Intel D201GLY Board - My Experience

sprockkets

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I've been working with the new Intel mini-ITX board for a week now, and can summarize my experience with it so far.

On the Windows side, it works well. For now I have tested only Windows XP. With a Hitachi 250GB 3.5" HDD, it loads reasonably fast. Drivers loaded without any hassle, except the sound driver requires you acknowledge it being not signed.

CPU-Z reports it has as mentioned here an Intel Celeron 215 processor, Yonah based, 65nm process, 1.24 volts, Stepping 8, rev C0, with MMX, SSE 1 2 and 3 extensions. FSB is 533. L1 cache is 32kb for data and code, with 512KB L2 cache. The sensor chip is a Winbond W83627DHG.

The system keeps the processor fan at max, but will keep the system fan down to almost nothing when it starts up, keeping it quiet until temperatures build.

On the Linux side, the frame buffer mode or just vesa works ok, with a max of 1024-768 resolution. At least with SuSE 10.2 and 10.3, while it was detected ok, the video driver used caused major tearing on the screen. If you install the driver from Intel's site by using rpm -if , to force it to overwrite the current driver, it solves the issue. Sound works ok.

On Lm-Sensors, the driver for the Winbond chip is supported but only on kernel 2.6.21. The app itself does not support it yet, but when it does it can control fan speeds.

Under heavy load, the processor's heatsink gets fairly warm but never almost burning hot like my older VIA C3 systems did. The northbridge doesn't get too hot either.

I would update the BIOS upon receiving it to correct the light codes. It does not use beeping as it has no speaker or a header for a speaker to tell you what is wrong.


The good?

1. Fast and cool 1333 mhz processor.
2. Cheap for a mini ITX board at $75.
3. Good Intel support.
4. Rubycon and Sanyo caps.

Of course, the downsides of this board is:

1. One IDE channel. If it had a SATA port I would understand. Thereby, don't expect to burn DVDs over 4x, and expect overall xfers between the optical drive and the HDD to be slow.
2. No CD/AUX input on the board. While no one uses it for CD playback anymore, it can be used for audio input from Leadtek tuner cards. Want to use a tuner from them? Sorry.
3. Needs 12v input. Most cases for mini-ITX boards do not include it for obvious reasons; they have such low power consumption. This limits case selection.
4. No program for thermal monitoring. Probably due to its intended market; on Intel's marketing material, a picture of a young boy who looks like he lives in India.
5. The BIOS has no setting for suspend modes. It only does S1 suspend, which is almost usesless for saving energy.


I plan to use this board for those people who need the least amount of system they can get. With about 25-27 watts used to power this system, it is also very green.
 

jefa

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hi, I made a comp 6 months ago with this mini-itx board

It's a VIA C3 800mhz processor board by Jetway

I put 98 on it and it runs fine EXCEPT!! for Flash content (flash videos like those found on youtube) and some Video content is very choppy

I can not stand this anymore so I was interested when I saw this Intel board you have reviewed which NewEgg also carries..

So basically my question is: Does this board have any problems playing videos and/or Flash content?
 

SleepyB

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Hi,

I'm interested in this board, and have a few questions.

What case/enclosure are you running this in? Will it fit into a mini-itx case? Also how loud is the fans on it? Would it be possible to run it passively? Anyway to underclock/undervolt the CPU?

The specs looks nice on this, the price is great, and seems to be powerful enough to play some videos. The SiS chipset is a bit of a downer though. Using an SiS 761GX for a file server/HTPC right now and the video isn't too great. Has the same SiS Mirage 1 graphics engine.

jefa - if you want a mini-itx with awesome graphics performance, check out the Albatron KI690-AM2. It uses the AMD G690 chipset and regular AM2 cpus. I don't know the cost on it though. Also, I don't know if there will be a cheap/easy way to silently cool it.

I'm pretty sure this Intel board will have enough power to videos and flash content. The Via board have very weak graphics subsystems.

*ung* ... saw this at logicsupply:
This mainboard is only compatible with the Casetronic C137, Morex 5677 and Venus 668 cases due to the location of the ATX connector and the height of the heatsink.
 

Bluefront

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Thanks for the info sprockkets......I suppose you've had more experience with this board. Anything more to add?
 

n2vip

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Originally posted by: sprockkets
I've been working with the new Intel mini-ITX board for a week now, and can summarize my experience with it so far.

On the Windows side, it works well. For now I have tested only Windows XP. With a Hitachi 250GB 3.5" HDD, it loads reasonably fast. Drivers loaded without any hassle, except the sound driver requires you acknowledge it being not signed.

I don't know that I'd consider unsigned drivers a "hassle"

CPU-Z reports it has as mentioned here an Intel Celeron 215 processor, Yonah based, 65nm process, 1.24 volts, Stepping 8, rev C0, with MMX, SSE 1 2 and 3 extensions. FSB is 533. L1 cache is 32kb for data and code, with 512KB L2 cache. The sensor chip is a Winbond W83627DHG.

The system keeps the processor fan at max, but will keep the system fan down to almost nothing when it starts up, keeping it quiet until temperatures build.

The processor fan may be on max all the time, but it is extremely quiet.

On the Linux side, the frame buffer mode or just vesa works ok, with a max of 1024-768 resolution. At least with SuSE 10.2 and 10.3, while it was detected ok, the video driver used caused major tearing on the screen. If you install the driver from Intel's site by using rpm -if , to force it to overwrite the current driver, it solves the issue. Sound works ok.

Intle lists drivers for several "flavors" of linux, including "Red Flag", the Chinese distrbution, hinting at what is meant by the next billion users.

On Lm-Sensors, the driver for the Winbond chip is supported but only on kernel 2.6.21. The app itself does not support it yet, but when it does it can control fan speeds.

Under heavy load, the processor's heatsink gets fairly warm but never almost burning hot like my older VIA C3 systems did. The northbridge doesn't get too hot either.

I would update the BIOS upon receiving it to correct the light codes. It does not use beeping as it has no speaker or a header for a speaker to tell you what is wrong.


The good?

1. Fast and cool 1333 mhz processor.
2. Cheap for a mini ITX board at $75.
3. Good Intel support.
4. Rubycon and Sanyo caps.

Of course, the downsides of this board is:

1. One IDE channel. If it had a SATA port I would understand. Thereby, don't expect to burn DVDs over 4x, and expect overall xfers between the optical drive and the HDD to be slow.

There are spots on the MB for two SATA controllers, I suspect there will be later revisions that will support SATA, either instead of PATA or in addition to PATA. There also appears to be another version of the board that would include TV Out, but that is not generally available at retail (AFAIK)

2. No CD/AUX input on the board. While no one uses it for CD playback anymore, it can be used for audio input from Leadtek tuner cards. Want to use a tuner from them? Sorry.

There is a line in jack on the back panel that could be put to this use, of course you would have to fashion a suitable "jumper" cable.

3. Needs 12v input. Most cases for mini-ITX boards do not include it for obvious reasons; they have such low power consumption. This limits case selection.

Adapters are cheap to take 12 volts off a hard drive power connector and put it into a suitable 4 pin Molex connector. Also worth noting, the MB has sufficeint clear space around the 24 pin ATX power connector to allow you to plug a 24 pin ATX power cable without issue (this is not always the case when the MB only has a 20 pin socket on-board).

4. No program for thermal monitoring. Probably due to its intended market; on Intel's marketing material, a picture of a young boy who looks like he lives in India.

Sorry, little boys who look like they live in India don't care about thermal monitoring? I suspect that these MBs were really designed for purpose-built applications, and in those applications thermal monitoring is not required...

5. The BIOS has no setting for suspend modes. It only does S1 suspend, which is almost usesless for saving energy.

This board was designed to use very little power, and to power up quickly (Intel Rapid BIOS Boot) - to save power turn it off.

I plan to use this board for those people who need the least amount of system they can get. With about 25-27 watts used to power this system, it is also very green.

I got this board becuase a local retailer had them on the shelf for $70 and I was taken by the simplicity of the system. With one PCI slot you can do many interesting things - add a SATA controller for a low-cost server (MS Home Server anyone?), faster (gigabit) Ethernet controller (router), or other specialized card. Personally, I'm making a small photo archive box with a big HD (300 Gig), a DVD burner, and a card reader to occupy one the inevitable floppy opening on many mini-ITX cases. If I could find a case that could accept the 2" tall cooler on the CPU and simply provided two "stacked" internal 3 1/2" drive bays I probably would build a small server (take THAT Linksys NSLU!), but that heat sink is a bit tall for most cases I could find (esp. ones without optical/floppy bays).

As a note, I had a serious problem attempting a graphical install of Sun Solaris on this board (the video went south and the board appeared to freeze during the display test) - I haven't gone back and attempt a text install, but I would assume that would work. The Sun Solaris Install Check CD indicated the video chipset would be supported by Solaris, but there might be something flakey in the actual hardware implementation for this chip on this board.

All in all, I like the box, but I don't think I'd use this as the basis of PC for a non-technical friend: the expansion options are too few, and a 1 GHz Celeron with "only" 1 Gig of RAM won't last too long in my opinion. This machine is "Good Enough" for many applications, but the market (here in US anyways) is offering crazy machines for just a few dollars over one built off of this board.

MB: D201gly - $70
Case: Average - $50
RAM: 1 Gig DDR2 - $45
HD: 160 Gig PATA - $40
Optical: DVD Burner - $35
Keyboard/Mouse: Average - $15

Total: $255 (without an O/S)

If you want to run WinXP and need to buy a license ($90-100), you can find more capable machines in your Sunday newspaper for similar/less money. If you plan to re-purpose items in your "junk box", then of course, YMMV.

I wonder what this board was actually built for? I don't think Intel really wanted to get into the "stuff a PC into a beer six-pack/stuffed animal/desk drawer" business - I think they decided to productize a custom board and try and recoup their sunk investment...
 

hans007

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its not too bad a board, i considered getting one but the whole 1 channel IDE thing is a real deal breaker.

comparing this to a normal machine isn't really what this board is about. its about being small obviously and for $70 it is not THAT awful a value seeing as its cheaper than just about any other mini ITX board out there. it really really needs 2 sata ports though , hopefully the next version of it has an updated chipset.
 

razor2025

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I'd jump all over this if I can find a pretty good mini-ITX case that suits my taste...
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: n2vip
I got this board becuase a local retailer had them on the shelf for $70

Fry's? They actually have it on their web site with "call for availability" at $69.99.
 

calvinsy

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Those who have this board up and running. Can you confirm what kind of memory you are using?

I've tried a Kingston ValueRam 1gb ddr2 667mhz and it does not post. It powers up but won't post - the green lights don't flash.

This is the ram I have > http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KVR667D2N5_1G.pdf

I know it supports 533 but all my experiences since SD ram days - high frequencies can always be clocked down. The 667 would run at 533 speeds?

After 2 mins of leaving it on, the northbridge heatsink get's hot but the cpu heatsink stays frozen.

I'm really hoping it's the CPU that's dead. I'd hate for this Intel board to be picky with ram.

Thanks, Calvin
 

mcmahonc

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I think I tried the same memory but after the Win XP splash screen I'd get a BSOD, stating LIRQ_Less_Than_ ....something something something. I was also having trouble with a 256mb stick but that one now works after doing a bios update.
 

rubantin

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n2vip,

3. Needs 12v input. Most cases for mini-ITX boards do not include it for obvious reasons; they have such low power consumption. This limits case selection.

Adapters are cheap to take 12 volts off a hard drive power connector and put it into a suitable 4 pin Molex connector. Also worth noting, the MB has sufficeint clear space around the 24 pin ATX power connector to allow you to plug a 24 pin ATX power cable without issue (this is not always the case when the MB only has a 20 pin socket on-board).

Ok... I am a self taught network admin at a small private school... I know enough to be dangerous

I have setup a terminal server network
- 2003 server w/Damn Small linux distros on my workstations (Rdesktop remote sessions)
- I am either going to boot from network or boot from USB stick
- No local "drives"
- The setup would have VERY low power consumption.

Presently I am using old windows boxes to run the wrokstations but would like to "eliminate" them.

I am wanting to mount mini-ITX boards under the labroom tables and think this board would do everything I need.

However, when you mentioned "taking the 12v off a HD connector" My eyes lit up (Jumping for joy). Since the board consumes <30 watts and I have 350watt PSUs....Could I use one PSU to power 10 boards?
 

kalster

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what is the smallest case you can get for this board, also is it possible to get a 3.5 -> 2.5 adapter and use a laptop drive with this

also i want to use a low profile pci video card (i have pci fx5200 in mind), what kinda case/psu do i need for that
 

kalster

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just to update this thread, the next gen of this board d201GLY2 should be out towards the end of this month. the cpu, celeron 220 , will be based on conroe, have a lower tdp and will be passively cooled, it will also support x86_64
 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: kalster
just to update this thread, the next gen of this board d201GLY2 should be out towards the end of this month. the cpu, celeron 220 , will be based on conroe, have a lower tdp and will be passively cooled, it will also support x86_64

info!
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: eplebnista
Originally posted by: kalster
just to update this thread, the next gen of this board d201GLY2 should be out towards the end of this month. the cpu, celeron 220 , will be based on conroe, have a lower tdp and will be passively cooled, it will also support x86_64

info!

actually the best thing about the d201gly2 is that the chipsets 2 sata ports are actually there instead o fjust blank spots.
 

Zap

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Now if Intel will only come out with a D201GLY3 with a PCI-E slot...

*slap* Wake up Zap, wake up!
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: eplebnista
Originally posted by: kalster
just to update this thread, the next gen of this board d201GLY2 should be out towards the end of this month. the cpu, celeron 220 , will be based on conroe, have a lower tdp and will be passively cooled, it will also support x86_64

info!

actually the best thing about the d201gly2 is that the chipsets 2 sata ports are actually there instead o fjust blank spots.

yeh, that is pretty big too, it would have been also nice if they just used gma950 instead of the crappy sis
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: Zap
Now if Intel will only come out with a D201GLY3 with a PCI-E slot...

*slap* Wake up Zap, wake up!

with the cpu on it, i'd probably just be happy with one running an intel chipset like say a 965gm with a dvi or hdmi output... say for $100 ($30 more than the current one, and hell it would be worth it)
 

sprockkets

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http://www.directron.com/dvrk06.html

Good burner to use with it, a slim slot loading pioneer unit

http://www.directron.com/s3stormseries.html

It has the 12v plug too, most don't

I also did solder an audio cable to use the line in internally

Also, it was able to do real time mpeg4 xvid and mp3 avi recording from my Leadtek WinFast card. I tried also later a Via board with the C7 1.3 or 1.5ghz variant. Couldn't even record a few frames a second.
 

kalster

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I am planning to build a mini-itx system, i was interested at the new board (d201gly2) with passive cooling but i heard read some reviews about it running hot, so i might just go with the older d201gly

1) what is the cheapest and smallest case i can get, i dont want to spend 60-70 on the main board and another 60 on the case
2) i have a bunch of laptop drives that i want to use, what adapter do i need
3) is a 120w pico psu enough to drive everything
 

sprockkets

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Well, just because the heatsinks runs hot does not mean it will run like crap. I just encoded a dvd to xvid for hours on end with all the post processing involved on the D201GLY1, and it is stable. What is more, is that I have the one fan in the case set to a very minimal speed with a fan mate. Having only 1 IDE channel on the old version almost makes it useless for cd or dvd burning.

That link in my above post is the best overall case for this board, since it has the P4 connector, 80watts, so it can handle a 3.5 drive and a low end pci video card if need be. Directron sells it cheaper than newegg. It costs $86 w/o shipping, but it has all the adapters you need for the laptop cdrom drive and hdd, if it is IDE. However, to make life easy for you, use a SATA hdd.
 

kalster

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are you running the d201gly2 (passively cooled), that case looks good actually, didn't realize it came with the psu
 
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