https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f5JQrnOwTE
Another review this time of the 8600k and 8400. 8600k beats the 7700k overall, and the 8400 is very competitive against the 7700k. Interesting to note he did a 2500k at the end of the review and it gets annihilated. So i think it's safe to say that the 2500k is past it's used by date for gamers (chuck in a 3770k though for a nice boost)
If you are building primarily a gaming rig, I would agree. The $100 saved can go towards a faster GPU, for example. For a multi purpose desktop PC though, my vote goes to the 8700K or even the 8700 non K, which is practically the same price as the 8600K with a decent HSF.The 8600k is the real jewel of the lineup if you ask me. I would still buy the 8700k because I like the overkill, but the 8600k is sick for the money.
When did he say that (dual channel for SKL-X)?But he did mistake. He used dual channel for i7 7820X.
When did he say that (dual channel for SKL-X)?
Why not go for the 3770k?
7820X also has 4 more threads than the 8700K.He didn't, but AotS benchmarks shows it. Well his AotS benchmarks seems little off... It doesn't even matter since only few games has same optimization.
But here is interesting, i7 7820X has turbo of 4GHz all core... running at 4,4Ghz give i7 8700K at 4,7GHz only 4FPS advantage.
4,4GHz i7 7820X, i7 6900K, i7 5960X
vs
4,7GHz i7 8700K
Seems like GHz really helps to get few extra FPS, but you must have fast ram. Maybe we will have GHz and DDR4 war.
Checked expected delivery dates and my heart sank at both the elusive board and 8700K. Aside from crazy prices the Apex shifted from this week to the last of October and the CPU from the week after to 28 November. These are still probably guesses by the site so reality is much worse. Getting frustrated here.
The 8600k is the real jewel of the lineup if you ask me. I would still buy the 8700k because I like the overkill, but the 8600k is sick for the money.
Is that on your order, or the published date for new orders? It's always important to distinguish the two, because as pre-orders stack up, if an expected shipment gets fully pre-sold, the expected date for new orders will get pushed to the next expected shipment, but existing orders aren't going to change. You'd still get yours out of the earlier shipment.
There are arguments to be made for all the 6 core Coffee Lake CPUs.
Here the 8600K is $100 more than the 8400, and the 8400 is no slouch either, making the 8400 a very strong bang/buck contender.
I can feel your frustration. Like I said before, I believe Santa is gonna be selling a lot of coffeelake chips. Hang in there.Checked expected delivery dates and my heart sank at both the elusive board and 8700K. Aside from crazy prices the Apex shifted from this week to the last of October and the CPU from the week after to 28 November. These are still probably guesses by the site so reality is much worse. Getting frustrated here.
I can feel your frustration. Like I said before, I believe Santa is gonna be selling a lot of coffeelake chips. Hang in there.
Good point. Not my order as the dates come from the only shop that actually lists dates (the others just say: 10+ week days / 2017 / etc.). I have only pre-ordered the CPU, at another store, and they have no idea when they are getting any in to begin with. I would've pre-ordered the Apex too but my shop isn't even listing it yet. Worst Intel CPU launch since my time on earth :/
The 8th gen is comprised of a very strong line-up, the best so far if you ask me!
ShopBLT (the only US retailer that has actually shared dates that they expect new stock to arrive as far as I know) has had no variance in in the date they expect more stock since they posted it. That is, they expect their CA warehouse to receive stock next Monday, and their other warehouses to get stock the Thursday after that. Now, if these dates are real, who knows, but they haven't changed.
There are arguments to be made for all the 6 core Coffee Lake CPUs.
Here the 8600K is $100 more than the 8400, and the 8400 is no slouch either, making the 8400 a very strong bang/buck contender.
I use an overview site that lists prices etc. for all webshops in the country and the one that shows dates has, to my knowledge, only popped up now alongside a few others, making me highly suspect of their authenticity - although the overview site does not list suspicious sites. Still, I'll wait for 'my' shop to place a(n) (pre-)order. I do expect US/China availability before the larger countries in Europe (let alone the smaller ones like mine) get some, or perhaps more stock.
From OCUK (UK): *WARNING: PRODUCT IN SEVERE CONSTRAINT, ETA NOVEMBER!* [8700K]
I think I'm just not gonna sit on this and do something else other than checking when and where and just forget about the whole thing until I get a shipped notification. Too much daily disappointment ha ha!
@RichUK How are your SA and VCIOO voltages, or did you (have to) tweak and lower them? What RAM are you using again?
Honestly, I think the 8600K is in an awkward spot price wise and apart from gamers I really can't see its value when compared to other products around its price range.
As I said earlier, it's basically the same price as the 8700 non k once you factor in the price of a HSF, but even when overclocked to 5GHz it is only 400MHz faster than the 1C turbo of the 8700. Sure, it will be 700MHz faster when all 6 cores are under load, but if you are actually doing something that is pegging all 6 cores at full load you may as well get the 8700 because it has HT, and in terms of MT throughput a 6C/12T @ 4.3GHz >>> 6C/6T @ 5GHz
It's kind of a wash. You get get about 20% boost from HT in those specific cases., and you can run the 8600K 16% faster, so I bet it will be neck and neck on those highly parallel loads, but in gaming, but in many other most mixed loads the OC 8600K will likely be ahead.
Also how many i7-8700 are really going to use Intels crappy cooler, so I don't see that being that significant.
I am think of getting an 8400 and even at that lower power level, I am thinking of ditching the crappy Intel cooler.
It's kind of a wash. You get get about 20% boost from HT in those specific cases., and you can run the 8600K 16% faster, so I bet it will be neck and neck on those highly parallel loads, but in gaming, but in many other most mixed loads the OC 8600K will likely be ahead.
Also how many i7-8700 are really going to use Intels crappy cooler, so I don't see that being that significant.
I am think of getting an 8400 and even at that lower power level, I am thinking of ditching the crappy Intel cooler.