Intel Developer Forum (IDF) 2013 on September 10-12, what can we expect?

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liahos1

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Amazon picked Snapdragon

haha i know i was joking. but getting 99 dollar android tablets without amazon/s skinned os and bloat would be great. i dont think anyone ever thought intel would would get into skus this inexpensive.
 

SiliconWars

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Seems there was a Broadwell demo and it will have 30% lower power over Haswell due to 14nm and architecture improvements.
 

Fjodor2001

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Some info from IDF:

http://www.zdnet.com/intel-shows-of...-100-tablets-and-wearables-at-idf-7000020495/

Some highlights:

* Intel CEO Brian Krzanich showed a Intel Core Haswell-Y based ultrabook that because of its low-power consumption, it has a TDP of 4.5W, can run fanlessly. Both Core i5 and i7 processors will be available in a fanless configuration.

* Broadwell shrinks the die-size of Haswell to 14nm, offering a "30 percent power improvement" and performance improvements over ultrabooks running a Haswell-class Core processor.

* More than 20 Android and Windows 8 tablets based Intel's new Bay Trail Atom SoC will be on sale by the US holiday season, with prices ranging to below $100.

* For the phone market Krzanich showed a handset based on a 22nm SoC that will provide "a 50 percent performance" gain and longer battery life over current Intel-based smartphones.

* Intel handsets with integrated support for LTE will start shipping soon, he [Krzanich] said. [...] Also coming next year will be support for LTE with carrier aggregation, which will allow data to be downloaded at a rate of more than 150Mbps by the time it ships.

* Intel president Renee James also took to the stage to talk about Intel's future chip plans, detailing its plans to move to a 10nm manufacturing process in 2015, and 7nm in 2017.
 

Blandge

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* Intel CEO Brian Krzanich showed a Intel Core Haswell-Y based ultrabook that because of its low-power consumption, it has a TDP of 4.5W, can run fanlessly. Both Core i5 and i7 processors will be available in a fanless configuration.

I'm going to assume they meant SDP.
 

blackened23

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Despite Intel only releasing Haswell-based PCs and tablets very recently this year Krzanich showed a working ultrabook based on the architecture that will succeed Haswell, Broadwell, and said the first products will be available by the end of this year. Broadwell shrinks the die-size of Haswell to 14nm, offering what Krzanich said it a "30 percent power improvement" and performance improvements over ultrabooks running a Haswell-class Core processor.

Broadwell products by the end of the year?
 

Khato

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Broadwell products by the end of the year?

The end of year was in reference to Baytrail tablets. Still it's good to see that Broadwell is on track... and another 30% improvement in battery life over Haswell would be quite impressive.

Boo for having to wait 'til tomorrow at least for Baytrail.
 

ShintaiDK

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Broadwell products by the end of the year?

The end of year was in reference to Baytrail tablets. Still it's good to see that Broadwell is on track... and another 30% improvement in battery life over Haswell would be quite impressive.

Boo for having to wait 'til tomorrow at least for Baytrail.

No, it was Broadwell. But they need to buildup inventory and so on.

Haswell for example was in production since late 2012 as well.
 
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blackened23

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The end of year was in reference to Baytrail tablets. Still it's good to see that Broadwell is on track... and another 30% improvement in battery life over Haswell would be quite impressive.

Boo for having to wait 'til tomorrow at least for Baytrail.

No, it was clearly stated that Broadwell would be out before the end of the year. He didn't mince words, specifically said Broadwell. What specifically that entails, is unknown - maybe only specific SKUs, but it definitely won't be out for LGA, that's for sure.

This is what he said, and then he held a broadwell tablet in his hand:

Krzanich showed a working ultrabook based on the architecture that will succeed Haswell, Broadwell

Very interesting. Intel is indeed hellbent on the mobile wars...
 

erunion

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broadwell available by the end of this year? Is there a quote?

The repoet I saw said production begins before end of this year.
 

Blandge

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No, it was clearly stated that Broadwell would be out before the end of the year. He didn't mince words, specifically said Broadwell. What specifically that entails, is unknown - maybe only specific SKUs, but it definitely won't be out for LGA, that's for sure.

This is what he said, and then he held a broadwell tablet in his hand:



Very interesting. Intel is indeed hellbent on the mobile wars...

He's wrong. Broadwell will not be available until next year.
 

liahos1

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when should we expect some real coverage of idf? there are a ton of of devices there and its where baytrail is making its splash and ive yet to see one impressions blog post in the blogosphere.

maybe tomorrow?
 

cbn

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The finfet PR talk was done to perform a shock-and-awe campaign on the decision makers at OEMs who were (at the time) in the stages of making decisions regarding what MPU their 2014 and 2015 products would be built around.

Intel had to convince decision makers that the risk of going x86 instead of ARM wasn't going to be assured career suicide for those folks at the customer who were tasked with making those critical decisions. So you do what is necessary to make it a justifiable decision by making sure everyone thinks "well sure its x86 with its overhead, but they'll be on those fancy power-sipping 3D xtors whereas the ARM SoCs will be on bog-standard planar HKMG".

So from that point of view, Intel is using process tech lead to sway customers back to x86.

But then the irony to me is that chip design and features is one factor that allows Intel to have that process tech lead in the first place. (ie, Intel's superior chip design/technology/features is what allows them to buy all that expensive fab equipment in the first place.)

Anyway, with that said, It will be interesting to see what other chip IP Intel has up its sleeve to help fight ARM.
 

blackened23

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Many more websites quote him stating it will ship in 2013:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/computer...ives-peek-laptop-future-broadwell-chip-226533

http://www.pcper.com/news/General-T...aswell-Y-and-14nm-Broadwell-Chips-New-Devices

Aside from your source, every website i've seen covering the event specifically states that it will ship by end of 2013. Quotes him stating exactly that with a Broadwell tablet in hand. I'd assume he knows what's going inside his corporation....Anyway, Hopefully there's a youtube of his presentation floating around...
 
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Pheesh

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I bet you he did say end of next year...likely all these 'journalists' simply reciprocated one inaccurate quote rather than verifying the information before doing so.
 

Sweepr

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There was a working Broadwell portable there and some people here actually believe 14nm starts shipping late next year. Is this serious?
 
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