Intel and AMD say by 2015 We will have 128 core CPU's

videoclone

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Thats 10 years and i dont call that to unrealistic.

It sounds good to me. I would like to pick one of those babies up and hook it up to my 40" 3D Projection LCD Monitor And 1024 pipeline 10Gb Videocard. Overclocked to 8Ghz Core / 40Ghz Memory ^____^ weeeeee

Those specs are made up but in 10-15 years they wont sound very made up.

The Future will be something crazy for us all, and we are at the dawn of a new eara in computing technology .... Cant Wait.
 

Mik3y

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eh. comps will be very different then. there will likely be no transistors anymore either, and LCD's wont be utilized either.
 

forumposter32

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I saw the video of UT2007. There isn't much room for improvement over that. I mean, yeah, you can improve, but like...maybe UT2009 or UT2010 will be like the most detail you could have on the screen.
 

jazzboy

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Ok cool, but what about cranking up the actual speeds.

Sounds like intel and maybe amd will make a "more cores sells" market as opposed to the "more mhz sells" thing that is current.
 

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didnt intel say they would be hitting 10 gig by 2007 a few years ago?dont think its possible to predict what the future has in store
 

n7

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The whole more cores is better thing is ture, but it it's more marketing than anything else.

The fact of the matter is, many people will never ever need more than one core for what they use their PC for.

However, since AMD & Intel can't seem to actually figure out how to produce faster CPUs without just slapping on more cores, this is what we get

I just hope that multithreaded software becomes mainstream sooner than i know it will.

Don't get me wrong, i love my X2.

But really, until every software title is multithreaded (i'm guessing we're looking at close to 5 yrs. or more for that to be even close to happening), i see no need for quad-core or higher for the average user.
 

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My own predictions FWIW...

1. It'll be far more than 128 cores, more like 1024 cores
2. Clockspeed will increase exponentially (THz?)
3. The size of the chip will decrease drasticly (10% of current sizes?)
4. It will be manufactured using carbon nanotubes
5. AMD and Intel will be far behind IBM in the process (IBM is the current leader by far in nanogates)
6. Anand will succeed in his run for the Senate...
 

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IMO, I see things not getting too great like what has been mentioned, too fast. we're reaching a point where speeds bumps are getting rarer in CPU's, mainly because they aren't needed the same as most things easily run fast enough. Intel and AMD will thus likely try to focus on bringing in profits rather than needlessly spending on R&D; it's not as if applications are crying out for more power, like they were at the turn of the century.

There's no doubt I'd like to see things as fast as people suggest, but I like to set my sights lower, and this way be happier if they do surprise me with amazing new core designs that offer huge performance increases.
 

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[The fact of the matter is, many people will never ever need more than one core for what they use their PC for.

However, since AMD & Intel can't seem to actually figure out how to produce faster CPUs without just slapping on more cores, this is what we get ]

I don't understand why, if you think most people don't need more than one core, you think most people do need faster chips?

The fact is that anyone using Windows will benefit from multiple cores. If you could snap your fingers right now and replace every business Windows user's 2 Ghz. CPU with 2 1Ghz. CPUs damn near every one of them would be happier.
 

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Originally posted by: n7
The fact of the matter is, many people will never ever need more than one core for what they use their PC for.
"If you don't think too good, don't think too much."

Got a video card in that machine? Guess what - that's a 2nd "core". And in fact that "core" is designed for a high degree of parallel processing, which is why they've been advancing so fast of late. But I guess you don't need that, so you should just take it out. Sound card? Isn't that another "core"? Been following the news about the new "physics processing unit"? Guess what - that's another "core". Multi-core does not imply that every core must be identical, or do the exact same things...
 

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Originally posted by: Viditor
My own predictions FWIW...

1. It'll be far more than 128 cores, more like 1024 cores
2. Clockspeed will increase exponentially (THz?)
3. The size of the chip will decrease drasticly (10% of current sizes?)
4. It will be manufactured using carbon nanotubes
5. AMD and Intel will be far behind IBM in the process (IBM is the current leader by far in nanogates)
6. Anand will succeed in his run for the Senate...

what about the flying cars?

 

Fallengod

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Originally posted by: govtcheez75
Originally posted by: Viditor
My own predictions FWIW...

1. It'll be far more than 128 cores, more like 1024 cores
2. Clockspeed will increase exponentially (THz?)
3. The size of the chip will decrease drasticly (10% of current sizes?)
4. It will be manufactured using carbon nanotubes
5. AMD and Intel will be far behind IBM in the process (IBM is the current leader by far in nanogates)
6. Anand will succeed in his run for the Senate...

what about the flying cars?



What about a computer core that TURNS INTO a flying car?!?!?!?!
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: modempower

Originally posted by: govtcheez75
Originally posted by: Viditor
My own predictions FWIW...

1. It'll be far more than 128 cores, more like 1024 cores
2. Clockspeed will increase exponentially (THz?)
3. The size of the chip will decrease drasticly (10% of current sizes?)
4. It will be manufactured using carbon nanotubes
5. AMD and Intel will be far behind IBM in the process (IBM is the current leader by far in nanogates)
6. Anand will succeed in his run for the Senate...

what about the flying cars?



What about a computer core that TURNS INTO a flying car?!?!?!?!

BINGO!
 

Monkey muppet

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Originally posted by: modempower

Originally posted by: govtcheez75
Originally posted by: Viditor
My own predictions FWIW...

1. It'll be far more than 128 cores, more like 1024 cores
2. Clockspeed will increase exponentially (THz?)
3. The size of the chip will decrease drasticly (10% of current sizes?)
4. It will be manufactured using carbon nanotubes
5. AMD and Intel will be far behind IBM in the process (IBM is the current leader by far in nanogates)
6. Anand will succeed in his run for the Senate...

what about the flying cars?



What about a computer core that TURNS INTO a flying car?!?!?!?!


A Flying car you ask?
 

TheoPetro

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Originally posted by: Monkey muppet
Originally posted by: modempower

Originally posted by: govtcheez75
Originally posted by: Viditor
My own predictions FWIW...

1. It'll be far more than 128 cores, more like 1024 cores
2. Clockspeed will increase exponentially (THz?)
3. The size of the chip will decrease drasticly (10% of current sizes?)
4. It will be manufactured using carbon nanotubes
5. AMD and Intel will be far behind IBM in the process (IBM is the current leader by far in nanogates)
6. Anand will succeed in his run for the Senate...

what about the flying cars?



What about a computer core that TURNS INTO a flying car?!?!?!?!


A Flying car you ask?

i was just about to go find that link but ya beat me to it
 

redhatlinux

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Its absolute nonsense to say that Intel and AMD can't figure out how to make faster cpu's. They can, do you have $5K to spend on a cpu. The issue is bang for the $. Multi-cores are very useful. Many applications simply have no use or benefit from from multi-threading. The application has to be analyzed and essentially rebuilt to allow for multiple threads. Single user applications benefit little by having multiple threads. Sure the spell checker in word could run as a thread. The most use that a mulicore processor has is for multiple applications.
 

Socio

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Currently neither Intel or AMD can break the 4GHz barrier and keep them stable, both have tried that is why change in direction to dual core and multi core CPUs. Unless something changes the fastest dual core and multi cores will 3.8GHz.

Likewise GPUs are starting to top out and we will see more advanced SLI and or dual/muli core GPU graphic cards in the future instead of faster single GPU cards.
 

n7

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Bah, you guys are so thick, & so quick to flame!
My comment was meant in sarcastic jest, as the emoticon was to suggest :roll:


Also, when i said most people don't need more than a single core CPU, i was not talking about video card & sounds cards, ffs :roll:

Until the normal appz like Word & one's browser become multithreaded, having dual-core for those who use their PC for just the basics won't make sense.

I don't even know why i am trying to explain my post to you flamers.

I guess i have to remember sarcasm doesn't work well over teh internet. *sigh*
 

Viditor

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Originally posted by: n7

But really, until every software title is multithreaded (i'm guessing we're looking at close to 5 yrs. or more for that to be even close to happening), i see no need for quad-core or higher for the average user.

Actually, for single apps you would be correct. But it's not just multithreaded apps that are aided by multicores, it's also multitasking.
 

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The problem is that many tasks are single-threaded tasks. Those tasks that are parallel, eventually run out of work for multiple cores to do. In the supercomputing world, the solution is simple: devise a bigger problem to solve. That solution does not work in the real world for most people on PCs.
 

Markbnj

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[The problem is that many tasks are single-threaded tasks. Those tasks that are parallel, eventually run out of work for multiple cores to do. In the supercomputing world, the solution is simple: devise a bigger problem to solve. That solution does not work in the real world for most people on PCs.]

What do you mean by this? The workload is not a batch. It is an interactive event-driven workload. If you follow this logic then you could argue that no automobile needs more than 45 horsepower, because that is enough to get it to freeway speeds. The point is not whether there is always work to do, but how responsive the system is when there is more instantaneous demand than one CPU can handle. This happens constantly under Windows or any other time-slicing operating system. Don't confuse this with percent processor utilization. Even when the processor is utilized at low levels it can still only run one set of instructions at a time. With a single core no two apps can have processor cycles at the same time. With more than one core, they can. That means a more responsive system.

I have well over 100 threads running on my system now. Let's say I have 100 of them. If I have 100 cores, then that system will be as responsive to load as it can possibly be at the rated speed of the processor. One less core will make it less responsive, as two threads will contend for processor cycles at some point. Yes, that difference will be very small in this theoretical case, but the difference between one processor and two is not small at all. On average it means half the amount of thread contention as in a single core system, and half the context switches.

Context switches are very expensive in terms of processor cycles. All the registers have to be swapped, along with any thread-local memory mappings. If the context switch is between two processes, then memory mappings always have to be swapped.

All this arguing that multiple processors don't benefit an ordinary Windows user verges on silly. In general, the average Windows user will have a smoother computing experience with two 1 ghz processors as opposed to one 2 ghz processor. For games this wouldn't hold, but when the speed differential narrows to a few hundred mhz. dual cores catch up fast, and provide better response.
 

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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: n7

But really, until every software title is multithreaded (i'm guessing we're looking at close to 5 yrs. or more for that to be even close to happening), i see no need for quad-core or higher for the average user.

Actually, for single apps you would be correct. But it's not just multithreaded apps that are aided by multicores, it's also multitasking.

I'd love to have an X2 so I can encode DV AND edit .wav's at the same time. With an "X4", I'd be able to encode DV, record audio, mux video and audio for home-made DVDs and play a game without much lag. Now, someone is going to say "Not everyone encodes DV and edits .wav's at the same time". True. Just like now, not everyone needs an Athlon 64 or a P4 so they have Semprons and Celerons. Personally, I see no need for more than a P3 for the average user (surfer, typer, chatter, little gaming)... How fast do you really need your characters to show up on the screen when typing?!?
 

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Originally posted by: 2kfire
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: n7

But really, until every software title is multithreaded (i'm guessing we're looking at close to 5 yrs. or more for that to be even close to happening), i see no need for quad-core or higher for the average user.

Actually, for single apps you would be correct. But it's not just multithreaded apps that are aided by multicores, it's also multitasking.

I'd love to have an X2 so I can encode DV AND edit .wav's at the same time. With an "X4", I'd be able to encode DV, record audio, mux video and audio for home-made DVDs and play a game without much lag. Now, someone is going to say "Not everyone encodes DV and edits .wav's at the same time". True. Just like now, not everyone needs an Athlon 64 or a P4 so they have Semprons and Celerons. Personally, I see no need for more than a P3 for the average user (surfer, typer, chatter, little gaming)... How fast do you really need your characters to show up on the screen when typing?!?

Some things that multicore will allow J6P to do with single threaded apps...
How about running an antivirus scan all the time in the background?
What about running a PVR that is sent to your TV in timeslip mode, while you're doing your office work?
What about using Skype while playing BF2?
What about a combination of all the above?
 
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