Intel Broadwell Thread

[myocardia]

So you just buy fifteen $100 processors instead :awe:

No! He buys thirty $50 processors.

 

[moonbogg]

The price is very high, but I dont see that as the main problem. The main problem I see is what will be the use for the chip? I think even hex core will be more than sufficient for games at least through this console generation. So maybe for some productivity apps, but would not most go the full bore server route for such heavily threaded software? And I cant believe you will not have to sacrifice some overclocking headroom with the 10 core. If it were clearly superior in games, I can see users being willing to pay that price, but I dont think it will be.

The core count is getting pretty high, and like you said, for that price and for the expected needs of such a user, going Xeon probably makes more sense. But I can see the 10 core filling both roles pretty decently. Not the best gaming CPU and not faster than a many core Xeon for productivity, but kind of in the middle for decent performance in both cases.
Also, if games scaled almost linearly with CPU cores, I could be willing to save my pennies a little longer and buy a beast like this. It would still be hard to justify at such an expense but at least it would be possible. Justifying it now from my perspective is currently impossible.

 

[ozzy702]

In terms of long term lifespan. I think Haswell will be the lower bar. Fast caches and AVX2/FMA3 and you are set. Anything below and you fall out.

AVX512 is server only so no need to worry about that, assuming it would be useful.

When you talk about fast caches, I know that Skylake has fast cache but how are Haswell and Broadwell in comparison?

I'm running a 3770k @ 4.3ghz and am starting to feel the pull for a new system for a couple of reasons.

1) I'd like more cores.

2) I'd like more sata ports without resorting to an add on card.

3) I'd like to run an M.2 SSD.


My conundrum is that I don't "need" to upgrade and could probably hold out for Skylake-e but a 6-core Broadwell setup with the potential down the line to snag an 8-10 core cpu for cheap like I did on 1366 is quite tempting.

 

[Sweepr]

New single-thread performance king and highest clocked x86 CPU in town (stock):

Xeon E5-2602 v4, Broadwell-EP, 4C/8T, 5.1GHz (default clock), 10MB L3, 165W TDP

Before you get too excited, this is an OEM-only server chip. Still, nice to see Intel is able to push these clocks at 14nm if they want to.

 

[NTMBK]

New single-thread performance king and highest clocked x86 desktop CPU in town (stock):

Xeon E5-2602 v4, Broadwell-EP, 4C/8T, 5.1GHz (default clock), 10MB L3, 165W TDP

Before you get too excited, this is an OEM-only server chip. Still, nice to see Intel is able to push these clocks at 14nm if they want to.

I'll take two please.

 

[crashtech]

Yeah, we can only hope that the unlocked Broadwell-E comes from the same bin, haha.

 

[Sweepr]

I'll take two please.

Two of them in dual-socket fashion for 8C/16T at 5.1GHz would be pretty neat.

 

[VirtualLarry]

New single-thread performance king and highest clocked x86 CPU in town (stock):

Xeon E5-2602 v4, Broadwell-EP, 4C/8T, 5.1GHz (default clock), 10MB L3, 165W TDP

Before you get too excited, this is an OEM-only server chip. Still, nice to see Intel is able to push these clocks at 14nm if they want to.

Interesting that it's not just 5Ghz, it's 5.1Ghz! It goes to 11!

 

[Nothingness]

Wouldn't that be the first time a real Xeon has higher clocks than the desktop counterparts?

If confirmed that'd be extremely impressive but such a jump in frequency looks very dubious.

 

[Sweepr]

Wouldn't that be the first time a real Xeon has higher clocks than the desktop counterparts?

Actually no:

Intel quietly ships 4.4 GHz Xeon X5698

In the middle of last year, when Intel produced pre-production parts for the next refresh of Xeon 5600-series, they also made several quite interesting Xeon samples. The most distinguishing feature of these chips was very high clock frequency. Even the slowest Xeon microprocessor from that group was clocked at 4 GHz, and the fastest one reached 4.66 GHz. One of these samples made into production, and started shipping earlier this year. The processor was released as Xeon X5698, and, at 4.4 GHz, it's the fastest Intel production CPU ever.

www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011031101_Intel_quitely_ships_4_4_GHz_Xeon_X5698.html

 

[Nothingness]

Very interesting! That makes it more plausible. Thanks

 

[Burpo]

http://wccftech.com/intel-rumored-l...ocessor-broadwellep-lineup-features-165w-tdp/

 

[Arachnotronic]

New single-thread performance king and highest clocked x86 CPU in town (stock):

Xeon E5-2602 v4, Broadwell-EP, 4C/8T, 5.1GHz (default clock), 10MB L3, 165W TDP

Before you get too excited, this is an OEM-only server chip. Still, nice to see Intel is able to push these clocks at 14nm if they want to.

The real value to enthusiasts is that the BDW-E chips will probably be VERY good overclockers.

 

[crashtech]

Think there will be new, updated X99 boards with Broadwell-E's release?

 

[III-V]

Looks like Intel sorted out their variability issues. Good stuff.

 

[AtenRa]

What TDP is that 4C8T XEON at 5.1GHz ??

 

[Arachnotronic]

What TDP is that 4C8T XEON at 5.1GHz ??

165W.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Does it come with a nuclear reactor PSU?

 

[NTMBK]

Looks like Intel sorted out their variability issues. Good stuff.

Nah, they're just binning like crazy for a super low volume NSA special.

 

[Sweepr]

Just curious, can Intel release >95W CPUs in their LGA 115X sockets?
I would love a 4.5GHz Kabylake-S, even if it's a special edition part. Maybe they won't need more than 95W to hit these clocks 1 year from now.

Does it come with a nuclear reactor PSU?

Next to AMD's 220W power-hogs it still looks power-efficient.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Next to AMD's 220W power-hogs it still looks power-efficient.

Do remember that this 165 W is on 14 nm, not 32 nm!

 

[crashtech]

Do remember that this 165 W is on 14 nm, not 32 nm!

We see silver linings, you see clouds, oh well. Your point is academic, though, not only is TDP not representative of real power consumption, but there is nothing to compare this CPU to, it's in a class by itself. So what if it's 14nm, it takes power to drive chips beyond 5GHz, period. There's no one out there that can prove otherwise at this time.

 

[jpiniero]

Actually no:

www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011031101_Intel_quitely_ships_4_4_GHz_Xeon_X5698.html

Yeah, those were golden samples/overclocked that Intel sold to Hedge Funds to do HFT. Perhaps these 5.1 Ghz models are the same deal?

Keep in mind that Intel didn't even bother to put the 4.4 Xeons on Ark, so the volume of these things is tiny.

 

[Nothingness]

Definitely sexy: a machine with i7-5775C / E3-1285L v4 with no fan at all!

http://airtop-pc.com/

I wonder what the price is.

 

[AtenRa]

165W.

Thanks