Look at all the poor Amazon reviews.
Most are about the CPU being locked, or the lack of availability. They aren't reviews of the CPUs.
Look at all the poor Amazon reviews.If you wanted to overclock you should have paid extra for an 8350K or gone with an alternative brand of processor. Intel sold you a locked processor and told you the specs of the chip ahead of time. Seems a little strange to go on a computer forum to complain about getting exactly what you paid for.
Look at all the poor Amazon reviews.
Most are about the CPU being locked, or the lack of availability. They aren't reviews of the CPUs.
ShopBLT has an ETA of 10/26 for the 6 core and 11/2 for the 4 core coffee lake chips.
http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=723546900&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=coffee+lake&search=Search
Got my 8400 yesterday, nice little thing.
I can't get all cores to run at 4ghz thou
So what is the highest multi for that chip for all cores that you can set it for?Like is 40 an option?Got my 8400 yesterday, nice little thing.
I can't get all cores to run at 4ghz thou
You know this how? And my suggestion is that 14nm++ is really just the "same" process as 14nm, only that "14nm" was the starting point, and "14nm++" is a marketing term describing the current point of the process. That there's nothing objectively different.They aren’t rebranded KBL dies. They are Coffee Lake chips.
You know this how? And my suggestion is that 14nm++ is really just the "same" process as 14nm, only that "14nm" was the starting point, and "14nm++" is a marketing term describing the current point of the process. That there's nothing objectively different.
I could be completely wrong, of course, and Intel actually has undertaken to make both a 6-core as well as a 4-core mask set, but that seems like a waste of money to me, when they could easily re-badge KBL 4-core dies, into Coffee Lake packages, just like AMD did with Carizzo and Bristol Ridge on AM4. Same thing.
I'm tempted to pull the trigger with these guys because they have a date published. This will be LGA1366/X58 to LGA1151/Z370 upgrade. However, I'm going back and forth between Z370 and waiting for Z390.
There's are two usb 2.0 header and one usb 3.0 header at the bottom/middle of the board there is one usb 3( I think that's what's its called) .1 header near the 24 power pi
IIRC, there are pics somewhere showing the differences, and 14nm++ is actually a little bigger in one of the dimensions.You know this how? And my suggestion is that 14nm++ is really just the "same" process as 14nm, only that "14nm" was the starting point, and "14nm++" is a marketing term describing the current point of the process. That there's nothing objectively different.
I could be completely wrong, of course, and Intel actually has undertaken to make both a 6-core as well as a 4-core mask set, but that seems like a waste of money to me, when they could easily re-badge KBL 4-core dies, into Coffee Lake packages, just like AMD did with Carizzo and Bristol Ridge on AM4. Same thing.
A third improved process, "14nm++", is set to begin in late 2017 and will further allow for +23-24% higher drive current for 52% less power vs the original 14nm process. The 14nm++ process also appear to have slightly relaxed poly pitch of 84 nm (from 70 nm). It's unknown what impact, if any, this will have on the density.
Note that while both "14nm" and "14nm+" used the same transistor geometry, the "14nm++" actually uses a more relaxed contacted poly pitch of 84 nm (from previously 70nm). There is no real density change despite this change likely due to various design techniques such as reduced fins where unnecessary.
You can likely get a PCI-E card?You really want to wait another 9 months for Z390...?
Sorry, meant USB 3.1 and I honestly don't see one near the 24 pin? It's a rather big and conspicuous header. It's for the front case USB ports.
But it does get 3.8GHz all cores?
Yep, 40So what is the highest multi for that chip for all cores that you can set it for?Like is 40 an option?
Also Thank you Larry, for posting your CPUz scores. It makes me think that some of the reviewers are getting paid to be a tad bit bias on there reviews to make the CFL series look much better then it really is.No biggie though cause tech is advancing so fast these days I can hardly keep up.
You can likely get a PCI-E card?
Every conversation with Newegg support that I have read goes a little bit differently. Some excessively vague and some very detailed. When I called 2 days ago, the conversation was somewhere in between. Was told they were expecting only small batches intermittently between now and next year and there was no way to tell how many backorders were ahead of mine, etc. Oddly, he said that his system was showing that they had 7 on hand due to cancelled orders, but that made little sense to me as it would seem that those would have been automatically assigned to ship to the next backorders in the queue.
Amazon says it's shipping today. Hopefully I got lucky and will have a 6C CL chip to play with.Seems like it. Newegg has a 1 per customer limit on them.
I finally saw the i5-8400 available on Amazon, so I just ordered one to play with.
You are correct. It is less dense than the previous iteration. To help bump clock speed a bit and reduce thermals a bit.I believe you are wrong. I remember reading something that they actually made the gate distance larger on 14nm++. That is a clear physical change in the "wrong direction" to the expected ever shrinking transistors. It was done to reduce leakage (less power usage).
Every conversation with Newegg support that I have read goes a little bit differently. Some excessively vague and some very detailed. When I called 2 days ago, the conversation was somewhere in between. Was told they were expecting only small batches intermittently between now and next year and there was no way to tell how many backorders were ahead of mine, etc. Oddly, he said that his system was showing that they had 7 on hand due to cancelled orders, but that made little sense to me as it would seem that those would have been automatically assigned to ship to the next backorders in the queue.
Look at all the poor Amazon reviews.
Most are about the CPU being locked, or the lack of availability. They aren't reviews of the CPUs.
You really want to wait another 9 months for Z390...?
Did some poking around after you replied with this, seeing more articles that say 2nd half of 2018. I had thought it was 1st half. Not willing to wait that long. Thanks.
In regards to shopblt.com, a quick google brought me this reddit post. I'll wait for stock at Amazon or my local MC.
First, its not selectively, as I said its the conclusion.Do you remember when you threw a tantrum when some review sites needed relatively "high" voltages in their Threadripper review? How come you're so comfortable with this particular review you are even quoting them, albeit selectively?
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Why wont it do a multi of 40 for all the cores? is it a heat issue or is it unstable? OR you motherboard wont allow it?
Yep, 40