Intel AMD irony

[Banana]

Go join the Club for People Who Misuse the Term Irony, president Alanis Morrissette

 

[txxxx]

Wow - so this is what happens when the 14yr old has his PC moved to the living room , thus removing his abilities to raid his porn collection!

I hope parents over the world dont move the PC often!

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: PeteRoy


Does it look like saying AMD is inferior to Intel?

Originally posted by: PeteRoy

You shouldn't go for Athlon XP, it's inferior generation of processors

sure looks like it to me.


OWNED.



BTW, sign up sheet to get rid of this joker is in forum issues.

 

[PeteRoy]

That's in another topic Einstein.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: PeteRoy
That's in another topic Einstein.

so? you still said it.

 

[PeteRoy]

So? You take my words out of context.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: PeteRoy
So? You take my words out of context.

out of context? did i misread you? i think you clearly stated the athlon XP's were inferior chips. i dont know what context i should have taken those words in.

 

[PeteRoy]

It wasn't part of this topic. This topic was not ment to be Intel vs AMD like you trying to make it.

 

[imported_chrisbtx]

Originally posted by: nick1985
this may sound stupid, but i take pride in being an active member of the GH forums and i try my best to help people to pick out the best system for them. then you come along and spew these outlandish claims, and lies, and are misleading people horribly. you would fit in well at best buy, but not here. either post benchmarks to show me that prescotts are faster at gaming that A64's, and show me that AXP's are inferior, or leave.

HEY! Not funny! I work at Best Buy, and I'm far from an idiot who recommends one machine over another no matter what the person wants just because of my personal preference! I use Athlon 64 processors because I am a heavy gamer... works for me. Barely do encoding or much else for that matter other than the occasional Office document or internet surfing. If there's one thing I'm getting annoyed at, it's the friggin' people bashing BB just because they had bad experiences... we aren't all idiots, though I do admit there are one or two in my computer department..... :roll:

All in all, that's not a fair statement, basically comparing him to me. Do you see any posts like this from me? Didn't think so... to you! lol

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: chrisbtx

Originally posted by: nick1985
this may sound stupid, but i take pride in being an active member of the GH forums and i try my best to help people to pick out the best system for them. then you come along and spew these outlandish claims, and lies, and are misleading people horribly. you would fit in well at best buy, but not here. either post benchmarks to show me that prescotts are faster at gaming that A64's, and show me that AXP's are inferior, or leave.

HEY! Not funny! I work at Best Buy, and I'm far from an idiot who recommends one machine over another no matter what the person wants just because of my personal preference! I use Athlon 64 processors because I am a heavy gamer... works for me. Barely do encoding or much else for that matter other than the occasional Office document or internet surfing. If there's one thing I'm getting annoyed at, it's the friggin' people bashing BB just because they had bad experiences... we aren't all idiots, though I do admit there are one or two in my computer department..... :roll:

All in all, that's not a fair statement, basically comparing him to me. Do you see any posts like this from me? Didn't think so... to you! lol

you have my deepest sympathy.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: PeteRoy

Originally posted by: Sonic587

Enough trolling already. You like Intel processors. Whoopdedoo!. They have some great advantages, no doubt there. Just don't come in here spouting off FUD like this. We all know you started this thread to cause a massive flamewar. I mean, I'm sure the thousands of benchmarks on hundreds of websites are all slanted in AMDs' favor, right???:disgust:

Did you even read the first post I made? Does it look like saying AMD is inferior to Intel?

Read from beginning to end

I did not make this topic to start a flame war.

But fear not, as seeing the tone of posters in these forums I'll never make any topic here again knowing what kind of crowd posts here.

Originally posted by: PeteRoy
I don't know about anandtech, but from my own experience with both AMD and Intel, Intel is always better.

I think those posts answer your own question and prove how useless you are to this community.

I'm sorry but I have to agree with nick1985 here, you're spreading FUD constantly. I can't STAND intel fanboys. They usually don't go this far though. This is the first time I've seen someone post that the Prescott beats the A64 at gaming. :roll:

Seriously, why are you even on the forums to discuss things when you obviously have your own set opinions already? Are you an intel employee going undercover? I just don't get it. You're not posting anything remotely constructive, and you can't learn a thing on these boards with an attitude like yours.

 

[imported_chrisbtx]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: chrisbtx

Originally posted by: nick1985
this may sound stupid, but i take pride in being an active member of the GH forums and i try my best to help people to pick out the best system for them. then you come along and spew these outlandish claims, and lies, and are misleading people horribly. you would fit in well at best buy, but not here. either post benchmarks to show me that prescotts are faster at gaming that A64's, and show me that AXP's are inferior, or leave.

HEY! Not funny! I work at Best Buy, and I'm far from an idiot who recommends one machine over another no matter what the person wants just because of my personal preference! I use Athlon 64 processors because I am a heavy gamer... works for me. Barely do encoding or much else for that matter other than the occasional Office document or internet surfing. If there's one thing I'm getting annoyed at, it's the friggin' people bashing BB just because they had bad experiences... we aren't all idiots, though I do admit there are one or two in my computer department..... :roll:

All in all, that's not a fair statement, basically comparing him to me. Do you see any posts like this from me? Didn't think so... to you! lol

you have my deepest sympathy.

Hmmm... don't know if I should feel releived or not... I detected sarcasm there

I'm too tired to complain anymore anyways...... lol

 

[Psych]

Of course, this guy has only joined the forums 10 days ago as of now (July 6th, 2004). Everyone needs to be beaten in when they join, but perhaps this is a little too much?

Or maybe he (like me) loves starting flame wars! It's just so fun to see people attempting to reason with you on impossible topics and then they go off and try to insult me to death! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
BUT TOO BAD IT'S NOT FUNNY!

EDIT: Forgot to respond to topic, heh. HyperThreading makes a single processor act like 2. It was implemented because Intel found out that its architecture for the Pentium 4 caused it to waste a lot of instruction time, so they made use of it. HyperTransport is a technology that is being openly developed mainly by AMD and several other companies. Apple uses, by the way.

Everyone wants to claim that they have fast execution. Obviously. I believe Quantispeed is the name for the Athlon XP architecture akin to NetBurst. But don't quote me on that.

AMD uses SSE + SSE2 because Intel was seriously using it to their advantage when Athlon XP 2600+ were still expensive. There was a benchmark on this very site that showed the Intel instruction sets giving them a huge advantage.

 

[Anonemous]

Originally posted by: Psych
Of course, this guy has only joined the forums 10 days ago as of now (July 6th, 2004). Everyone needs to be beaten in when they join, but perhaps this is a little too much?

Or maybe he (like me) loves starting flame wars! It's just so fun to see people attempting to reason with you on impossible topics and then they go off and try to insult me to death! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
BUT TOO BAD IT'S NOT FUNNY!

Step one: Post inflammatory remarks.
Step Two: ???
Step Three: Become a Lifer in one day!

 

[Schadenfroh]

this thread has taken a one way dive to hell and is not coming back

/sits back for further fun

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: txxxx
Wow - so this is what happens when the 14yr old has his PC moved to the living room , thus removing his abilities to raid his porn collection!

I hope parents over the world dont move the PC often!

I was thinking along similar lines myself :beer:

 

[Yomicron]

Originally posted by: PeteRoy
Intel and AMD has some irony between them.

Some of the techonologies of AMD and Intel has very similar names.

1) Hyper-Threading and HyperTransport.

Now why AMD had to name their techonolgy a name so similar to Intel techonology?
Do they want to confuse people thinking they get Hyper-Threading?

HyperTransport technology was announced over a year and a half before Intel announced Hyper-Threading.

2) Advanced Dynamic Execution and QuantiSpeed

Both Athlon XP and the Pentium 4 documentation are talking about a "fast execution".

ADE and QS are just markeing terms for the implementations of various architectural imporvements, such as superscalar architecture, out-of order execution, branch prediction, etc...

These techniques are widely known and were (almost?) all implemented first by companies other than Intel and AMD.

3) Why AMD using SSE and SSE2?

Another irony is why AMD using Intel SSE and SSE2 techonologies?

I don't see any Intel cpu uses 3dnow extensions.

AMD implemented SSE and SSE2 because they are popular. 3DNow! is less popular and Intel decided it wasn't worth it to implement it.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Yomicron

Originally posted by: PeteRoy
Intel and AMD has some irony between them.

Some of the techonologies of AMD and Intel has very similar names.

1) Hyper-Threading and HyperTransport.

Now why AMD had to name their techonolgy a name so similar to Intel techonology?
Do they want to confuse people thinking they get Hyper-Threading?

HyperTransport technology was announced over a year and a half before Intel announced Hyper-Threading.

2) Advanced Dynamic Execution and QuantiSpeed

Both Athlon XP and the Pentium 4 documentation are talking about a "fast execution".

ADE and QS are just markeing terms for the implementations of various architectural imporvements, such as superscalar architecture, out-of order execution, branch prediction, etc...

These techniques are widely known and were (almost?) all implemented first by companies other than Intel and AMD.

3) Why AMD using SSE and SSE2?

Another irony is why AMD using Intel SSE and SSE2 techonologies?

I don't see any Intel cpu uses 3dnow extensions.

AMD implemented SSE and SSE2 because they are popular. 3DNow! is less popular and Intel decided it wasn't worth it to implement it.

Finally, someone answered his questions point by point, even if he is trolling. I love that he thinks AMD took hypertransport after Intel named Hyperthreading. Hilarious . AMD is part of consortium who developed hypertransport back at the beginning of the AMD64 development because they knew they were going to integrate their memory controller. I also see he never answered the point about Intel use the AMD64 instruction set. HMM. I wonder why? As far as gaming goes, every single person and every single review site I have ever seen, talked to and experienced [except for him] was faster on the AMD64 at comparable CPU ratings. I wonder if he realizes that AMD, I am pretty sure but not completely, has a patent on "hyperthreading". Please respond to my "intelligent" responses to your original thread please and I will endeavor to hold a rational dialogue based on historical fact and present prevailing opinion. thank-you

 

[Wahsapa]

ya seriously, honestly, what do you think this discussion was going to be about when you posted it peteroy? and if you answer me, please answer yomicron and michaelpatricks post first

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Stop posting.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

I want my 10 minutes back...

 

[sandorski]

Thread should be locked, OP should be warned or Banned.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Thread should be locked, OP should be warned or Banned.

ditto

 

[First]

Bah, what a waste of perfectly good bandwidth. Poor bandwidth, he was so young and innocent.

 

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