Intel "Coffee Lake" Builders Thread

[crashtech]

What was I thinking, as if I could buy an 8700K without being glued to my PC, refreshing pages, etc. I'm going to wait until stock is good.

 

[elhefegaming]

What was I thinking, as if I could buy an 8700K without being glued to my PC, refreshing pages, etc. I'm going to wait until stock is good.

next year then

 

[Flacco]

Turns out my local microcenter hasn't even gotten any 8700k chipps. They only had an i5 non k

 

[crashtech]

next year then

Maybe... Luckily I have no real need, just a burning desire, lol.

 

[Glo.]

Intel is back in business. 8700k is a fantastic product . Massive ST and gaming perf lead over Ryzen 7/5 and very competitive MT against the 1800x even beating it out in few benchmarks . Intel's 8400 is winning comprehensively against R5 1500X and beating R5 1600 in ST and gaming. Right now Intel's biggest challenge will be to meet the demand for 8700k. All hail the new mainstream king - 8700k.

Why does it always have to be AMD vs Intel or AMD vs Nvidia? Why cannot we discuss products, as they are?

 

[pjmssn]

Microcenter has the 8700K for ... $499!!!!

http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=8700k

 

[pjmssn]

It looks like it is store pick up only and, I checked Houston's store and it is sold out. This is a very frustrating launch, I am considering picking up a 1800x at $349 from MicroCenter...

 

[Aikouka]

Hm, I wonder if getting the 8700 would've been the better idea rather than waiting for an 8700k. I don't really overclock, and even if I did, Turbo Boost can already take it to 4.7 (4.6 non-K). People say the max on the 8700k is about 5GHz, so there's about a 10% difference between the non-K's theoretical max and the K's overclocked theoretical max.

Hm, so based on Anandtech's numbers, without an OC, both 8700 chips will behave quite similarly when using about 4-6 cores:

(src: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11859/the-anandtech-coffee-lake-review-8700k-and-8400-initial-numbers )

I bought the Asus mITX. It actually has 2 M.2 slots. One on the front and one on the back. That's why I bought it over the ASROCK.

I was looking for that since hiding the slots under a heatsink seems to be the "cool" thing to do, but I didn't see any text on the board or any indication of a slot. I probably should've just checked the stats or the manual instead of trusting my aging eyes!

 

[Zucker2k]

Microcenter has the 8700K for ... $499!!!!

http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=8700k

Damn, the 8700k is so *hot* even Microcenter can't help but turn greedy overnight. Lawd!

 

[Arachnotronic]

Damn, the 8700k is so *hot* even Microcenter can't help but turn greedy overnight. Lawd!

It's just good business on Microcenter's part, although a $100+ markup is pretty extreme and tells you what kind of supply they've got

 

[Keblerelf04]

My backorder with CDW-G got moved back further. I'm sure there is pent up demand but retailers moving backorder dates even further definitely adds another straw to the low supply/low yield thought.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I put my order in at Newegg, it is a backorder. A little annoying that even at $379 (modest gouge) that they basically are on backorder, but now it's just a matter of waiting for my chip to arrive.

This will give me a good opportunity to sell the components that the 8700K will be replacing

 

[Zucker2k]

To be honest, time to put in personal calls to Santa, guys. Looks like it's gonna be Christmas before we get to play with these chips. Save up and build that killer machine during the holidays is what I'm thinking.

 

[raghu78]

Why does it always have to be AMD vs Intel or AMD vs Nvidia? Why cannot we discuss products, as they are?

Any product is always discussed with respect to the competition Eg : Apple A11 vs Snapdragon 835 , Vega 64 vs GTX 1080, 8700k vs R7 1800X . These new Intel CPU products do not exist in a void today like they did in the past 5 years from 2011-2016 when AMD did not have anything interesting in the CPU market. More importantly when there was no competition Intel never gave a product worth discussing in terms of a big improvement over previous gen. 8700k is the first CPU from Intel since the 2600k which has got everyone excited about upgrading. Its no surprise that the Coffelake launch has been pulled in because of the stiff competition. So if not for the competition you might have got the 8700k sometime in H1 2018. So yes we can discuss products as they are without referencing the competition but thats the individual's choice not yours.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Any product is always discussed with respect to the competition Eg : Apple A11 vs Snapdragon 835 , Vega 64 vs GTX 1080, 8700k vs R7 1800X . These new Intel CPU products do not exist in a void today like they did in the past 5 years from 2011-2016 when AMD did not have anything interesting in the CPU market. More importantly when there was no competition Intel never gave a product worth discussing in terms of a big improvement over previous gen. 8700k is the first CPU from Intel since the 2600k which has got everyone excited about upgrading. Its no surprise that the Coffelake launch has been pulled in because of the stiff competition. So if not for the competition you might have got the 8700k sometime in H1 2018. So yes we can discuss products as they are without referencing the competition but thats the individual's choice not yours.

This is the CFL builder's thread, so I'd like to ask: Are you going to be building a CFL system? If so, which model will you be going with and what motherboard/RAM will you be going with? What are you currently running in your system?

 

[Zucker2k]

Any product is always discussed with respect to the competition Eg : Apple A11 vs Snapdragon 835 , Vega 64 vs GTX 1080, 8700k vs R7 1800X . These new Intel CPU products do not exist in a void today like they did in the past 5 years from 2011-2016 when AMD did not have anything interesting in the CPU market. More importantly when there was no competition Intel never gave a product worth discussing in terms of a big improvement over previous gen. 8700k is the first CPU from Intel since the 2600k which has got everyone excited about upgrading. Its no surprise that the Coffelake launch has been pulled in because of the stiff competition. So if not for the competition you might have got the 8700k sometime in H1 2018. So yes we can discuss products as they are without referencing the competition but thats the individual's choice not yours.

On the reverse logic, we could've gotten these chips earlier too, but someone was not competitive for like ten whole years, and we're supposed to be grateful all of a sudden? Intel's 10nm process is more responsible for this (in a negative way), and not AMD.

 

[Glo.]

Any product is always discussed with respect to the competition Eg : Apple A11 vs Snapdragon 835 , Vega 64 vs GTX 1080, 8700k vs R7 1800X . These new Intel CPU products do not exist in a void today like they did in the past 5 years from 2011-2016 when AMD did not have anything interesting in the CPU market. More importantly when there was no competition Intel never gave a product worth discussing in terms of a big improvement over previous gen. 8700k is the first CPU from Intel since the 2600k which has got everyone excited about upgrading. Its no surprise that the Coffelake launch has been pulled in because of the stiff competition. So if not for the competition you might have got the 8700k sometime in H1 2018. So yes we can discuss products as they are without referencing the competition but thats the individual's choice not yours.

ONLY you want to acclaim a winner here. What for? What benefit to the world will it bring?

There is ZERO Objectivity in acclaiming winners anywhere. Both companies have strong and weak spots. Saying that one is better than the other is just showing your preferences, nothing else. That is why - why do we have always talk about one company versus the other, and not just the products themselves?

 

[Phynaz]

I'm thinking the 8700 non-k is going to be my baby.

 

[Phynaz]

Please just report the off-topic posts so a Mod can handle them.

 

[coercitiv]

Why can't we be friends.... why can't we be friends...

My option is starting to solidify... I think I'll break the meta and go 8700 + really high speed RAM.

I'm thinking the 8700 non-k is going to be my baby.

Haha

 

[Zucker2k]

I'm thinking the 8700 non-k is going to be my baby.

The 8700 is the sweetspot. It's a versatile chip.

 

[Arachnotronic]

ONLY you want to acclaim a winner here. What for? What benefit to the world will it bring?

There is ZERO Objectivity in acclaiming winners anywhere. Both companies have strong and weak spots. Saying that one is better than the other is just showing your preferences, nothing else. That is why - why do we have always talk about one company versus the other, and not just the products themselves?

Yep. Now let's get back to discussing our builds and assume that everyone here read the same reviews that everyone else did, decided that CFL is the way they wanted to go, and is now building.

I couldn't find the Maximus APEX board available, so right now I am deciding between the Z370 ROG Strix-E and the Z370 Maximus X Hero.

The Hero is fancy, but I don't think I'll use all of its fancy features. I just want a board that will not keep me from getting a >5GHz OC.

 

[raghu78]

On the reverse logic, we could've gotten these chips earlier too, but someone was not competitive for like ten whole years, and we're supposed to be grateful all of a sudden? Intel's 10nm process is more responsible for this (in a negative way), and not AMD.

Intel's 10nm maybe responsible for higher counts not making it to mainstream earlier but AMD Ryzen is responsible for the pull in from the scheduled H1 2018 launch of Coffeelake. Anybody denying that is plain blinded by their bias.

 

[RichUK]

My Asus Hero Z370 will arrive at the same time as my 8700k.

Much love.

 

[RichUK]

Yep. Now let's get back to discussing our builds and assume that everyone here read the same reviews that everyone else did, decided that CFL is the way they wanted to go, and is now building.

I couldn't find the Maximus APEX board available, so right now I am deciding between the Z370 ROG Strix-E and the Z370 Maximus X Hero.

The Hero is fancy, but I don't think I'll use all of its fancy features. I just want a board that will not keep me from getting a >5GHz OC.

Apex availability will be a couple of weeks, so I hear.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

So it's the end of the day: there are, literally 0 8700K's in the entire country and only a handful of boards (with insane prices). Both that CPU and the Apex have an estimated 10+ days to come into stock. It's abysimal and not a launch, worse than Skylake. Sorry but I'm giving this the finger until things become reasonable and actually available, what a letdown as I had plannend on building it Saturday.