Intel CPU Sockets

[GWestphal]

LGA 775 lasted from 2004-2009/10 which seems like a goodly amount of time for a CPU socket to stick around. These latest core i3/5/7 sockets have only been around for like a year and they are going to be phased out once LGA 2011 comes out later this year. Do you think LGA 2011 will stick around for 4-5 years or do you think intel is on track to switch sockets every other year?

 

[Wuzup101]

I've been wondering the same thing. It would be nice if 1155 / 2011 stick around for a while (I expect that 1155 will co-exist as 2011 will be a "high end" platform). That being said, I'd love to be able to buy a MB and not expect it to be EOL...

 

[mnewsham]

People were spoiled with 775 i wouldnt expect another socket to last more then 2 years 3 at the most. At least not for awhile.

 

[Slugbait]

22 of the 54 procs at newegg are LGA 775. In other words, of the four still-existing Intel socket types, LGA 775 comprises over 40% of the offerings. And you have 106 LGA 775 mobos to choose from.

What makes you think 1155/1156/1366 will be phased out when LGA 2011 is unveiled?

 

[mfenn]

Point of order: A 2004 775 board will not run a Q9550. Thus, the implication that you could have stuck with one mobo through that whole period is false.

2nd point of order: Saying that 22 of the 54 Intel processors available at Newegg are LGA 775 does not in any way mean that they comprise 40% of the market. All it means is that Intel has a bunch of redundant SKUs hanging around.

Intel is actually very conservative about discontinuing SKUs that don't have a direct replacement. This is mostly for corporate availability assurance considerations. Case in point, Intel is just now announcing that Core 2 Duos will be discontinued in August. That doesn't mean that the older parts make up any significant portion of the market however.

 

[Maximilian]

Point of order: A 2004 775 board will not run a Q9550. Thus, the implication that you could have stuck with one mobo through that whole period is false.

Yeah... that. Socket lifespans can be very long, dosent mean the motherboards lifespan is though.

 

[Athadeus]

How about memory channels? How likely is it that triple channel will be carried over from 1366? I have heard 2011 will be triple channel, quad channel, or both depending on market. You'd be able to run 3/4 of channels with an old kit, but I still would be convinced to get a new kit if the enthusiast 2011 boards were quad channel.

 

[Slugbait]

Point of order:

You completely missed the point

 

[GWestphal]

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just have one socket across all segments? Kind of like the OS X vs Windows thing. There are 8 versions of Windows and 1 version of OS X. Seems like it would just be easier to not have to hire another group of engineers to handle LGA 1366 vs LGA 1155 vs LGA 2011. I dislike when there is artificial market segmentation based on gimping features in a fully capable piece of silicon.

 

[Slugbait]

Now I'm realizing that I wasted valuable keystrokes...

 

[mnewsham]

Now I'm realizing that I wasted valuable keystrokes...

No one is saying they will be phased out or anything, but they are dead sockets, there will be no new CPU's made for 1156 or 1366 so why would someone buy it (unless it is very discounted)

 

[greenhawk]

How likely is it that triple channel will be carried over from 1366?

from what I read from the wiki then the 2011 enthusist will just be triple channel. The quad are for the server ranges (nothing stopping from buying that though).

As to buying new ram for going quad, personal choice on that one. I suspect if you have a kit, then you know the timings of that RAM very well. Just getting something with better timings should not be that hard/time consuming.

Besides, I would not put it past some manufactures to sell "addon" sticks for their high end triple channel offerings. That or high spec "spare" stick rated higher than the originals.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Thought I seen a 32nm 990x or 995x ???

 

[Slugbait]

No one is saying they will be phased out or anything, but they are dead sockets, there will be no new CPU's made for 1156 or 1366 so why would someone buy it (unless it is very discounted)

Again, completely missing the point.

Thought I seen a 32nm 990x or 995x ???

Yes, you did.

 

[Zap]

A 2004 775 board will not run a Q9550. Thus, the implication that you could have stuck with one mobo through that whole period is false.

This has often been true. For instance, what are the chances that your original 430FX socket 7 motherboard with a Pentium 100 in it can be upgraded to a socket 7 Pentium MMX, let alone an AMD K6-2 that physically fit in the same socket? Heck, how about upgrading a socket 478 with a Willamette CPU to run a Prescott?

I think forcing a new socket might be a good thing in that it avoids confusion over compatibility.

 

[rob454]

We need to go back to the Super Socket 7 days.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Intel is actually very conservative about discontinuing SKUs that don't have a direct replacement. This is mostly for corporate availability assurance considerations. Case in point, Intel is just now announcing that Core 2 Duos will be discontinued in August. That doesn't mean that the older parts make up any significant portion of the market however.

Link? All C2D, or PDC?

 

[Slugbait]

Link? All C2D, or PDC?

Not just all C2Ds, nearly all C2Qs as well. It was actually news a couple of months ago. Looks like the Q9650 will be sticking around awhile longer, tho'. http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/..._Pentium_Core_2_Duo_and_Core_2_Quad_CPUs.html

 

[smakme7757]

These latest core i3/5/7 sockets have only been around for like a year and they are going to be phased out once LGA 2011 comes out later this year.

The current 1155 socket processors won't be 'phased out', as you have put it. Once 2011 is realeased it will be catering for the top end of the market with processors and ram quantities capable of handling extremly heavy computing workloads. This hardware will be priced accordingly and as such will not be cheap!

I'd say for the next year or two Intel will focus on 1155 and 2011.

And even if they do introduce another socket i'm quite certain my 2600K and anyone who purchases a 2011 socket CPU will be able to handle most consumer grade computing tasks for many years to come. The reason i say that is because i still find my old Q9450 is going strong!

 

[mfenn]

Link? All C2D, or PDC?

They're broken up into a bunch of PCNs, but feel free to search here.

 

[mfenn]

You completely missed the point

No, I got your point, which is why I agreed with you overall. I was just making a clarification (aka. a point of order) to one part of your statement.

 

[Slugbait]

No, I got your point...

I'm pretty certain you didn't. And I'm not going to get into a pissing match about it, so let's consider the matter closed.

 

[mfenn]

I'm pretty certain you didn't. And I'm not going to get into a pissing match about it, so let's consider the matter closed.

I guess your sig fits then. :awe: