Well I know its more of a side grade or even a down grade to some but to me its a full blown upgrade. I am to the point I will do anything to stop the lock ups, app crashes and blue screens. Beside in my eyes Ryzen is still to Beta Testy for my likes. maybe I will consider Ryzen 2 next year or something if they manage to work all the bugs out and please dont think I am here to bash AMD in any way because these problems are minor and only affect very few people including myself.Just hoping I dont run into any of these issues on the new CFL platform.