Intel Broadwell Thread

[Abwx]

I'm sure I can find more:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37138795&postcount=1692

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=37190202&highlight=#post37190202

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36983664&postcount=1237

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37190325&postcount=1870

You can find as much as you want actualy since it s obvious that you re not even understanding what you are quoting, nowhere it is said that i said that Haswell is more efficient in all the above, i dont bother even answering each exemple, as it s either bad faith of yours, like the first quote used without context (another lie, by omission), or it s plain unability to understand technical discourses.

 

[Edrick]

Enough bickering.

Can someone tell me when these will hit retailers like Newegg? I want to replace my 4770 with the 5775C

 

[dahorns]

You can find as much as you want actualy since it s obvious that you re not even understanding what you are quoting, nowhere it is said that i said that Haswell is more efficient in all the above, i dont bother even answering each exemple, as it s either bad faith of yours, like the first quote used without context (another lie, by omission), or it s plain unability to understand technical discourses.

Honestly, I read your posts the same way he did. You may have meant something different, I can easily guess what it is, but that really isn't a lie or omission on his part, is it? Language barriers are tricky, and I think this is an instance of it coming into play.

 

[Abwx]

Honestly, I read your posts the same way he did. You may have meant something different, I can easily guess what it is, but that really isn't a lie or omission on his part, is it? Language barriers are tricky, and I think this is an instance of it coming into play.

Actualy i stated numerous time my estimation of the perf/Watt difference between HW and BDW is 10-15% at most advantage for the latter.

So it s not like one need to interpret my other sayings about other matters to know my estimations about this precise metric, it s just that there s some people that mandate others to post only things that please them, check the pages where i questioned the improbable overclocks...

 

[Phynaz]

am i constantly spreading infos that end being wrong later..?.

Yes.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Enough bickering.

Can someone tell me when these will hit retailers like Newegg? I want to replace my 4770 with the 5775C

I think they're "officially" launched as of now/a few days ago. Major e-tailers should get them in quantity in a week or two, tops?

 

[yacoub]

The Broadwell desktop review article wasn't very useful to me as someone running an i5 Ivy Bridge CPU and wondering how much performance gain these new Broadwell-H chips offer over Ivy Bridge, and whether it's worth the upgrade. Or, better still, when Skylake finally arrives, whether it'll be "good enough" to upgrade to a discounted Broadwell setup at that time vs a premium-priced Skylake setup.

 

[Dufus]

Can someone tell me when these will hit retailers like Newegg? I want to replace my 4770 with the 5775C

Some sellers in NZ. Price without GST ~USD420, with GST ~USD500.

http://computerone.co.nz/product/intel/m04197

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

What I'm wondering about is: are we going to see a Thinkpad T450p using the new Broadwell quads, or is Lenovo going to go straight to a T460-series with the whole Skylake family?

At this point I think it'd be smarter to skip BDW-H entirely for the performance market, even if it means no T450p model, given how soon SKL-H is coming and how it's expected to be released along with the U and Y-series.

Still using a T500 here, and I love it to bits but it's just too slow for Gentoo compiles

 

[justanotherboy]

Still using a T500 here, and I love it to bits but it's just too slow for Gentoo compiles

You can use distcc with a better machine for compiling; a RAM disk for temp files also helps a lot.

 

[MrTeal]

You can use distcc with a better machine for compiling; a RAM disk for temp files also helps a lot.

Heh, that gives me an idea for a dream Skylake MB. If both MCs can be active at the same time, four DDR4 slots for main system RAM, and two DDR3 slots so I can reuse my 16GB of DDR3 for a RAM disk.

 

[crashtech]

An i7 T520 can be found for less than $450, it's probably what I would move to from a T500 for compiler use. Sandy Bridge is still pretty stout, and fairly cheap.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

I am lusting after whatever the Skylake version of the i7-4910MQ happens to end up being called...basically, the top 4c/8t mobile Skylake that doesn't have a ridiculous TDP. Alternatively, the SKL equivalent of the 4722MQ, because a quad with a ~35W TDP in a 13" 1080p system would be my dream machine.

 

[Abwx]

Lol.......

Intel gives cashback on Core i7-5775C and i5-5675C

https://translate.google.fr/transla...erbase.de/2015-06/broadwell-h-intel-cashback/

 

[mikk]

http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/4401...s-intel-broadwell-core-i7-5775c-voor-desktops


Haven't seen CB 11.5 OpenGL and Catzilla results of Iris Pro 6200 yet. Here I found it.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Confirms that BDW GT3e parts are ~2x the performance of HSW GT2. Quite disappointing because you need to pay at least $270 plus tax for one.

Back in the pre-"APU" days I could pair best iGPU board with the cheapest Intel CPU.

With the pricing they have now BDW GT3e should have been 2x faster than HSW GT3e. Skylake GT4e's 50% improvement should have been what BDW GT3e aimed for.

 

[Sweepr]

PU.

With the pricing they have now BDW GT3e should have been 2x faster than HSW GT3e. Skylake GT4e's 50% improvement should have been what BDW GT3e aimed for.

Lol. They priced it the same as the older BGA Haswell GT3e parts, if not cheaper (especially at launch). Looking at ARK prices Broadwell-K costs around $20-30 more than boxed Devil's Canyon.
Haters kept telling for many years that Intel graphics were mediocre and would never catch up to the competition, now that they've got a decent product it's all about laughable excuses and switching goalposts to prices.
You might have missed the discussion but most users agreed that this product is expensive compared to cheaper CPUs coupled with dGPUs if all you want is gaming on a budget. The point is, compared to regular GT2 parts the extra price for GT3e and eDRAM is not bad at all (people who said Intel wouldn't price them similar to smaller die parts were wrong again). You can still buy GT2 Haswell or Skylake parts if you're going dGPU from the start. Intel is pushing a new niche here (top notch mainstream CPU+iGPU performance), and they might improve it in the next iterations.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Confirms that BDW GT3e parts are ~2x the performance of HSW GT2. Quite disappointing because you need to pay at least $270 plus tax for one.

Back in the pre-"APU" days I could pair best iGPU board with the cheapest Intel CPU.

With the pricing they have now BDW GT3e should have been 2x faster than HSW GT3e. Skylake GT4e's 50% improvement should have been what BDW GT3e aimed for.

Your comment about the price makes no sense. It is only 40.00 more than Haswell gt2 for twice the igpu performance. Very reasonable actually.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Your comment about the price makes no sense. It is only 40.00 more than Haswell gt2 for twice the igpu performance. Very reasonable actually.

It's $40 when you compare it to equivalent class CPU which are paired with discrete parts. The thing is discrete parts that are paired are much faster so it justifies having that performance on the CPU.

At the performance level the Iris Pro equipped CPUs are at, the graphics is the bottleneck, not the CPU.

It would as some people say, make sense as a Core i3 part. I know there are people who need good CPU performance too, but to say its $40 outright is not entirely correct either. HD 4600 is justified because you see it in the really cheaper parts.

Haters kept telling for many years that Intel graphics were mediocre and would never catch up to the competition, now that they've got a decent product it's all about laughable excuses and switching goalposts to prices.

Many people say many different things. In terms of whether it makes sense as a value gaming system, no it doesn't. And the performance level is at value gaming system.

That is not to say people won't buy them, but its a niche category. Back with Geforce 4 Ti, they said biggest sellers were the Ti 4200 and the Ti 4600. The Ti 4400 sold in fractions of the two other parts. Iris Pro is a "Ti 4400".

 

[iSkylaker]

The i7-5775C now listed on Amazon for a price tag of $449.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA0U2
The i5-5675C - 349.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA1CE

 

[ClockHound]

The i7-5775C now listed on Amazon for a price tag of $449.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA0U2
The i5-5675C - 349.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA1CE

And they're very confident on delivery too - since they have an established fulfillment schedule: "Usually ships within 2 to 4 weeks. "

Not many user reviews - are you sure this is a trustworthy product? ;-)

 

[ShintaiDK]

The i7-5775C now listed on Amazon for a price tag of $449.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA0U2
The i5-5675C - 349.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA1CE

Amazon price grouge to the extreme.

In europe the 5775C sells for 330euro (368$) without VAT.
http://geizhals.eu/intel-core-i7-5775c-bx80658i75775c-a1275291.html

While the 5675C sells for around 250euro without VAT.
http://geizhals.eu/intel-core-i5-5675c-bx80658i55675c-a1275321.html

 

[dark zero]

The i7-5775C now listed on Amazon for a price tag of $449.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA0U2
The i5-5675C - 349.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YAEA1CE

DOA by far.. people will go to Skylake then.

 

[PPB]

Amazon price grouge to the extreme.

In europe the 5775C sells for 330euro (368$) without VAT.
http://geizhals.eu/intel-core-i7-5775c-bx80658i75775c-a1275291.html

While the 5675C sells for around 250euro without VAT.
http://geizhals.eu/intel-core-i5-5675c-bx80658i55675c-a1275321.html

Intel has a tight enough reseller relations to let their products be price gouged in amazon. Wonder why you cite prices without VAT tho, afraid to show they are dabgerously close to what the amazon prices tell?

Amazon price grouge to the extreme.

In europe the 5775C sells for 330euro (368$) without VAT.
http://geizhals.eu/intel-core-i7-5775c-bx80658i75775c-a1275291.html

While the 5675C sells for around 250euro without VAT.
http://geizhals.eu/intel-core-i5-5675c-bx80658i55675c-a1275321.html

 

[Edrick]

Damn, I want one of these but I'm not paying $449.