Intel "Coffee Lake" Builders Thread

[IRobot23]

Did anyone even try out coffee lake on cheap motherboard? Turbo boost? I do not believe that even cheap Z370 could handle i7 8700/K at 4,3GHz or i5 8600K or i5 8400.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Did anyone even try out coffee lake on cheap motherboard? Turbo boost? I do not believe that even cheap Z370 could handle i7 8700/K at 4,3GHz or i5 8600K or i5 8400.

Of course it will, they may not, however to OC them as far as on a top end board, for example.

 

[ozzy702]

Did anyone even try out coffee lake on cheap motherboard? Turbo boost? I do not believe that even cheap Z370 could handle i7 8700/K at 4,3GHz or i5 8600K or i5 8400.

Absolute nonsense with zero evidence to back up your claim. Every Z370 mobo available will drive those CPUs at their max turbo boosts safely and for years of day in day out use. They may not be able to OC past Intel's specs, but they will certainly be able to sustain them with ease.

 

[IRobot23]

Absolute nonsense with zero evidence to back up your claim. Every Z370 mobo available will drive those CPUs at their max turbo boosts safely and for years of day in day out use. They may not be able to OC past Intel's specs, but they will certainly be able to sustain them with ease.

Any proof?
Intel said they guarantee only base clocks for coffee

 

[TahoeDust]

Did anyone even try out coffee lake on cheap motherboard? Turbo boost? I do not believe that even cheap Z370 could handle i7 8700/K at 4,3GHz or i5 8600K or i5 8400.

This is absolute and complete nonsense. Literally the definition of FUD.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Any proof?
Intel said they guarantee only base clocks for coffee

Er common sense and logic, perhaps?

 

[Arachnotronic]

PSA: Here is Intel's FAQ on Turbo Boost 2.0.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005641/processors.html

 

[IRobot23]

Intel's FAQ on turbo boost 2.0 is biggest .... I have ever seen. How can cheap MB run six cores at 4,3GHz? Is it 95W TDP, not it is not.

Simple logic is: CPU will boost up to 4,3GHz, but it will start to throttle (MB cannot handle it). It is very simple to understand it and you are simply denying that fact.

1. Intel is correct, every CPU will boost up to its rated speeds, IF and only IF motherboard can handle it.

2. Intel rated i7 8700K as 95W TDP based on based CLOCK - 3.7GHz!

How much power does this thing need during gaming and editing?

Same was with FX 8350, low end MB could handle suck power hog.

So it will happen to AM4 too. R7 1800X is rated at 3.6GHz as 95W TDP. That's the problem with Intel. Intel did not rate turbo clocks for a reason, same goes for XFR with AMD CPUs.

It will OC if your cooling solution can do it and motherboard can handle the power.

Stop the b*llsh*t about it, no matter how much can Intel guarantee turbo clock power delivery is a huge problem.

These are simple facts.
Same goes for overclocking R5 and R7 on cheaper boards. They start to throttle or they will die in a year.

Trolling is not allowed
I can only personally say that the R7 comment is totally false, but the whole post, based on that alone is trolling.
And mine is a $75 motherboard and does not throttle. ASRock B350 pro4
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[TheF34RChannel]

Intel's FAQ on turbo boost 2.0 is biggest .... I have ever seen. How can cheap MB run six cores at 4,3GHz? Is it 95W TDP, not it is not.
Simple logic is: CPU will boost up to 4,3GHz, but it will start to throttle.

100% assumptions in your last few posts. I wonder if you're trolling or not, to be honest.

*face palm*

 

[PeterScott]

Intel's FAQ on turbo boost 2.0 is biggest .... I have ever seen. How can cheap MB run six cores at 4,3GHz? Is it 95W TDP, not it is not.
Simple logic is: CPU will boost up to 4,3GHz, but it will start to throttle.

That looks more like trolling than logic to me.

 

[Crono]

I'm using an 8700 at 4.3GHz just fine on a $135 ($125 after rebate ) board. Mini ITX, using a cute little SFX 450W PSU. I know, it boggles the mind. I assume it must be witchcraft.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Intel's FAQ on turbo boost 2.0 is biggest .... I have ever seen. How can cheap MB run six cores at 4,3GHz? Is it 95W TDP, not it is not.
Simple logic is: CPU will boost up to 4,3GHz, but it will start to throttle.

How much power does this thing need during gaming?

I think with high end board i7 8700 (non-k) might clock even higher than 4,3GHz, same goes for i7 8400 (4GHz all cores), i5 8600K and we saw it already with i7 8700K.

Seriously, enough with the FUD. As long as your cooling is adequate, Intel desktop CPUs will sustain the all-core turbo frequency on any compatible motherboard.

 

[IRobot23]

Seriously, enough with the FUD. As long as your cooling is adequate, Intel desktop CPUs will sustain the all-core turbo frequency on any compatible motherboard.

Okay, I will try to get 4,3GHz on i7 8700 with cheap mobo, if you are wrong then you buy me best Z390.

 

[IRobot23]

I'm using an 8700 at 4.3GHz just fine on a $135 ($125 after rebate ) board. Mini ITX, using a cute little SFX 450W PSU. I know, it boggles the mind. I assume it must be witchcraft.

135$ of course, what about 80$ B board?

I know they will make 80$ will full safety, powerful VRM just to keep i7 8700 at 4,3GHz while making "loss". I get it.

 

[Crono]

135$ of course, what about 80$ B board?

"I do not believe that even cheap Z370 could handle i7 8700/K at 4,3GHz or i5 8600K or i5 8400."

This is one of the cheapest Z370 boards, only $10 more than the other inexpensive Z370 boards.
I also have no reason to believe the B360s would be significantly worse. Typically you see a features cut on the ~$80 boards versus the lower end Z boards, but the VRM layout and max turbo clock capability isn't necessarily worse.

And I have no idea where you got the idea that Ryzen 5 and 7 CPUs can't run without throttling or dying within a year (though that one would be hard to prove one way or another yet, as it hasn't been a year since launch). They run just fine at 4.0GHz even on $80 B350 boards.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Let's not indulge him in whatever train wreck he's trying to cause

 

[IRobot23]

"I do not believe that even cheap Z370 could handle i7 8700/K at 4,3GHz or i5 8600K or i5 8400."

This is one of the cheapest Z370 boards, only $10 more than the other inexpensive Z370 boards.

I also have no reason to believe the B360s would be significantly worse.
And I have no idea where you got the idea that Ryzen 5 and 7 CPUs can't run without throttling or dying within a year (though that one would be hard to prove one way or another yet, as it hasn't been a year since launch). They run just fine at 4.0GHz even on $80 B350 boards.

Which board?
Looks like you think everything is perfect.

 

[IRobot23]

Let's not indulge him in whatever train wreck he's trying to cause

I am not trying to cause anything. I asked you how much can i7 8700/K pull with at 80-100% load non-AVX.

 

[PeterScott]

Let's not indulge him in whatever train wreck he's trying to cause

The ignore feature on this forum engine is great. You don't even see it when someone quotes a troll.

 

[Crono]

Let's not indulge him in whatever train wreck he's trying to cause

Agreed, not going to waste my time. Especially not in the builders thread.

 

[IRobot23]

The ignore feature on this forum engine is great. You don't even see it when someone quotes a troll.

Now I am a troll. Okay.

 

[IRobot23]

Agreed, not going to waste my time. Especially not in the builders thread.

At least you could tell us which board did you bought.
https://www.newegg.com/global/si/Pr...3144115&cm_re=MSI_Z370-_-13-144-115-_-Product


Tell me why is score lower than it should be at 4,3GHz?
https://www.pcgamesn.com/msi-z370-gaming-pro-carbon-review-benchmarks

It scores should score around 1440p with 4.3GHz. Probably for this board this is only bios problem, but what about that cheaper 100$ Z board?

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Back on track for me then. Apparently, if one shop is anything to go by, the CPU will be back in stock 25 October - 20 days after launch taking it with a ton of salt though, and there's also the pre-orders to fulfill first (of which I have one of course). Trying to put it out of my mind until I get a shipped notification.

 

[epsilon84]

I am not trying to cause anything. I asked you how much can i7 8700/K pull with at 80-100% load non-AVX.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...vs-ryzen-streaming-gaming-overclocking/page-3

95W in Blender, right on its rated TDP

Nothing to see here folks, move along...

 

[IRobot23]

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...vs-ryzen-streaming-gaming-overclocking/page-3

95W in Blender, right on its rated TDP

Nothing to see here folks, move along...

I was looking at those
https://www.techspot.com/review/1497-intel-core-i7-8700k/page4.html -4,3GHz 1423p.

But as you guys say looks like there won't be a problem. So I am wrong then, apologies. Like I said, I will recommend B or cheapest Z board for i7 8700 for my friend, if it won't clock as you said, you guys will act like real MEN and buy new better board, I guess.
- score
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/75...n-round-up-17-keer-coffee-lake-benchmarks-cpu
- power
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/75...n-round-up-17-keer-coffee-lake-stroomverbruik