So basically with the power limits removed, i.e. not really "stock". I would say it's out of the box performance rather than stock.
Der8auer has a stock 3495X on a better MB, This times it's basically tied with The Zen3 Based Threadripper PRO 5995WX, but it consumes Over 500 Watts of Power.
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Yeah, my first guess would be unnecessarily high idle clocks for the high performance setting.Considering the boards were designed and ready for release many months ago it's genuinely very surprising to see what I can only assume is half baked firmware causing that excessive idle power.
I mean it can't be EMIB causing it, one of the biggest reasons it's even there is because it saves a tonne of power (at a given bandwidth) compared to normal packaging techniques.
Likely not. Any higher and you're looking at people who should be buying a proper server or renting cloud computing me thinks.Is there any incentive for AMD to release anything Higher than 64 Cores?
Nope . Pretty sure Lunar Lake is also using N3, and we won't see 18A products till Panther(?) Lake in 2025.Okay I feel stupid, because I thought 18A to start, realised that Lunar Lake is the one that's 18A and that ARL is 20A instead and then wrote 18A anyway
Nope . Pretty sure Lunar Lake is also using N3, and we won't see 18A products till Panther(?) Lake in 2025.
I agree, a Decently clocked 64C/128T Zen4 based ThreadRipper will just manhandle the 3495X and there is nothing Emerald Rapids based Xeons can do about it.(stuck with the same lithography process, 64 cores and same Mesh Interconnect) These Xeons are 2019 Tech trying to beat a 2023 tech.Likely not. Any higher and you're looking at people who should be buying a proper server or renting cloud computing me thinks.
A tweaked 64C/128T Threadripper gets you 90,000 points without even breaking 430 Watts...So basically with the power limits removed, i.e. not really "stock". I would say it's out of the box performance rather than stock.
516 watts for 70k in cb23 ? Pathetic.
It's not a good showing I'm afraid
I told you so.XEON w7-3455 with 24 all P cores gets you lower score in CNB R23 than 13900K with 24 most E cores. Hmmm...
142W idle power.... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I guess these chips make sense only to people wanting those PCIe lanes or tons on RAM, who insist on using Intel and who own their own power plants.
How can you say efficient , when comparing to Zen 4, they are horrible.I told you so.
It's not about the Core uArch. Golden Cove and Raptor Cove are very good and efficient cores... But this time Intel just choked them with small L3$, and slow Mesh Interconnect.
I know, a tuned Zen3 based 64 Core ThreadRipper can do 90,000 points and does it with 430 Watts, so 28% Higher MT for 15% less consumption.516 watts for 70k in cb23 ? Pathetic.
And a Zen 4 threadripper would really kill it.I know, a tuned Zen3 based 64 Core ThreadRipper can do 90,000 points and does it with 430 Watts, so 28% Higher MT for 15% less consumption.
Not horrible, somewhat less and in some cases they are at parity. I am talking about Raptor Lake-S, not the monstrosity that Sapphire Rapids turned out to be.How can you say efficient , when comparing to Zen 4, they are horrible.
Even Raptor lake. 350 at stock ? vs 230 ? And I would have to search for more benchmarks with wattage, as I remember its worse than that quite often.Not horrible, somewhat less and in some cases they are at parity. I am talking about Raptor Lake-S, not the monstrosity that Sapphire Rapids turned out to be.
I understand, but the 12900K and 13900K are able to match and some times even exceed their bracket competitor in MT. But these monstrosities(Xeon W9/W7) are not even competitive with Zen3, you know they will get horribly embarrassed by Zen4 based ThreadRippers.Even Raptor lake. 350 at stock ? vs 230 ? And I would have to search for more benchmarks with wattage, as I remember its worse than that quite often.
I understand, but the 12900K and 13900K are able to match and some times even exceed their bracket competitor in MT. But these monstrosities(Xeon W9/W7) are not even competitive with Zen3, you know they will get horribly embarrassed by Zen4 based ThreadRippers.
The fact that they can win SOMETIMES does not make them efficient.I understand, but the 12900K and 13900K are able to match and some times even exceed their bracket competitor in MT. But these monstrosities(Xeon W9/W7) are not even competitive with Zen3, you know they will get horribly embarrassed by Zen4 based ThreadRippers.
No Doubt about it.Yeah, i think its almost guaranteed 32core Zen4 TR will match this 56core in CB23.
So, Intel's second attempt at disaggregating their chips has again resulted in poor energy efficiency.
That seems optimistic to me, considering we aren't hearing anything about how Intel 4 yields are, or if it actually HAS any yields so far.unspecified time during H2 2023.