Intel Broadwell Thread

[Arachnotronic]

Im talking about 10W TDP or bellow, 2+1 Broadwell at that TDP will be inferior to Quad Core ATOM CherryTrail.

Oh, gotcha.

 

[Qwertilot]

And - given the price differentials - it does of course only have to be 'not terrible' in comparison to make you wonder. Oh well

 

[dahorns]

A Venue 11 Pro with the 5y71 has appeared on geekbench. 2500 single, 4400 multi core.

 

[North01]

A Venue 11 Pro with the 5y71 has appeared on geekbench. 2500 single, 4400 multi core.

Here's a link for anyone interested.

Geekbench 3.1.5 Tryout for Windows x86 (32-bit)
Single-Core Score: 2539
Multi-Core Score: 4406

 

[jdubs03]

Here's a link for anyone interested.

That score is good for x86 performance and an older version, not 3.2.3. but good find.

 

[North01]

That score is good for x86 performance and an older version, not 3.2.3. but good find.

Here's a score, running version 3.2.2 (64-bit), for the Dell Venue 11 Pro 7140 with a 5Y10: Link

Geekbench 3.2.2 for Windows x86 (64-bit)
Single-Core Score: 2180
Multi-Core Score: 4506

The most recent versions of the Dell Venue 11 Pro 7140 use either a 5Y10C or a 5Y71.

 

[imported_Thorburn]

Managed to get hold of an HD 5500 (i5-5200U) based Acer laptop and put it up against my HD 4400 one (i5-4210U).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcuFne2kBoc

Improvement is 18% in Unigine Heaven. Will be trying running more stuff over the weekend.

 

[dahorns]

Managed to get hold of an HD 5500 (i5-5200U) based Acer laptop and put it up against my HD 4400 one (i5-4210U).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcuFne2kBoc

Improvement is 18% in Unigine Heaven. Will be trying running more stuff over the weekend.

Probably should note min and max fps.

HD 4400:
Min=14.7
Max=49.5
Score=738

HD5500:
Min=8.3
Max=65.6
Score=871

 

[III-V]

Huh, wonder what's going on with the min? Throttling?

 

[NTMBK]

Huh, wonder what's going on with the min? Throttling?

My money is on drivers. New graphics arch, early days.

 

[AtenRa]

Probably should note min and max fps.

HD 4400:
Min=14.7
Max=49.5
Score=738

HD5500:
Min=8.3
Max=65.6
Score=871

What is the System Memory for both ??? Single 1600MHz ??

 

[imported_Thorburn]

Huh, wonder what's going on with the min? Throttling?

I make note of it in the video - its just on one of the scene changes it takes a little longer to load in things and records a low number on a black screen. It varies from run to run.

Both systems running 2 x 4GB DDR3-1600 and in dual channel mode.

 

[imported_Thorburn]

Some more videos in case they are of interest to anyone.
3DMark Ice Storm (HD 5500 vs. HD 4400): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdKlyCy7ZwY
3DMark Cloud Gate (HD 5500 vs. HD 4400): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TdzFPztkQc
F1 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGSN4J5IyLA
Minecraft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXFy5yAdZ7M
The Sims 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojv7uh_ALrk

Gaming performance against HD 4400 seems to roughly correlate to the tests. Some gain very little, others see up to about 20% improvement.

 

[alcoholbob]

Excited for the 28W+ Broadwells. The Dell XPS 13 looks interesting but that HD5550 is still about what, 20-30% slower than a HD4600? I'd say an HD4600 is about the minimum I could take for gaming DOTA/Diablo/MOBA/F2P games so I guess either Broadwell S/K whatever is called will be my next laptop upgrade. Was hoping it would be out by 2014, oh well.

 

[imported_Thorburn]

Bit of a demonstration of how performance scales with TDP - Core M 5Y10c vs. i5-5200U in GRID Autosport. Same 2+2 die, similar GPU base and max frequency speeds, but near linear scaling in performance with TDP increase.

http://youtu.be/lPTXrFMY690

 

[imported_Thorburn]

Excited for the 28W+ Broadwells. The Dell XPS 13 looks interesting but that HD5550 is still about what, 20-30% slower than a HD4600? I'd say an HD4600 is about the minimum I could take for gaming DOTA/Diablo/MOBA/F2P games so I guess either Broadwell S/K whatever is called will be my next laptop upgrade. Was hoping it would be out by 2014, oh well.

Gave Dota 2 a go - 1080p and the default (fairly low) detail settings runs reasonably well, but not a solid 60fps.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tN-r1dBm3U

 

[bullzz]

matches 7570M in far cry 2. not bad. hd6000 performance should be good

http://hothardware.com/reviews/dell-xps-13-2015-ultrabook-hothardwares-full-review?page=9

 

[imported_Thorburn]

matches 7570M in far cry 2. not bad. hd6000 performance should be good

If HD 5000 vs. HD 4400 is anything to go by then it'll be slower than HD 5500.

 

[Sweepr]

Bit of a demonstration of how performance scales with TDP - Core M 5Y10c vs. i5-5200U in GRID Autosport. Same 2+2 die, similar GPU base and max frequency speeds, but near linear scaling in performance with TDP increase.

http://youtu.be/lPTXrFMY690

Is that your channel? I've been following it since the first Bay Trail videos (I've posted some in Bay Trail/Cherry Trail's thread), great work, gives a good idea of gaming with Intel IGPs. Looking forward to some Cherry Trail gaming videos in a few months.

 

[imported_Thorburn]

Is that your channel? I've been following it since the first Bay Trail videos (I've posted some in Bay Trail/Cherry Trail's thread), great work, gives a good idea of gaming with Intel IGPs. Looking forward to some Cherry Trail gaming videos in a few months.

Yep, always nice to have some positive feedback.

Always find it frustrating reading reviews of such systems where they insist on testing them at completely unrealistic resolutions and detail settings, then bemoan the lack of performance. Its surprising what you can play even on Bay Trail.

The only real disappointment has been Core M - I've not got my Transformer Book T100 at the moment (parents borrowed it for a road trip and have neglected to return it) so I can't do a direct comparison at the moment, but I'd wager in some scenarios it could outpace Broadwell-Y...

 

[bullzz]

@imported_Thorburn - why would hd6000 be slower than hd5500. hd5000 was on average 15% better performing than hd4400

 

[imported_Thorburn]

@imported_Thorburn - why would hd6000 be slower than hd5500. hd5000 was on average 15% better performing than hd4400

Not in my experience/testing. Greater number of units at lower clock speeds seems less efficient for Haswell-U in the majority of tests I've run.

 

[moonbogg]

I'm way out of the loop. Is broadwell expected to be a decent upgrade over haswell?

 

[dahorns]

Dell just released a bios update for the Venue 11 Pro 7140 (Core-M):

Enhancements
-Support "Lid Switch" option in BIOS setup.
-Improve touch function on McAfee Preboot Authentication Screen.
-Improve system performance with new thermal setting.
-Improve HDD password function.
-Improve Travel keyboard battery charging function.

Not sure what they mean by new thermal settings, but I thought it was worth posting here. If anyone gets a chance to run benches after the update, it would be interesting to see if there is any difference.

 

[III-V]

I'm way out of the loop. Is broadwell expected to be a decent upgrade over haswell?

For what? Mobile? Yes. Desktop? It's only got a ~5% IPC boost, but I personally believe it'll clock a bit higher.