Okay, after re-reading your posts, I think you are just using the term "100%" in a way that is ambiguous, since "100%" is mainly used by people to mean fully, totally, or completely. Saying 1:1 is far clearer, and I agree with you now.
Okay, after re-reading your posts, I think you are just using the term "100%" in a way that is ambiguous, since "100%" is mainly used by people to mean fully, totally, or completely. Saying 1:1 is far clearer, and I agree with you now.I never argued against linear perf scaling. I said perf never scales 1:1 with clock increase and thats a measurable fact.
Enter BIOS, change Long Term Power and Short Term Power to lower values like 35W and 45W respectively and you'll have a CPU that will dynamically clock to fit into 35W TDP. If you set Short Term Power at 45W like in my example, then it will use 45W for a limited time duration before dropping down to 35W: this is useful for burst loads of 15-30 seconds. The time interval in which Short Term Power is allowed can also be configured.Any chance we could get like a low powered i7 8700t 25w or 35w part? I could for sure use a 6c/12t part but would love a energy efficient ultra low power version. I know the i7 8700 non "K:" version is 65w already so maybe if they drop the stock clock to something like 2.6Ghz with a turbo boost up to 3.6Ghz would be perfect for me.
Oh thats great info thanks for posting I will give it a shot soon as I get a cpu to try it out with.. now if newegg or B&H will just stock there inventory we'd be golden.Enter BIOS, change Long Term Power and Short Term Power to lower values like 35W and 45W respectively and you'll have a CPU that will dynamically clock to fit into 35W TDP. If you set Short Term Power at 45W like in my example, then it will use 45W for a limited time duration before dropping down to 35W: this is useful for burst loads of 15-30 seconds. The time interval in which Short Term Power is allowed can also be configured.
TDP can be configured as low as 20-25W. The CPU will use the highest frequencies it can under any load, the highest allowed by your multipliers ofc. If you take the 8700 and configure it for 35W TDP, it will boost to it's max frequency for 1-2 threads, but higher thread counts may end up running at lower frequencies than stock, depending on power usage. To make the most out of a low TDP setting you may want to make sure C states are enableb in BIOS, not just set to Auto.
Las but not least, you can also overclock while running a lower than stock TDP. In theory you can have a 5Ghz 8700K @ 65W TDP: it will boost to 5Ghz as long as power usage is bellow the limit, then drop clocks to fit the thermal envelope.
This type of power management has been around on Intel CPUs ever since Sandy Bridge. It got refined and gradually exposed to the user with every new generation. It offers excellent flexibility and is the reason why I always try to make sure the boards I purchase expose the features via BIOS. (probably all Z boards do, but I would check on cheaper models)
Wow! Great news indeed!Ehm just got a shipped notification for the CPU Since there's no Apex boards I think I'll need to go with the Hero as that's the only board in stock or wait until November...
Is windows repair still awful when putting a new board and CPU in? Just dislike installing windows lol
Wow! Great news indeed!
absolutely not. Is the best part of win 10. You can swap drives and boot with no problem.
And not what the shop said so that was a nice surprise this morning!! Have a hero incoming tomorrow. Sadly no Apex but beggars can't be choosers.
So I can put in a new motherboard, CPU and RAM and use the same installation?? That'd be a first if so, what's needed? A repair? And the end result trouble free?
And not what the shop said so that was a nice surprise this morning!! Have a hero incoming tomorrow. Sadly no Apex but beggars can't be choosers.
So I can put in a new motherboard, CPU and RAM and use the same installation?? That'd be a first if so, what's needed? A repair? And the end result trouble free?
All the lights in my home are LED. But I think you're missing a part of the problem. It isn't the electricity bill, it's the heat and noise. Bad thermals produce more heat, which can be a problem itself in hotter climates. Then the fan noise to cool it.Change the lightbulb in your bedside lamp to an LED for $10. Boom, done.
I don't mean to single you out, but after months of reading hysterical comments on "power hog" cpu's I think we've lost a wee bit of perspective on just how much energy we're talking about.
They shipped you an 8700k!?!
You don't even need to use repair. At most you'll have to activate again (not a problem if it's full retail, though you may need to purchase new copy/key if it's OEM, or call Microsoft support).
It should be trouble free. Usually the only trouble I've ever had (and I've done this maybe a half dozen times between 8/8.1/10) is when switching GPU as well, which sometimes causes control center crashing going Nvidia to AMD or vice-versa. But even that is minor, and uninstall with DDU cleans up any messy files left behind. Even AMD to Intel (just moved my m.2 from a Ryzen machine to 8700) worked fine, though I ended up wiping and reinstalling Windows 10 just to make sure my benchmarks were done ona clean system for comparison purposes.
A clean install of Windows always preferable, though, just in case there are other pesky drivers that are incompatible. Make a backup of your files, in any case, if you haven't already.
Change the lightbulb in your bedside lamp to an LED for $10. Boom, done.
I don't mean to single you out, but after months of reading hysterical comments on "power hog" cpu's I think we've lost a wee bit of perspective on just how much energy we're talking about.
Continuing with scannall's post, many people have their computers in desks with closed cabinets. That means getting the heat out is slow, CPUs throttle down to base clocks far more, and the fans which run full speed all the time bring in a lot of dust which makes the whole problem worse. Forgive me, but I do not recall seeing many computer desk cabinets with lightbulbs inside to switch out (and if you do have one, the better solution may be to remove that lightbulb entirely). And there are many people who want a small sleek computer outside of a cabinet, but then the small case usually doesn't have great cooling.All the lights in my home are LED. But I think you're missing a part of the problem. It isn't the electricity bill, it's the heat and noise. Bad thermals produce more heat, which can be a problem itself in hotter climates. Then the fan noise to cool it.
Son of a %$&#@ mother $%&#^* lol just kidding congrats post some rig photos when you get a chance we US people are still waiting. Insert sad face here
I take it that means you pre-order has landed?
Son of a %$&#@ mother $%&#^* lol just kidding congrats post some rig photos when you get a chance we US people are still waiting. Insert sad face here
Ok you just suck on so many levels J/K, Congratulations on your score !! I am so jealous right now though.. Come on newegg ship the rest of us our darn cpu's already!! Errrr
Ok you just suck on so many levels J/K, Congratulations on your score !! I am so jealous right now though.. Come on newegg ship the rest of us our darn cpu's already!! Errrr
ShopBLT still seems to say 10/26 and 11/2 for Coffee Lake.
Interesting note is that they have a lot more of the K chips on the way than they have pre-orders to fill, but for the 8700, they have way more pre-orders than they have chips on the way.
8100 and 8350K are in short supply and they don't have many on the way, either.
http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=723546900&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=COFFEE+LAKE&search=Search
Same here newegg charged my card for i7 8700k