I didn't say that. You are invited to read my post again if you really want to have a dialogue.
I didn't say that. You are invited to read my post again if you really want to have a dialogue.What would lead us to believe Broadwell-K should have better overclocking potential than 4770K?...
How could you possibly know that?This is not a 4770k replacement and I'm pretty sure it's not even an i7. And if it is, it's only because of the Iris Pro/unlocked. This is not the high-clocked DT part.
How could you possibly know that?
Compare SNB and IVB TDPs.Even Anandtech thinks its not an i7:
"Normally the high end SKUs from Intel are 77W to 85W, suggesting that this component may not in actual fact be an i7, or it could be an Iris Pro part but using one of the low power monikers such as S. "
It was an unlabeled, unlocked 65w broadwell part with Iris Pro graphics. Wccftech is the only site saying it's broadwell "k". And they do that just to get headlines. There was no official information or labels on the demonstration chip. They just assumed it. Intel announced this alongside the official Devil's Canyon announcement last spring.
Why would Intel announce a broadwell-k i7 at the same time as the new (at the time) Devil's Canyon i7? They didn't. This will be a specialized part, not the high end k i7's. It will be most likely be am i5 or if it is labeled an i7, it will only be because of Iris pro and not the cpu bin. And it will fit in between Skylake-K at the high end and whatever it is at the low end. I think too many people are assuming and inferring waay too much and the information is all out there. Do you really think Intel will have a high-end broadwell-k and skylake-k out at the same time? And the simplest answer is no, its a 65w part.
Even Anandtech thinks its not an i7:
"Normally the high end SKUs from Intel are 77W to 85W, suggesting that this component may not in actual fact be an i7, or it could be an Iris Pro part but using one of the low power monikers such as ‘S’. "
It was an unlabeled, unlocked 65w broadwell part with Iris Pro graphics. Wccftech is the only site saying it's broadwell "k". And they do that just to get headlines. There was no official information or labels on the demonstration chip. They just assumed it. Intel announced this alongside the official Devil's Canyon announcement last spring.
Why would Intel announce a broadwell-k i7 at the same time as the new (at the time) Devil's Canyon i7? They didn't. This will be a specialized part, not the high end k i7's. It will be most likely be am i5 or if it is labeled an i7, it will only be because of Iris pro and not the cpu bin. And it will fit in between Skylake-K at the high end and whatever it is at the low end. I think too many people are assuming and inferring waay too much and the information is all out there. Do you really think Intel will have a high-end broadwell-k and skylake-k out at the same time? And the simplest answer is no, its a 65w part.
Even Anandtech thinks its not an i7:
"Normally the high end SKUs from Intel are 77W to 85W, suggesting that this component may not in actual fact be an i7, or it could be an Iris Pro part but using one of the low power monikers such as S. "
"Normally the high end SKUs from Intel are 77W to 85W, suggesting that this component may not in actual fact be an i7
Exactly.The slide that you linked specifically states that it's an unlocked product.
Hopefully you're aware that all unlocked Intel CPU's thus far have been a 'K' model.
Have more common sense text time.
The slide that you linked specifically states that it's an unlocked product.
Hopefully you're aware that all unlocked Intel CPU's thus far have been a 'K' model.
Have more common sense text time.
It was an unlabeled, unlocked 65w broadwell part with Iris Pro graphics. Wccftech is the only site saying it's broadwell "k".
Why not? They don't compete at all. There are plenty of us with DDR3 or Z97 builds looking to upgrade. I know I'm personally not ready to go to DDR4 at twice the cost of DDR3.Do you really think Intel will have a high-end broadwell-k and skylake-k
I'm also waiting to see if Skylake is as huge of a jump as Intel claims it's going to be (Nehalem to Sandy Bridge big).
The wireless focus is absolutely awesome for mobile users. And the mobile market has obviously shown itself to be the current leader. So that's a win-win for both Intel and consumers.Do you mean that Intel has said that Skylake is "its most important chip architecture in a decade"?
But I wonder what exactly that means. It does not have to be performance improvements that they are talking about. From what I've heard, Intel has said that "wireless" is the main focus for Skylake. That being wireless charging, wireless display and such. Depending on who you ask, that could also be considered very important upgrades.
Exactly.
So nobody thinks the sharing of a 65W TDP with the 4770R is anything more than a coincidence?
It appears that the unlocking of the multiplier is a very small bone being thrown to the enthusiast, other than that it would appear to be a low TDP chip for BRIX and NUC etc.
Why not? They don't compete at all. There are plenty of us with DDR3 or Z97 builds looking to upgrade. I know I'm personally not ready to go to DDR4 at twice the cost of DDR3.
On a side note, the only reason I even upgraded from X58 to Z97 was because it was a complete wash after selling my i7-950 and X58A-UD5. For me, the worst case scenario (assuming there is no Broadwell-K), is that I go with a 4790k...which at the rate of CPU advancement right now, will easily last quite a while.
I'm also waiting to see if Skylake is as huge of a jump as Intel claims it's going to be (Nehalem to Sandy Bridge big).
The G3258 I'm running is just a placeholder, a toy even, that was free with my motherboard.You 'upgraded' from a i7 950 to dual core pentium? Are you serious?........ In case you're not, that's a serious downgrade.
Why on earth wouldn't you wait for Broadwell-K to be released so you could read the reviews etc, before gambling that Broadwell-k would be released and be superior to the 4790k?
I thought my point was pretty clear, and as I said, after selling my old parts last year right before X99 released, this upgrade literally cost me nothing. Everything else is recycled, including my DDR3 (which is why I didn't go with X99). The other option was to pickup an old Xeon to use in my X58 setup, but PCI Express 3.0, SATA 6Gbps and USB 3.0 more than made the move to Z97 worthwhile.
CBN wanted an unlocked BGA Carrizo. Looks like Intel beat AMD to the punch, again, if BDW-K / Iris Pro is unlocked.
Either my point has gone over your head, again, or for some reason you have taken offense to my decision to use a FREE G3258 as a TEMPORARY toy while I wait for Broadwell-K to pan out...in an upgrade to Z97 that had ZERO NET COST.Going from a i7 quadcore to a dual core pentium is in no way an upgrade.
By now most people would struggle with a dual core in day to day activities, though if you're just checking your email/browsing then I can see why you have no issues. Try playing a modern game such as Dying Light, or BF4, encoding video, the performance will be horrible.
Had you asked for advice on forums etc, waiting for Skylake (since Skylake will be a big improvement over haswell, and won't be compatible with Z97) or just going ahead with a 4790k would have been the common sense option.
Going from a i7 quadcore to a dual core pentium is in no way an upgrade. Yes you get the new chipset features, though you loose alot of performance.
If you think it's justifiable waiting over a year for a product that might not even be that great, then power to you. By now most people would struggle with a dual core in day to day activities, though if you're just checking your email/browsing then I can see why you have no issues. Try playing a modern game such as Dying Light, or BF4, encoding video, the performance will be horrible.
Had you asked for advice on forums etc, waiting for Skylake (since Skylake will be a big improvement over haswell, and won't be compatible with Z97) or just going ahead with a 4790k would have been the common sense option.