And were you guys saying this when Zen 3 Crypto was 2.1X Comet Lake? Nope. The crypto score for Rocket Lake vs Zen 3 is actually closer than it was for Zen 3 vs Comet Lake.
The only difference is that Intel is winning that now by a big margin, so now it must be excluded....
It should have been excluded both times, for sure, and the disparate treatment does probably reflect some AMD favouritism, but if Zen 3 is very close to Comet Lake in GB when you disregard crypto, that just means Zen 3 is relatively weak at GB compared with other workloads. Zen 1 and 2 underperformed in GB too.
This is a good point. There are almost no news about "Ice Lake-X". The Ice Lake parts are long overdue and based on an oldish version of 10nm tech. This sounds like even the top SKUs wouldn't be looking that shiny vs old Cascade Lake-X.If Alder is the hybrid there might be (Sapphire Rapids?) parts for HEDT with golden coves only?
Hybrid is fine if both the small and big cores can do the same things, just at different speed and power, but with Gracemont having less features it feels sort of a waste… also another step into messy software compatibility.
I think there is one good benefit of small cores: background tasks. My two work computers are currently at (1) 7% to 15% CPU and (2) 20% to 30% utilization just sitting idle with only one tab of Chrome open to google.com and nothing else running. My home computers are similar, but I don't have them handy to give numbers. Put Windows, Teams, anti-virus, and anti-malware on the small cores and I'd instantly see a noticable speed boost. Not only would the big cores be fully available, but they'd be cooler for longer turbo and they'd have less competition for better scheduling.Yea, I dont get the hybrid architecture for desktop. I mean AMD had 16 big core desktop chips 3 years ago, and after still another year, Intel can match that? Sad really.
, then a RKL-S that equals Zen 3 or beats it slightly is closing in on 30% ipc gain over CML-S. If that were to happen, I'll call it the chickens coming home to roost in AMDLand lol.
Looks like some folks have made a mockery of the M1 MacOS Geekbench scores. MacOS apparently has some advantages here that make Geekbench not as cross-platform as they claim :
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This is just funny to watch. I'm just being cautiously optimistic, but if RKL-S shows a higher ipc than Zen 3 then what are all the naysayers going to say? This chip has been trashed so much in this very thread. I'm going to see how all those generous ipc numbers of Zen 3 stacks up in a three-way comparison with CML-S and RKL-S. My quick math is, if Zen 2 is ~6% higher ipc than CML-S and Zen 3 is ~20% higher ipc than Zen2, then a RKL-S that equals Zen 3 or beats it slightly is closing in on 30% ipc gain over CML-S. If that were to happen, I'll call it the chickens coming home to roost in AMDLand lol.
Holy sh*t. I did not expect Komachi is on these forums. Hello !Sapphire Rapids-X does exist. It will appear on the Fishhawk Falls with Alderlake Point PCH. It was called X699, also marketing name is subject to change. However, I wouldn't expect it until around 2022Q4.
PS : I haven't heard anything about Ice lake-X yet.
Sometimes, on a good day, if I try hard, I'm not a little famous twitter user who leaked something. I'm just a Forum userHoly sh*t. I did not expect Komachi is on these forums. Hello !
高频版 Tiger Lake 来袭！Intel 11 代 ES CPU 超前评测 - 电脑硬件 - Chiphell - 分享与交流用户体验
Big thread of details about this Rocket Lake ES.
Although seems it's running at 5GHz instead of the stated 4.8GHz maximum single core?
Apparently reporting the multipliers like this can happen when overclocked?
I don't have an Intel chip I can test with - going off what a friend told me when they saw this.
5.3GHz stock boost clock scored lower in single thread than 5.2GHz all core.Intel Core i9-11900K "Rocket Lake-S" breaks CPU-Z barrier of 700 points with all cores at 5.2 GHz - VideoCardz.com
Intel Core i9-11900K overclocked to 5.2 GHz According to a new leak from Chiphell, Intel’s upcoming flagship, the Core i9-11900K was able to break the 706 points barrier in the single-thread CPU-Z benchmark when all cores were set to 5.2 GHz. This means that CPU has a slightly higher result...videocardz.com
New Rocket Lake benchmark overclocked to all core 5.2 Ghz. 706 is pretty good for single core. Don't ask about power consumption.
CPU-z is a benchmark that's held together by duck-tape.According to CPU-Z RKL (with a 64b OS) has 4.65x the IPC of a Core duo based E5500 using a 32b OS...
Dunno what is the validity of this bench, but looks like it s not even usable for a same brand comparison that overlay more than one or two gens, not talking of cross brands comparisons..
Intel Core i9-11900K "Rocket Lake-S" breaks CPU-Z barrier of 700 points with all cores at 5.2 GHz - VideoCardz.com
Intel Core i9-11900K overclocked to 5.2 GHz According to a new leak from Chiphell, Intel’s upcoming flagship, the Core i9-11900K was able to break the 706 points barrier in the single-thread CPU-Z benchmark when all cores were set to 5.2 GHz. This means that CPU has a slightly higher result...videocardz.com
New Rocket Lake benchmark overclocked to all core 5.2 Ghz. 706 is pretty good for single core. Don't ask about power consumption.
Power consumption is what ever is set in the motherboard firmware.
Efficiency is great compared to Skylake
11990K 143W for AVX2 FPU stress and 184W for AVX512 FPU stress.
9900K at 181W AVX2
Rocket Lake would have more 256-bit FPU resources so at 143W it would be beating the 181W 9900k in performance.
In AVX512 FPU stress it would be 50-100% throughput increase over the 9900K iso-power given what we've seen with Ice Lake vs Comet Lake in FP vectorized code with few memory accesses.