Intel Broadwell Thread

[Dave2150]

http://intelstudios.edgesuite.net/computex/2015/index.html

Many thanks

 

[jj109]

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-core-i7-5775c-i5-5675c-broadwell,review-33215.html

TL;DR: Nvidia and AMD better watch out...

 

[Lalilulelo]

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-5...rocessors-launched-computex-14nm-desktop-pcs/

Oh My

 

[asendra]

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-5...rocessors-launched-computex-14nm-desktop-pcs/

Oh My

Wow, and Skylake was the one that supposedly had bigger iGPU gains right?
I'm seriously looking forward to Skylakes rMBPs with Iris Pro "7200" now.

 

[Head1985]

Some benchmarks from pcgameshardware.de
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Broad...775C-i5-5675C-Iris-Pro-Graphics-6200-1160517/

3.7Ghz and its same/faster than 4.4Ghz haswell in games.Also its cost more.

 

[jj109]

The 128MB of L4 is really bringing up the minimum framerates in that PCGH review.

Too bad the launch doesn't seem very well coordinated. Hopefully when the tech press wakes up we'll have more detailed reviews.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Thats some impressive improvements.

Broadwell Iris Pro is the king. Almost reaching GTX750 performance. And Skylake GT4 will expand from 48 to 72 EUs plus improvements.

 

[NTMBK]

Thats some impressive improvements.

Broadwell Iris Pro is the king. Almost reaching GTX750 performance. And Skylake GT4 will expand from 48 to 72 EUs plus improvements.

Plus Skylake gets DDR4, so performance hit from falling out of eDRAM should be reduced.

 

[Arachnotronic]

:thumbsup: Great iGPU performance from Broadwell Iris Pro. +50% with Skylake Iris Pro should make for one heck of an HTPC chip.

 

[CHADBOGA]

:thumbsup: Great iGPU performance from Broadwell Iris Pro. +50% with Skylake Iris Pro should make for one heck of an HTPC chip.

Isn't Haswell already an excellent HTPC chip?

With the kinds of GPU improvements we are seeing here, Skylake becomes a decent gaming chip for those with limited budgets.

 

[Sweepr]

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-5...rocessors-launched-computex-14nm-desktop-pcs/

Oh My

Some benchmarks from pcgameshardware.de
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Broadw...-6200-1160517/

3.7Ghz and its same/faster than 4.4Ghz haswell in games.Also its cost more.

Very impressive chip, finally a worthy desktop CPU+iGPU combo by Intel.

That's some low power consumption.

Kaveri got completelly outclassed, much better CPU and iGPU performance at lower power by Broadwell-K. Despite the price difference, it's pretty amazing to see Intel leading desktop iGPU performance by a fairly respectable margin (some people told us this would never happen). Oh, and there's faster CPU performance than FX9590 too, at 65W. Honestly better than I expect, bodes well for Skylake-GT4e too.

Despite the clockspeed difference Core i7 4790K is less than 10% faster in CPU-intensive tasks, Broadwell cores with improved IPC + huge eDRAM make up for most of the clock defficit. Broadwell-K will be easily faster with a minor OC, this coupled with the much better iGPU makes it the better chip in my book. Any overclocking results yet?

 

[CHADBOGA]

Skylake i3's & i5's are really gonna do terrible damage to AMD's desktop market share, maybe even Broadwell will go close to wiping them out.

There isn't going to be anywhere for AMD to hide.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Again, just like AMD, the problem on the desktop is that except for a small form factor, a cheap cpu plus discrete will still offer better performance for equal, or in intel's case less, cost. What they need to do is make iris pro standard across the mobile line. A quad core with gt3e or 4e could perhaps make a decent low/mid range gaming laptop.

 

[dahorns]

So, the reviews gave little consideration to the fact that these are unlocked parts. It'll be really interesting to see how fast they can be pushed.

 

[trivik12]

I wish 15" MBP came up with broadwell since they just released. If Skylake releases as planned in the slide we saw recently then these mobile cpus(H) will be the shortest lived cpus. Worse than even Presler or Yonah.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I wish 15" MBP came up with broadwell since they just released. If Skylake releases as planned in the slide we saw recently then these mobile cpus(H) will be the shortest lived cpus. Worse than even Presler or Yonah.

Yeah, the rMBP refresh would have been more compelling if it had one of these Broadwell-H chips.

Oh well.

 

[Sweepr]

AnandTech article is out:

The Intel Broadwell Desktop Review: Core i7-5775C and Core i5-5765C Tested (Part 1)

The results of our look at iGPU gaming are clear: Broadwell-DT takes the iGPU performance crown from AMD's APUs. The advantage will vary with the game, but with an average lead of 20% and never once falling behind AMD's APUs, the i5-5675C and its Iris Pro 6200 are clearly the faster option. Ultimately nothing here should be a surprise to AMD - what's changed is not the existence of Iris Pro, but rather the fact that it now comes in a socketed form factor - but for system builders this represents a new option for building a system driven solely by its iGPU.

Once again low power consumption numbers, nice gains from desktop Haswell.

The benefit of the graphics package, Iris Pro 6200, means that Broadwell-DT takes the crown as the fastest socketed graphics available. Our testing showed that the even the second-tier socketed SKU, the i5-5675C, outgunned the previous title holder, AMD’s A10-7870K. Despite having the i7-5775C in to test, due to time and firmware issues, we were unable to run the numbers on the integrated graphics but will do so in a later piece.

www.anandtech.com/show/9320/intel-broadwell-review-i7-5775c-i5-5765c

 

[coercitiv]

What they need to do is make iris pro standard across the mobile line.

For once I wish they would abuse their dominant position and force gt3e down OEMs throats. Meanwhile I'd love to see some analysis on the effects of that cache on CPU performance&power consumption in typical consumer loads.

 

[dark zero]

First at all, hello guys. This is my first time on the forum... but I read this forum for at least 6 months.

Now to the topic:

Needless to say, AMD is totally screwed up BIG TIME. They got outclassed in EVERYTHING.
But also nVIDIA is about to get outclassed too!...

I am referring that Intel managed to reach GTX750 levels with normal clocks.
So...with a good overclock, they will reach GTX760 levels.

AMD has nothing to compete at least in desktop... their only chance is in laptop.
And despite with that, I feel that only they will win against the U Tier (who is still pretty bad until now).

And about Skylake... I am fearing that for now there are not Core i3 and below chips in desktop and laptop tier... Intel is preparing something... seems that the lowest tier of users will get royally screwed by them too for now. All the products seems to point to the higher tiers... maybe Intel is preparing Goldmont to compensate that?

And now about their graphics... I feel that using eDRAM on Skylake goes up to GTX 960 tier... maybe in Cannonlake, when they might start to use HBM, they will reach GTX 980 levels? If that so...

This is the true last move from AMD AND nVIDIA... if they fail to fully outclass Intel, is a game over for them.

 

[coercitiv]

Any overclocking results yet?

 

[AtenRa]

First at all, hello guys. This is my first time on the forum... but I read this forum for at least 6 months.

Welcome,

Needless to say, AMD is totally screwed up BIG TIME. They got outclassed in EVERYTHING.
But also nVIDIA is about to get outclassed too!...

Core i5 5675C MSRP = $267

A10-7870K = $137

I am referring that Intel managed to reach GTX750 levels with normal clocks.
So...with a good overclock, they will reach GTX760 levels.

Not even close to 750 according to the AT review.

AMD has nothing to compete at least in desktop... their only chance is in laptop.

A8 and A10 Kaveri/Godavari is very competitive against Haswell Core i3 both in CPU and especially in iGPU performance at the same or lower price.

This is the true last move from AMD AND nVIDIA... if they fail to fully outclass Intel, is a game over for them.

For the price of the Core i5 5675C alone, you can get a Athlon 860K/Core i3 + GTX960/R7 280.

 

[Sweepr]

Even a lowly Skylake GT2 Gen 9 should close the gap considerably with Kaveri when it comes to graphics. I'm expecting 2C+GT2 Skylake in late Q3, not later than Q4. Quads are right around the corner.

 

[birthdaymonkey]

First at all, hello guys. This is my first time on the forum... but I read this forum for at least 6 months.

Now to the topic:

Needless to say, AMD is totally screwed up BIG TIME. They got outclassed in EVERYTHING.
But also nVIDIA is about to get outclassed too!...

I am referring that Intel managed to reach GTX750 levels with normal clocks.
So...with a good overclock, they will reach GTX760 levels.

If you're referring to the Tom's review:

Be careful. It's extremely misleading to imply that the Broadwell graphics is anywhere near as powerful at a GTX750. Note that in the fine print at the top of the graph, they indicate that the systems with discrete GPUs used an Athlon 860K, which is probably a significant CPU limitation at low settings + 720p. If you compared Broadwell integrated graphics with a machine running a Broadwell CPU + a GTX750, the iGPU would get destroyed, especially if you turned up the resolution and graphics quality to something reasonable.

I don't get why Tom's would publish such a crappy, misleading comparison.

It might also be worth noting that a GTX760 nearly doubles the performance of the 750. Maybe in 4-5 years there will be an iGPU with that level of performance, but it's not even close currently.

 

[jj109]

Yeah you should be careful about reading things, or you might miss important information like this:

We also paired the fastest graphics card in this line-up with Intel’s Core i7-5775C to ensure host processing isn't limiting performance. As it turned out, the average frame rate didn't increase much compared to our machine with an AMD CPU. However, the minimum frame rate jumped quite a bit to 45 FPS.

 

[BD231]

Any overclocking results yet?

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-5775c-broadwel-reach-5-ghz-oc-on-air.html