Sure looks like the 35 W M line is dead. The 28 W U line pretty much replaces it.
What about normal voltage non-Y / non-U laptop Broadwell series?
Are they coming? If so when? Or they like desktops are omitted and there is Haswell->Skylake transition planned?
Sure looks like the 35 W M line is dead. The 28 W U line pretty much replaces it.
HTWingnut said:Yeah it kind of sucks. My Sony Vaio Pro 11 can actually perform decently but the iGPU throttles like crazy, so while it could game, there can be massive FPS spikes, and the CPU isn't even that hot, less than 70C. It seems to me that they way underrated the TDP. The Intel "U" CPU's should probably be more like 25W than 15W to perform as needed.
This user has managed to bring his 15W power limit towards 20W with temps below 76C resulting in following bench scores.Fabians said:Unhappy with the severe tdp throttling of my X1 (4550U) under continuous stress
AnandTech said:
28W with GT3, Iris 6100 Graphics (48 Execution Units)
15W with GT3, HD 6000 Graphics (48 Execution Units)
15W with GT2, HD 5500 Graphics (23 Execution Units for low i3, 24 for others)
15W with GT1, HD (Broadwell) Graphics (12 Execution Units)
‘DirectX 12 Ready’ is somewhat of an interesting case, and it depends on Microsoft’s final specifications. At this point in time Intel state that they conform to as much of DirectX 12 feature set that they can get their hands on with their relationship with Microsoft, and barring any major addition or change, should be compatible. UHD-4K is also now supported through the HDMI 1.4b interface, albeit limited to 24 Hz.
For Broadwell, Intel has reduced the number of EUs in a sub-slice from 10 down to 8. This is a big change, as it eases up the Thread Dispatch, Data Port and L1/L2 samplers in each EU as they have to deal with less data overall. By this logic, with two equivalent designs, one with 8 EUs per sub-slice should be able to get through more data due to less data bandwidth pressure and less competition for each sub-slice’s shared local memory.
In our conference call with Intel, it was clear that these CPUs are shipping to their partners today. Throughout CES there will be a number of manufacturers announcing their products, and as per the norm Intel allows the partners to introduce their own products, rather than showing examples of where Broadwell-U fits in. However, because Broadwell-U is designed to be pin-compatible with Haswell-U, we might see some manufacturers purely re-releasing some of their designs with the newer CPU and a firmware update. Nevertheless, Intel is expecting OEM systems with Broadwell-U to start shipping in North America within the month. Designs with Iris graphics, or those featuring Intel based WiGig connectivity, will be more towards the end of Q1. Overall Intel is tracking ‘hundreds of designs’ involving Broadwell, indicating that it will be a significant push to bring 14nm to the market.
Some models have 1 EU disabled.
A bit strange that they're talking about DX12 ready, while Maxwell simply supports DX12 and Haswell already supports DX12 too. Also interesting that they disable 1 EU <= i3.
@witeken - i dont think they disabled a EU for i3s. like mentioned in AT article, it must be for selling defective chips
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8831/intel-shipping-14nm-cherry-trail
has anyone seen any specifications released on cherrytrail? all i am seeing is this vague writeup.
Cherry Trail is a quadcore SoC consisting of 2.7GHz 14nm Airmont (slightly upgraded Silvermont) cores and 16 Gen8 EUs (2 sub-slices), presumably clocked higher than a fanless system can dissipate.
It would have been a great SoC in 2014, but now with Mobile Maxwell, not so exciting anymore.
Answering some of my own questions.I'm a little confused about the GPU specs.
What does this mean practically for those of us who don't game?
1) Do I really get HEVC H.265 decode acceleration of say 4K material even on lower end SKUs? I don't really need 4K since it's superfluous for me, but nonetheless 4K material is starting to trickle out and I'd like to be able to play it. It's similar to the situation before where I was using 720p screens, but wanted good 1080p AVC H.264 support so I didn't have to pick and choose my video sources.
2) What about external Retina monitor support? Can I run a 22" 3840x2160 screen with no lag?
3) Do these SKUs make sense if I want to buy a Retina MacBook Pro, but with a smaller form factor than the current MacBook Pros? Think 13" MacBook Air size, but with MacBook Pro power and Retina, with long battery life. I realize there is also the rumoured 12" MacBook Retina, but I'm getting the impression it will replace the Airs, and if so, maybe in some way will be crippled.
so vs the 3770 we can expect 13% improvement in turbo clock + ~5% on ipc ~18% on total cpu peak performance.
4x gpu EUs (2/3 of core m). how could performance be there.
If i look at this
core m y70 is getting 21350
I'd be wary of making too many conclusions based on that chart.
Notebookcheck's review of the 5y10 has it getting 39,000 in Ice Storm Standard, and nearly 46,000 for graphics.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Venue-11-Pro-7140-Convertible-Tablet-Review.133634.0.html
I definitely would appreciate the bandwidth savings H.265 would bring.Answering some of my own questions.
1. Some Googling seems to suggest that because of Broadwell's rudimentary H.265 support, 4K is out of the question, at least for lower end SKUs.
2. 2160p60 is supported even on the Broadwell U line, although only with 1 monitor.
Intel will get my dream come true faster.
My dream is a 45W TDP cpu that can drive all videocard of its time(as a example, a 45W Haswell i7 driving with zero bottleneck a R9295x2)...
Also, GT3 seams to be close to 65% of the die area. Well, we should start calling that a iGPU with two CPU cores.
GPU with iCPU?