Edit: Marketed base is indeed at the higher range. So the base of 1165G7 is really 1.2 at 12 W. At 28 W you get 2.8. That's technically no better than the 1065G7 (1.3 at 15 W)
The iGPU kills every dGPU in the entry level up to the MX350. It's an important market segment that needs to be covered.Dont really understand the hype about the igpu. I would much rather see a six core variant with a minimal igpu than so much of the die area devoted to graphics.
After all, AMD touted igpu/fusion performance for years, and look what it got them. I could see the strong igpu useful for mac, but that is gone now. Maybe for surface pro?
Wait, really? Launch is slated for holiday season?
What is the use case though? GPU accelerated apps are still minimal, or if that is the main use, a dgpu would still do better. Still not sure it will be enough for gaming.The iGPU kills every dGPU in the entry level up to the MX350. It's an important market segment that needs to be covered.
11th Gen Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-1185G7 processor (TGL-U) PL1=28W with Intel® Dynamic Tuning Technology (Intel® DTT) enabled, 4C8T, Memory: LPDDR4-4267MHz, 16GB (2x8GB), dual channel and dual rank, Storage: Intel® 660p M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD, Display Resolution: 1920x1080p, OS: Microsoft Windows* 10 20H1-19041.326 Power policy set to AC/Balanced mode for all benchmarks except SYSmark 25 which is measured in AC/BAPCo mode for Performance. Power policy set to DC/Balanced mode for power with UX Slider set to Better Battery. All benchmarks run in Admin mode, Graphics: Intel® Xe Graphics, Graphics driver: 27.20.100.8431, Bios version: TGLSFWI1.R00.3284.A00.2007091654 measured on Intel reference board. Temperature: Tc=60c for all IA performance measurements. Tc=85c for all Graphics performance measurements. Performance with Intel® DTT will vary based on chassis design choices, chassis temperature thresholds, cooling solutions, form factors (xyz dimensions), air flow, and ambient air temperatures.
10th Gen: Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-1065G7 processor (ICL-U) PL1=25W with Intel® Dynamic Tuning Technology (Intel® DTT) enabled, 4C8T, Memory: LPDDR4-3733, 2x8GB, Dual Rank, Storage: Intel® 660p M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD, Display Resolution: 1920x1080, OS: Microsoft Windows* 10 20H1-19041.308 Power policy set to AC/Balanced mode for all benchmarks except SYSmark 25 which is measured in AC/BAPCo mode for Performance. Power policy set to DC/Balanced mode for power with UX Slider set to Better Battery. All benchmarks run in Admin mode, Graphics: Intel® Iris® Plus Graphics, Graphics driver: 27.20.100.8280, Bios version: ICLSFWR1.R00.4253.A00.2006180044 measured on Intel reference board. Temperature: Tc=60c for all IA performance measurements. Tc=85c for all Graphics performance measurements. Performance with Intel® DTT will vary based on chassis design choices, chassis temperature thresholds, cooling solutions, form factors (xyz dimensions), air flow, and ambient air temperatures.
AMD system: Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 4800U processor, 8C16T, Memory: 2x8GB DDR4-3200MHz, Storage: Western Digital Corporation PC SN730 SDBPNTY-512G-1101, Display Resolution: 1920x1080, OS: Microsoft Windows* 10 Pro 10.0.19041.330, Graphics: AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics, Graphics driver: 26.20.14042.3009, Bios version: F0CN15WW measured on Lenovo Xiaoxin Pro 13. Out of box OS was Chinese, testing done on a fresh install of OS that supports English using highest available performance profile.
We are assuming that more cores is what the next Tiger Lake announcement (the up to 65 W chips) will be about.Dont really understand the hype about the igpu. I would much rather see a six core variant with a minimal igpu than so much of the die area devoted to graphics.
After all, AMD touted igpu/fusion performance for years, and look what it got them. I could see the strong igpu useful for mac, but that is gone now. Maybe for surface pro?
Edit: looking at the prelim benchmarks in the above post, multithreaded performance even with only 4 cores is quite decent, but it could have been dominating with more cores.
It beats a 6 core Renoir. What many people don’t get is that physical core counts don’t matter. At the end of the day single threaded performance is what counts. This chip will beat a 6C renoir chip in blender, cinebench, etc.Dont really understand the hype about the igpu. I would much rather see a six core variant with a minimal igpu than so much of the die area devoted to graphics.
After all, AMD touted igpu/fusion performance for years, and look what it got them. I could see the strong igpu useful for mac, but that is gone now. Maybe for surface pro?
Edit: looking at the prelim benchmarks in the above post, multithreaded performance even with only 4 cores is quite decent, but it could have been dominating with more cores.
47% faster iGPU says Intel (top SKU vs top SKU). However there are two VRS benchmarks in it, so without them the difference is more likely 35%. I think the i7-1165G7 vs 4700U comparison might be even better for Intel because on Tigerlake i7 there is no CPU threads and GPU EUs downgrade unlike the 4700U, no SMT and 1 less CU than 4800U.
Laptops tested. This link doesn't seem to work for everyone, so I'll post one of the sections:
I calculated the difference without those two games that use VRS. It comes to 42%.
47% faster iGPU says Intel (top SKU vs top SKU). However there are two VRS benchmarks in it, so without them the difference is more likely 35%. I think the i7-1165G7 vs 4700U comparison might be even better for Intel because on Tigerlake i7 there is no CPU threads and GPU EUs downgrade unlike the 4700U, no SMT and 1 less CU than 4800U.
They seem to compare their 28W cpu to 15W 4800U - actual opponent seems to be 4900HS instead. Doesn't 4900HS bring some 30% graphics uplift.....
Out of box OS was Chinese, testing done on a fresh install of OS that supports English using highest available performance profileLaptops tested. This link doesn't seem to work for everyone, so I'll post one of the sections:
They seem to compare their 28W cpu to 15W 4800U - actual opponent seems to be 4900HS instead. Doesn't 4900HS bring some 30% graphics uplift.....
Out of box OS was Chinese, testing done on a fresh install of OS that supports English using highest available performance profile
WHAT?
Out of box OS was Chinese, testing done on a fresh install of OS that supports English using highest available performance profile
WHAT?