5900x usually is the best binned, will have the highest single core performance. 5800x is generally equal or slightly slower than 5900x in gaming.Because they want to price it like 5900X?
5900x usually is the best binned, will have the highest single core performance. 5800x is generally equal or slightly slower than 5900x in gaming.Because they want to price it like 5900X?
Wow, 10 cores are faster than 8 in multi threaded benchmarks. Who would ever have thought that.I find this very disappointing, 14nm rocket lake can't even beat 10 core skylake, let alone compete with Zen3
Intel Core i9-11900K qualification sample compared with Core i9-10900K at 5.2 GHz @ https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-c...ample-compared-with-core-i9-10900k-at-5-2-ghz
The testing platform features ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090, Z490 motherboard, and memory clocked at 3600 MHz (CL16). Both processors have been overclocked to 5.2 GHz and are cooled down by an industrial CPU chiller. The preview has been shared by Bibibili creator 二斤啦啦啦啦.
CPU-Z
In CPU-Z the Core i9-11900K scores 693 points which are around 11% faster than 10900K, however. In the multi-threaded test, the CPU scores 6723 points which means that Comet Lake-S CPU is still 13% faster. This is of course due to the fact that the 10th Gen Core CPU offers more threads (20) than the 11th Gen Core (16).
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Cinebench
The CPU has been tested in all three popular versions of Cinbench. It looks that the 11th Gen Core processor has a clear advantage in the single-threaded benchmark while falling to compete with the current flagship in the multi-threaded benchmark.
Cinebench R15 Cinebench R20 Cinebench R23 Core i9-11900K 250 / 2356 610 / 5672 1582 / 13864 Core i9-10900K 223 / 2655 526 / 6374 1388 / 16535
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3DMark
Combined Scores Fire Strike Fire Strike Extreme Time Spy Time Spy Extreme Core i9-11900K 31294 19303 11339 8289 Core i9-10900K 30225 19421 11406 8525
Wow, 10 cores are faster than 8 in multi threaded benchmarks. Who would ever have thought that.
You do realize, I hope, that RL would have to have 25% higher IPC to equal CL in multi threaded benchmarks.
No, I said RL would have to have 25% better IPC to reach CL multithreaded performance, which obviously it does not, and which no one expected.If that is true then CL 10 core and RL 8 core should have the same multithreaded performance right?
Looking at those scores @ 5.2Ghz that OCed Rocketlake part cannot match 5800X @ stock in those benchmarks (both ST or MT). It is clear that Zen3 has noticeable IPC advantage that +500Mhz clock cannot compensate.
Because they want people to believe that it require 12 Zen 3 cores to match 8 RKL cores, otherwise they would had used a 5800X as comparison since they could had displayed better numbers..
More importantly from that video - the gaming results were decidedly lacklustre. Leading Comet Lake by a handful (Wow, 10 cores are faster than 8 in multi threaded benchmarks. Who would ever have thought that.
You do realize, I hope, that RL would have to have 25% higher IPC to equal CL in multi threaded benchmarks.
No, I said RL would have to have 25% better IPC to reach CL multithreaded performance, which obviously it does not, and which no one expected.
They could have had a seperate die for the igpu, then use that spare space for two more cores and maybe a bit more pcie lanes/ddr4 channels. I wonder why they did not do that...
One more factor to consider: stock clocks drop from i9 to i7 to i6. I expect clocks won't drop as severely as they do on TGL, but anything more than 5% might turn things around for both 5800X and 5600X, at least as far as stock configs go.At the end of the day, pricing and availability of both RKL and Zen 3 in March is what'll make or break Rocket Lake rather than performance IMO.
Yep, that's another reason why both Intel and AMD's pricing matters.One more factor to consider: stock clocks drop from i9 to i7 to i6. I expect clocks won't drop as severely as they do on TGL, but anything more than 5% might turn things around for both 5800X and 5600X, at least as far as stock configs go.
Based on what we know so far we can safely assume RKL i9 will be the new gaming king, but other than that situation is very fluid. Zen 3 availability isn't nearly as bad as some of our fellow posters from US are tempted to think based on local availability, and we still have 3-4 months to go before RKL shows up in stores.
Yep, that's another reason why both Intel and AMD's pricing matters.
If AMD drops the price of the 5800X such that it's closer to the 11700K's price, and the 11900K is left to compete with the 5900X, then only the latter will likely have a 1T advantage at all. Rumoured boost clock for the 11700K is 5GHz flat, and that 5% reduction to 1T perf is really enough to change the story altogether
Is it common for normal people to put skulls on the heads of marketing people from companies they dislike?Is it common to display a name of your competitor with a picture of death symbol close to it? In the press video Intel showed this for 12 seconds.
What an awful click-bait article headline:Press Center - TSMC to Kick off Mass Production of Intel CPUs in 2H21 as Intel Shifts its CPU Manufacturing Strategies, Says TrendForce | TrendForce - Market research, price trend of DRAM, NAND Flash, LEDs, TFT-LCD and green energy, PV
Intel has outsourced the production of about 15-20% of its non-CPU chips, with most of the wafer starts for these products assigned to TSMC and UMC, according to TrendForce’s latest investigations. While the company is planning to kick off mass production of Core i3 CPUs at TSMC’s 5nm node in...www.trendforce.com
This is huge if true. I'm happy Intel is doing it.
Does it mean we will see CPUs from TSMC before Intel 7nm?
Intel has outsourced the production of about 15-20% of its non-CPU chips ...
Is it common for normal people to put skulls on the heads of marketing people from companies they dislike?
What Intel did is pathetic and they deserve being laughed at, but this is not the thread to do it and that modified picture is definitely not the proper message.
I actually dislike such symbols of death and deplore current culture, where death, destruction and violence seem to be a norm, especially in all types of media (including computer games).
On the other hand, if you call, you may get a reply.
Dislaying a message, conveying that AMD=death and Intel=headlines for 12 seconds in a video is such a ridiculous thing, that I do not consider my response inappropriate.
They even could have displayed the AMD notebook on a barrel of poison with AMD logo on it, and dress the presenter in blue, add wings and a halo. Angelic Intel against poisonous AMD. Would that be more ridiculous than what they did? It would be pretty comparable IMO.
AMD have a vPro alternative as a part of Ryzen Pro. Did Intel even mention it or was it totally glossed over?Lets be real. The mask is something you did. The skull and crossbones are representing a virus attack, and she states that it is normally transparent to a user - they get no such warning. She is illustrating how vPro protects the user. VPro is a real advantage if say, your company handles credit card and personal customer information. Many companies require this type of protection.
Anyone who wants to see the real video can go here and fast forward to 7:05.
The virus pops up on the AMD laptop :
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On the Intel system, vPro / CET stops the attack :
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AMD have a vPro alternative as a part of Ryzen Pro. Did Intel even mention it or was it totally glossed over?