Arachnotronic
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What model is your mobo and are you using the iGPU? Could be worth buying one identical to yours rather than going SKL. Thanks.
That model motherboard only supports DDR3.
Ahhhhh, when I read that Arachnotronic was going to replace his Broadwell chip with a SKL one, I assumed it must have been DDR4 we were dealing with.Broadwell-C is DDR3
Well, there's a lot of work that you have to do to scale those things up, and get better yields too. It's way more important on a bigger die like that.Uhm, Broadwell cores are Broadwell cores. There's no "Broadwell (mainstream) core" and "Broadwell-E (server) core". At least, I don't think so, other than possibly the server cores are getting AVX512. (Not sure if that was new in the server cores in BDW or SKL.)
Other than that little thing, they are the same basic core, with the same execution units, registers, etc.
Selective presentation of facts. That doesn't, at all, rebut what I wrote. Your point would be fine if Skylake cores weren't already being sold.Broadwell-E is a direct upgrade over Haswell-E which is already on the market.
Yes, it ain't. : )Yes, it ain't Skylake
As one would with Skylake E.but you can get more Cores (Or better, Dual Processors), PCIe Lanes and RAM Capacity out of it.
Skylake's core advantages aren't very relevant to gaming so that actually weakens your point.Not everything is gaming.
Skylake E is better than Broadwell E because it has superior cores.And as a platform, Broadwell-E is much, much more wide. If money was no issue, I would pick it over Skylake.
What's subpar logic is appealing to tradition because it's fallacious. Intel can do it wrong every generation but that doesn't affect the fact that Broadwell E is already obsolete before it hits the market because Skylake cores are more advanced than Broadwell cores.You're basically saying every HEDT chip has been a downgrade, as the HEDT has always been at least one generation behind the consumer DT parts.
Horrible logic.
Intel can do it wrong every generation but that doesn't affect the fact that Broadwell E is already obsolete before it hits the market because Skylake cores are more advanced than Broadwell cores.
You gutted out my Post to mostly say that? LOL. Selective quoting for presentation of facts, too.As one would with Skylake E.
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Skylake E is better than Broadwell E because it has superior cores.
Such as?Selective quoting for presentation of facts, too.
That's just Tenks' appeal to history fallacy again. As I said, Intel can do it wrong every generation but that doesn't make what I wrote incorrect.Sit waiting for a year or more and you will have Skylake-E. When that happens, Skylake-E will already be obsolete because you will have Cannonlake on consumer platforms
Skylake cores are improved. They are on the market now. How are those facts exaggeration?You're grossly over-exaggerating to the point of laughability.
So you're saying Skylake offers nothing that makes it an upgrade? I think you're the one exaggerating.Haswell-E was competitive to DT SKylake and Broadwell-E will be even more so.
Yes. In computing, particularly given the very small IPC improvements Intel has been providing since Sandy, improved integer performance (Skylake's main improvement) is important.Do you even know what the definition of obsolete actually means?
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I gave up trying to logically reason with this poster long ago. No matter what you say or how logical the rebuttal, he just repeats the same mantra over and over. It is like when you are trying to talk to someone and they just cover their ears and go la la la la instead of listening to you.
It bothers me that we value people's emotions over the factual integrity of their statements. I feel as though moderation in these types of places shouldn't care so much about personal attacks.I gave up trying to logically reason with this poster long ago. No matter what you say or how logical the rebuttal, he just repeats the same mantra over and over. It is like when you are trying to talk to someone and they just cover their ears and go la la la la instead of listening to you.
It bothers me that we value people's emotions over the factual integrity of their statements. I feel as though moderation in these types of places shouldn't care so much about personal attacks.
Thanks!! Good price too.
Intel Xeon D family of x86-based systems on a chip was expanded today with a new flagship chip, dubbed D-1571. Xeon D line of processors targets microservers and storage markets, and it employs the same "big cores" as their more powerful Xeon siblings. Particularly, Xeon D-1500 series makes use of Broadwell 14nm microarchitecture, which supports all latest x86 extensions. Up to this moment the fastest in the series was the D-1541, which had 8 CPU cores and 12 MB L3 cache. New D-1571 SoC doubles the number of cores to 16, albeit running at 35% lower clock rate. The D-1571 also has twice larger level 3 cache.
In short, specifications of the D-1571 chips are: 16 CPU cores, 1.3 GHz clock speed, 24 MB last level cache, 45 Watt TDP and support for Hyper-threading feature, which allows the CPU to run 32 threads at once. The SoC is likely to support Turbo Boost technology, but we do not have information on the maximum boost speed yet. The official price of the D-1571 is $1222.
That 16C Xeon D makes me wet.
BTW, didn't noticed that there are Pentium D based on that platform. Anyone knows if they are found in the wild yet? Would like to see how much a Motherboard with them cost.