Wow...It looks like the 8700k is binning out pretty nicely. Silicon Lottery binning results and prices including deliding...
4.9 GHz @ 1.387v: 100% - $449
5.0 GHz @ 1.400v: 81% - $479
5.1 GHz @ 1.412v: 58% - $539
5.2 GHz @ 1.425v: 30% - $659
5.3 GHz @ 1.437v: 6% - $999
I guess they don't think so. They warranty their chips at that voltage. Give it a shot and find out!They delidded and binned mine at 5.1 Ghz. Wondering if 1.412 V is too much for a daily driver.
I guess they don't think so. They warranty their chips at that voltage. Give it a shot and find out!
Nice. You may be able to do it at lower voltage than they binned it at. Just because they could not bin it at 5.2GHz @ 1.425, doesn't mean it can't do 5.1GHz @ 1.375v.I definitely will. I think I may wait until next weekend to build my new rig as my 1080 Ti should be here by then.
I'm seeing a lot of sub 4000 memory here. Anyone doing something like this yet?
I'm sure it's very much possible. I'm just not sure why it isn't more common.
I've been running 4133 at CAS 16 completely stable since July. I'm torn on getting an 8700K. Maybe I'll just wait for something better next year.
I thought advising people to wait for the next year launch was something you were reluctant to do, since there's always something better on schedule for "next year", especially for enthusiasts such as AdamK47.Good idea, IMHO. 8 core CFL should be here next year on Z390 chipset, which will be better than Z370.
True, and generally good advice, I think. But OTOH, he just upgraded so it might make sense to wait. Despite all the enthusiasm for more cores, 7740k (I think he has a very good overclock) is still a great gaming chip for at least another year or two. My only reservation would be is whether we will really see 8 core CL and if so when it will be. Personally, I am still running an i5 2320, and might look for a really cheap close out pre-built with a 7700 or 7700k. That would be more than enough cores for me, but I would like something with better lightly threaded performance. I game much less than I used to so, it would be more than enough for that as well.I thought advising people to wait for the next year launch was something you were reluctant to do, since there's always something better on schedule for "next year", especially for enthusiasts such as AdamK47.
Wow...It looks like the 8700k is binning out pretty nicely. Silicon Lottery binning results and prices including deliding...
4.9 GHz @ 1.387v: 100% - $449
5.0 GHz @ 1.400v: 81% - $479
5.1 GHz @ 1.412v: 58% - $539
5.2 GHz @ 1.425v: 30% - $659
5.3 GHz @ 1.437v: 6% - $999
True, and generally good advice, I think. But OTOH, he just upgraded so it might make sense to wait. Despite all the enthusiasm for more cores, 7740k (I think he has a very good overclock) is still a great gaming chip for at least another year or two. My only reservation would be is whether we will really see 8 core CL and if so when it will be. Personally, I am still running an i5 2320, and might look for a really cheap close out pre-built with a 7700 or 7700k. That would be more than enough cores for me, but I would like something with better lightly threaded performance. I game much less than I used to so, it would be more than enough for that as well.
Voltage is down but operating frequency has gone up by more than 50%.But think about it: we used to have low profile DDR3 at 1.65v. Who needs tall heatsinks when the voltage now is 1.2-1.35v?
I thought advising people to wait for the next year launch was something you were reluctant to do, since there's always something better on schedule for "next year", especially for enthusiasts such as AdamK47.
That's really good. You can see why Intel would dump Icelake desktop for 8C CFL; 10+ clock speed won't come close to this.
If you set a fixed voltage then VID no longer matters, check Vcore to see the actual voltage being suplied to the CPU. You should see VID jumping around depending on load while Vcore stays around 1.3-1.34V (value may change slightly depending on CPU load and your motherboard Load Line Calibration settings).I have a fixed voltage on my 8700k cpu of 1.32 which seems to be staying fine in HWInfo. My VID though reached a maximum of 1.434V. Is this okay? If I understand, VID is not an actual voltage being supplied, it's just what the CPU "requests" or thinks it wants? Just want to make sure my OC is going to remain safe.
Any overclock beyond 4.7-4.8Ghz is not for true performance gains, it is mainly for personal satisfaction.For stability, what should I be going for, and with enough performance gain?
It seems like he's not entirely thrilled with what 8700K/current Z370 boards offer, so if he's hesitant about that platform, might as well wait a year for the Coffee Lake platform to improve, new boards to come out with potentially better memory support, and as an added bonus, he'll get a much better CPU.
If you set a fixed voltage then VID no longer matters, check Vcore to see the actual voltage being suplied to the CPU. You should see VID jumping around depending on load while Vcore stays around 1.3-1.34V (value may change slightly depending on CPU load and your motherboard Load Line Calibration settings).
Any overclock beyond 4.7-4.8Ghz is not for true performance gains, it is mainly for personal satisfaction.
If you want 5Ghz then find the stable voltage for that speed, then set an AVX offset of 200-400Mhz to make sure you won't hit thermal limits under specific loads, then enjoy your CPU.
I've been running 4133 at CAS 16 completely stable since July. I'm torn on getting an 8700K. Maybe I'll just wait for something better next year.
RichUK is on Asus Hero X Z370.I thought Asus had some pretty good memory support too but I could be mistaken and I'm too lazy to look.
Memory OC seems pretty decent:
If you only use that prime 95 load to calibrate your overclock and your cooling, under 90C is ok. If you intend to run heavy continuous loads on that system under various room temperatures, then aim for 85C in prime 95. (assuming your current room temps are bellow your max possible values)Thank you- what thermals should I use as guidelines, ie prime 95? Under 90c ok or is that still too high?
Wow...It looks like the 8700k is binning out pretty nicely. Silicon Lottery binning results and prices including deliding...
4.9 GHz @ 1.387v: 100% - $449
5.0 GHz @ 1.400v: 81% - $479
5.1 GHz @ 1.412v: 58% - $539
5.2 GHz @ 1.425v: 30% - $659
5.3 GHz @ 1.437v: 6% - $999