I would be careful to conflate a company's investment prospects with its technology.
Intel remains a solid investment because they are very investor-focused - they care more about returning good dividends and driving high EPS. And they are still seeing growth as well.
That does NOT mean they have better products, just more fiscally efficient products from an investor's point of view.
Making the assumption that because investors like Intel, that means their products must be good, is completely misguided.
Yup. AMD might have better desktop and server processors right now, but Intel is still currently the king of mobile processors at the moment. They probably sell more of those than they do of anything else. AMD will eventually surpass them in that space as well unless they get their act together, but it buys them time.
Renoir already has surpassed Intel's best mobile chips in almost every way. . .
Fixed your previous post to reflect what you are now talking about:It's not really showing up in the popular product lines yet, though. If you get a new Macbook Pro or a Dell XPS, it's still going to have an Intel processor in it. My favorite laptop line has always been the Lenovo Thinkpad T series (although I'm mostly an Apple laptop user now), and those are all Intel powered as well.
You are welcome.Yup. AMD might have better processors right now, but Intel is still currently the king of OEM devices at the moment.
Well, maybe I am wrong, we will see. This has to be to most insane statement out out Intel, or any other major manufacturer I have ever seen.
If you are using it at home, there is little reason to worry about any of the exploits. You can use https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm to turn them off and regain most of that lost performance.I partially agree with their statement, however the evidence is firmly anti-intel.
I have a highly overclocked 5960x with super tweaked ram and high end NVM-e drives. After the Spectre and meltdown firmware and software patches came out, my system is horrifically and inconsistently stuttery and laggy just opening folders, launching applications, etc.
I have been able to run no benchmarks to show this newfound lack of snappiness - before the SHTF, it was magically fast and responsive. Almost as if the computer started doing what you asked before you even asked for it.
Given I can't prove any of this via benchmarks but it's incredibly obvious from a user experience standpoint, I think it would be a great idea for reviewers to include a section about user experience. However, I do not agree this should replace benchmarks, but compliment them.
You must have been sleeping in the entire first 5 months of 2020. Renoir launched and Intel is not the king of mobile processors anymore. They sell more than AMD from EVERYTHING, while being technically left behind. Mobile is no exception.Yup. AMD might have better desktop and server processors right now, but Intel is still currently the king of mobile processors at the moment. They probably sell more of those than they do of anything else. AMD will eventually surpass them in that space as well unless they get their act together, but it buys them time.
Don't forget HEDT, AMD rules that as well. And most likely when Zen 3 comes out, they will rule gaming, their last bastion of performance.You must have been sleeping in the entire first 5 months of 2020. Renoir launched and Intel is not the king of mobile processors anymore. They sell more than AMD from EVERYTHING, while being technically left behind. Mobile is no exception.
If you are using it at home, there is little reason to worry about any of the exploits. You can use https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm to turn them off and regain most of that lost performance.
If you are using it at home, there is little reason to worry about any of the exploits. You can use https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm to turn them off and regain most of that lost performance.
You must have been sleeping in the entire first 5 months of 2020. Renoir launched and Intel is not the king of mobile processors anymore.
You must have been sleeping in the entire first 5 months of 2020. Renoir launched and Intel is not the king of mobile processors anymore. They sell more than AMD from EVERYTHING, while being technically left behind. Mobile is no exception.
It's absolutely settled for me, I just tend to react posts as I read them, and many times they're already answered / resolved over the next pages - or sometimes even the next few postsAMD might have the fastest mobile processors now, but it doesn't really matter if you can't buy a laptop with one installed from your favorite manufacturer. This isn't like desktop gaming PC's, where you can easily build your own from with parts from Newegg or Amazon.
My wife's new laptop has a Ryzen 5 processor in it, but it's a lower cost plastic case model. If I want something sturdier like a Macbook Pro or Lenovo T series, those are still all Intel based.
Link? If true, just goes to prove what I have been saying all along about all the "Intel cant compete with Apple" bashing. Apparently AMD cant either.It sounds like Apple is going to start making their own ARM based processors in 2021, so I doubt that we'll ever see a Mac product with a AMD processor in it.
It sounds like Apple is going to start making their own ARM based processors in 2021, so I doubt that we'll ever see a Mac product with a AMD processor in it.
Hopefully one can install Windows/Linux on it and is not stuck with OSX. On the other hand i doubt, that Apple will provide Windows or Linux drivers.
OSX is pretty unixy so Linux is kind of redundant.
next is gonna be AMD Lisa Su says WPrime is pointless.
Might as well come out as say that SuperPi mod 1.5 xs is pointless.
actually i was thinking of that, and got Wprime confused. lol...
And for this slide Intel's marketing appear to have read... a book.
I see nothing wrong with comparing different laptop models at different prices even if they have different GPUs. If someone is after performance then he/she will choose whats faster and cheaper. In the comparisons Intel made, they're just that.Well, it was fun while it lasted: Intel faces criticism for comparing gaming laptops with different GPU models
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