Intel Core 2 Duo E8700 has Arrived!!!

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I thought it was shens a while back.

 

[avenger386]

does it run much hotter than the e8400?

since the core duo chips OC well, is then any difference between stock 8700 and OC e8400?

heat.. etc?

 

[aamsel]

I've tried the 8400, 8500, 8600 and now have the 8700. They have all been great gaming chips. I tried the 8700 for some gaming at 4.014GHz and it runs smooth as butter with low stock voltage. I've been building and upgrading since the 2.66GHz 533FSB northwood. I'm staying with LGA775 for a while.

What motherboard are you using?
I have an E8600 running the same 4.014GHz at 1.2v!
On P5Q Deluxe and 8GB Dominator DDR2-1000 @ 5-5-5-15.

This E8600 is the best CPU I have ever owned. Smooth as silk (or butter)
is a great description of how an E0 Wolfdale can run.

I did have some overhead issues with this setup that have improved
a lot with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 and a X25-M boot drive, but have some
USB issues that could be related to the P5Q Deluxe. I am using BIOS 2201.

 

[Ben90]

does it run much hotter than the e8400?

since the core duo chips OC well, is then any difference between stock 8700 and OC e8400?

heat.. etc?

Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge of the exact binning processor for intel and I can't find the post about it but I have a slight grasp of it.

Yes and no. Basically Intel takes every wolfdale in the making and runs some tests on it. Lets say they need 1k e8700s, 2k e8600s, 5k e8500s and 30k e8400s. The first 1k chips that pass the power requirements for a e8700 become a e8700, if it fails any test it drops down to the next tier, and so on so forth.

Intels 45nm processor is very well developed and the e8700 bin will fill up before any others. What this means is we will have chips that overclock higher/use less voltage/use less power being binned as e8400s as the earlier less worthy (but still worthy enough) CPU due to just not enough demand.

There was a lot of people pissed off when core i7s first came out as basically 45% of 920s overclocked higher than their 965 counterparts with everything else being equal.

Now on the flipside you are guarenteed your chip will at least be able to hit e8700 clocks on stock voltage vs you might get a dud if you go with a e8400.

IMHO the e8700 should only find life under liquid nitrogen or extreme niche markets as i doubt there will be a big enough clock advantage to warrant difference in prices for 24/7 overclockers

 

[Zstream]

*Shrug*

One of my E3110 CPU's reached 4.2ghz on stock.

 

[Skott]

With E8600 running about $270 the E8700 will probably be about $300 or slightly less maybe. At that price its time to go quad i5 or i7 on a new build. People are getting a i5 750 to 4GHz via overclocking and the i7 over that so I don't see the E8700 as very appealing unless you have an existing mobo that can run it and need a quick upgrade and dislike overclocking.

The E8xxx series was great for its time but they are now being outclassed with the new quads. I'm surprised Intel threw users this last bone with the E8700 but I think its just that. One final bone. I agree with some others here to say its now time to leave dual core if you are making a new build.

 

[faxon]

Looking Good! http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=901552

Word that's a good 500mhz over my quad lol. Wonder what the chip can do with 1.45vcore xD

 

[rockit00]

does it run much hotter than the e8400?

since the core duo chips OC well, is then any difference between stock 8700 and OC e8400?

heat.. etc?

It seems to run at about the same temps as the E8600. The 8600 and the 8700 are E0's and run a little cooler than the C0 8400 and 8500. I ran my E8700 for 5 days in an IX38 Quad GT. I never flashed my IP35 with the bios for E0's. So now I am stuck with one board and two E0 Wolfdales!

 

[EBMiller]

Even clocked at a lower MHz (maybe 4GHz?) it will likely outperform a 4.7GHz C2D for less money.

Lol seriously, i see no real need for these chips. A legacy dual core that can hit 5Ghz 24/7 if ur lucky.... Big whoop! An i5-750 platform will be tearing up real world performance for marginal price increase

Really guys ? Unless your gaming at 2001 resolutions of something like 1024x768 or even 1680x1050, I doubt there will be any significant difference between a i750 and an E8700 in real world use. In fact I'd say the E8700 would be the better chip for 85% of what people actually use their PC for...of course no one would suggest a dual will win against a quad when running the all important synthetic benchmarks...

As far as the need for these chips...thats easy. Not everyone see's the value in tossing out a perfectly fine system to upgrade to a quad...

 

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Shens, lets see a 24/7 stable 4.7Ghz with proof

 

[cbn]

Really guys ? Unless your gaming at 2001 resolutions of something like 1024x768 or even 1680x1050, I doubt there will be any significant difference between a i750 and an E8700 in real world use. In fact I'd say the E8700 would be the better chip for 85% of what people actually use their PC for...of course no one would suggest a dual will win against a quad when running the all important synthetic benchmarks...

The trouble with E8700 is that it costs so much money.

 

[Ben90]

Really guys ? Unless your gaming at 2001 resolutions of something like 1024x768 or even 1680x1050, I doubt there will be any significant difference between a i750 and an E8700 in real world use. In fact I'd say the E8700 would be the better chip for 85% of what people actually use their PC for...of course no one would suggest a dual will win against a quad when running the all important synthetic benchmarks...

As far as the need for these chips...thats easy. Not everyone see's the value in tossing out a perfectly fine system to upgrade to a quad...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=54&p2=109
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=54&p2=50

Alright with that last sentence.... Why would you upgrade to a e8700 for ~300, when you could get a q9550 for cheaper? I bet your going to throw out the "video cards matter more in gaming" thing... Well guess what? Everyone had the exact same excuse in single core vs dual core debates, but even the early dualcores can handle most modern games

 

[stipalgl]

This processor appears to be vaporware unless I'm mistaken. It doesn't seem to show up many places on the web. There's no mention of it on either Wikipedia (which is often very quick to update info) or even Intel's official site.

Has anyone actually gotten their hands on this? It may not be released yet, but even with that in mind, there should be more discussion pertaining to it I'd imagine. I find the lack of that discussion questioning whether or not this is even real.

 

[Nemesis 1]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=54&p2=109
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=54&p2=50

Alright with that last sentence.... Why would you upgrade to a e8700 for ~300, when you could get a q9550 for cheaper? I bet your going to throw out the "video cards matter more in gaming" thing... Well guess what? Everyone had the exact same excuse in single core vs dual core debates, but even the early dualcores can handle most modern games

Better question would have been . Why buy this rather than the top of line i5 which in a short time will show its comput power in 5 short days. Which would completely destroy this CPU at that price range. Why would intel even release this chip?

Congrats on the new job IDC

 

[hclarkjr]

Better question would have been . Why buy this rather than the top of line i5 which in a short time will show its comput power in 5 short days. Which would completely destroy this CPU at that price range. Why would intel even release this chip?

Congrats on the new job IDC

they released it because there are those of us still using 775. i do not want to spend the money for DDR3 right now and want to keep what i have. just how much faster is I5 & I7 vs. 775 chips?

 

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from what is rumored, i heard roughly 400mhz at the same speeds, maybe more; add in HT and it gets better

 

[Hey Zeus]

Can't wait for testing between the E8700 and the I5 670

 

[stipalgl]

But where is sufficient discussion of this chip on the web? The lack of info seems a bit strange. Does it even actually exist?

 

[Hey Zeus]

But where is sufficient discussion of this chip on the web? The lack of info seems a bit strange. Does it even actually exist?

It exists.

 

[hclarkjr]

But where is sufficient discussion of this chip on the web? The lack of info seems a bit strange. Does it even actually exist?

http://i.neoseeker.com/n/3/core_2_duo_e8700.jpg

 

[rockit00]

http://i.neoseeker.com/n/3/core_2_duo_e8700.jpg

Not to violate any rules, that is the E8700 that is for sale at eBay now!

 

[Ben90]

Can't wait for the e8800, just check out that overclock:

 

[Hey Zeus]

Can't wait for the e8800, just check out that overclock:

"I'd Buy That For A Dollar"

 

[Farfrumhumpn]

Can't wait for the e8800, just check out that overclock:

Sorry but I'm calling photoshopped BS on this one.

 

[Hey Zeus]

Sorry but I'm calling photoshopped BS on this one.