don't see why water cooling can't be an option if you're planning on OC'ing.
Air will take the 805 to 4GHz on max load if you've got slick tricks up your sleeve.

If you're spending over 200 bucks on low latency OC RAM, I don't see why you can't find enough money for a water cooling kit.

The 805 will destroy that Opteron in an OC battle and easily match an Athlon FX-62.

Tame the fanboys will ya, tweaking to the extreme requires thinking outside of what these damn AD-sponsored reviews can boast.

p.s. Installing custom modded heatpipes on water with an Asus board to draw heat from every aspect of the motherboard and combo'ing it with an Athlon FX60 will get you over 3GHz, speeds are good enough for Oblivion on an ATI crossfire setup, very high frame rates with XMS RAM.

I have an 805, do you ? You need watercooler ($250) and a great motherboard ($200+) and great memory and a big psu to hit 4 ghz+ on an 805, and you still have a flamethrower. Get an X2, or an opteron, and on stock air, it will match that 805@4.2 for total less money. Stop talking without knowing what you are saying, as you don't have one, and I do, and so does stevty, we know.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Jones2006
Go with the intel 805 and overclock it to 3.8+ ... it will outperform the opteron 165 check out the benchmarks at www.tomshardware.com

No it won't. 3.5 is the best I cna get, and thats common, unless you have watercooling and a big power supply, and good memory. Stevty has watercooling and he can only get 3.7 out of his.

I don't see why water cooling can't be an option if you're planning on OC'ing.
Air will take the 805 to 4GHz on max load if you've got slick tricks up your sleeve.

If you're spending over 200 bucks on low latency OC RAM, I don't see why you can't find enough money for a water cooling kit.

The 805 will destroy that Opteron in an OC battle and easily match an Athlon FX-62.

Tame the fanboys will ya, tweaking to the extreme requires thinking outside of what these damn AD-sponsored reviews can boast.

p.s. Installing custom modded heatpipes on water with an Asus board to draw heat from every aspect of the motherboard and combo'ing it with an Athlon FX60 will get you over 3GHz, speeds are good enough for Oblivion on an ATI crossfire setup, very high frame rates with XMS RAM.

I have an 805, do you ? You need watercooler ($250) and a great motherboard ($200+) and great memory and a big psu to hit 4 ghz+ on an 805, and you still have a flamethrower. Get an X2, or an opteron, and on stock air, it will match that 805@4.2 for total less money. Stop talking without knowing what you are saying, as you don't have one, and I do, and so does stevty, we know.

Im not running Water Cooling or a great motherbaord over $200 bucks
and my 805 isn't a flame thrower.

I'm running Abit NI8 ($50) 2x 1gb Corsair Value Select ($105) Arctic Cooling Freezer ($25)

and i'm at 3.8ghz, tested higher but decided to keep it at 3.8 since my house is not air conditioned.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Jones2006
Go with the intel 805 and overclock it to 3.8+ ... it will outperform the opteron 165 check out the benchmarks at www.tomshardware.com

No it won't. 3.5 is the best I cna get, and thats common, unless you have watercooling and a big power supply, and good memory. Stevty has watercooling and he can only get 3.7 out of his.

I don't see why water cooling can't be an option if you're planning on OC'ing.
Air will take the 805 to 4GHz on max load if you've got slick tricks up your sleeve.

If you're spending over 200 bucks on low latency OC RAM, I don't see why you can't find enough money for a water cooling kit.

The 805 will destroy that Opteron in an OC battle and easily match an Athlon FX-62.

Tame the fanboys will ya, tweaking to the extreme requires thinking outside of what these damn AD-sponsored reviews can boast.

p.s. Installing custom modded heatpipes on water with an Asus board to draw heat from every aspect of the motherboard and combo'ing it with an Athlon FX60 will get you over 3GHz, speeds are good enough for Oblivion on an ATI crossfire setup, very high frame rates with XMS RAM.

I have an 805, do you ? You need watercooler ($250) and a great motherboard ($200+) and great memory and a big psu to hit 4 ghz+ on an 805, and you still have a flamethrower. Get an X2, or an opteron, and on stock air, it will match that 805@4.2 for total less money. Stop talking without knowing what you are saying, as you don't have one, and I do, and so does stevty, we know.

Im not running Water Cooling or a great motherbaord over $200 bucks
and my 805 isn't a flame thrower.

I'm running Abit NI8 ($50) 2x 1gb Corsair Value Select ($105) Arctic Cooling Freezer ($25)

and i'm at 3.8ghz, tested higher but decided to keep it at 3.8 since my house is not air conditioned.

And you aren't running at 4ghz+ either..that was kinda the point..3.8ghz is ~ the performance of a 2.4ghz X2, which is a lower end overclock.

 

[isekii]

and how much is the 2.4 ghz x2 chip ?

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: isekii
and how much is the 2.4 ghz x2 chip ?

~$295 at the moment for a 3800+ X2 which easily does 2.4ghz on stock cooling. Yes, makes it more difficult for some one on a budget, but if you can afford the 3800+ then I would go for it over the 805 any day. What are you load temps, have you even bothered checking for throttling? With 42c idle temps, and increased vcore, you could very easily be throttling at 3.8ghz. At 3.7ghz with the Scythe Ninja I'm hitting 57c load, 32c idle.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Originally posted by: isekii
and how much is the 2.4 ghz x2 chip ?

~$295 at the moment for a 3800+ X2 which easily does 2.4ghz on stock cooling. Yes, makes it more difficult for some one on a budget, but if you can afford the 3800+ then I would go for it over the 805 any day. What are you load temps, have you even bothered checking for throttling? With 42c idle temps, and increased vcore, you could very easily be throttling at 3.8ghz. At 3.7ghz with the Scythe Ninja I'm hitting 57c load, 32c idle.

I ran the Prime 95 Torture test for each cores and None of my chips ever went over 50.

 

[stevty2889]

What case are you using, and how many fans. Perhaps you have a suggestion for the guys in this thread, for the 2 guys with 8xx chips that are throttling..that and abit boards tend to read lower than actual temps, so you still should run throttlewatch, and S&M.

 

[isekii]

Antec P180
I have the Actic Cooling Freezer Blowing directly out into a 120mm fan to the top of the case which is direction exhausting the heat.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Jones2006
Go with the intel 805 and overclock it to 3.8+ ... it will outperform the opteron 165 check out the benchmarks at www.tomshardware.com

No it won't. 3.5 is the best I cna get, and thats common, unless you have watercooling and a big power supply, and good memory. Stevty has watercooling and he can only get 3.7 out of his.

I don't see why water cooling can't be an option if you're planning on OC'ing.
Air will take the 805 to 4GHz on max load if you've got slick tricks up your sleeve.

If you're spending over 200 bucks on low latency OC RAM, I don't see why you can't find enough money for a water cooling kit.

The 805 will destroy that Opteron in an OC battle and easily match an Athlon FX-62.

Tame the fanboys will ya, tweaking to the extreme requires thinking outside of what these damn AD-sponsored reviews can boast.

p.s. Installing custom modded heatpipes on water with an Asus board to draw heat from every aspect of the motherboard and combo'ing it with an Athlon FX60 will get you over 3GHz, speeds are good enough for Oblivion on an ATI crossfire setup, very high frame rates with XMS RAM.

I have an 805, do you ? You need watercooler ($250) and a great motherboard ($200+) and great memory and a big psu to hit 4 ghz+ on an 805, and you still have a flamethrower. Get an X2, or an opteron, and on stock air, it will match that 805@4.2 for total less money. Stop talking without knowing what you are saying, as you don't have one, and I do, and so does stevty, we know.

Im not running Water Cooling or a great motherbaord over $200 bucks
and my 805 isn't a flame thrower.

I'm running Abit NI8 ($50) 2x 1gb Corsair Value Select ($105) Arctic Cooling Freezer ($25)

and i'm at 3.8ghz, tested higher but decided to keep it at 3.8 since my house is not air conditioned.

And you aren't running at 4ghz+ either..that was kinda the point..3.8ghz is ~ the performance of a 2.4ghz X2, which is a lower end overclock.

Also, that motherboard is not $50. Is $99-$170, but not from any reputable etailer that I ever heard of; This is the best search I could find
I also doubt that it is not a flamthrower. I have one, and everyone here without watercooling knows it. Also, that memory is $148 at newegg. If you are that far off on prices, I can;t believe the rest of your post, sorry.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Jones2006
Go with the intel 805 and overclock it to 3.8+ ... it will outperform the opteron 165 check out the benchmarks at www.tomshardware.com

No it won't. 3.5 is the best I cna get, and thats common, unless you have watercooling and a big power supply, and good memory. Stevty has watercooling and he can only get 3.7 out of his.

I don't see why water cooling can't be an option if you're planning on OC'ing.
Air will take the 805 to 4GHz on max load if you've got slick tricks up your sleeve.

If you're spending over 200 bucks on low latency OC RAM, I don't see why you can't find enough money for a water cooling kit.

The 805 will destroy that Opteron in an OC battle and easily match an Athlon FX-62.

Tame the fanboys will ya, tweaking to the extreme requires thinking outside of what these damn AD-sponsored reviews can boast.

p.s. Installing custom modded heatpipes on water with an Asus board to draw heat from every aspect of the motherboard and combo'ing it with an Athlon FX60 will get you over 3GHz, speeds are good enough for Oblivion on an ATI crossfire setup, very high frame rates with XMS RAM.

I have an 805, do you ? You need watercooler ($250) and a great motherboard ($200+) and great memory and a big psu to hit 4 ghz+ on an 805, and you still have a flamethrower. Get an X2, or an opteron, and on stock air, it will match that 805@4.2 for total less money. Stop talking without knowing what you are saying, as you don't have one, and I do, and so does stevty, we know.

Im not running Water Cooling or a great motherbaord over $200 bucks
and my 805 isn't a flame thrower.

I'm running Abit NI8 ($50) 2x 1gb Corsair Value Select ($105) Arctic Cooling Freezer ($25)

and i'm at 3.8ghz, tested higher but decided to keep it at 3.8 since my house is not air conditioned.

And you aren't running at 4ghz+ either..that was kinda the point..3.8ghz is ~ the performance of a 2.4ghz X2, which is a lower end overclock.

Also, that motherboard is not $50. Is $99-$170, but not from any reputable etailer that I ever heard of; This is the best search I could find
I also doubt that it is not a flamthrower. I have one, and everyone here without watercooling knows it. Also, that memory is $148 at newegg. If you are that far off on prices, I can;t believe the rest of your post, sorry.

try Tiger Direct.

49.99 + ship

their prices have fluctuated from 49.99 - 69.99 this past month.

to the other person.

I ran the throttle monitor. No throttling detected