Intel E8700 coming: 6MB L2 and 10.5x Multiplier

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Tempered81

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True, 11x would be a lot nicer. The real advantage is the pricing model, and the price of an E8600 at ~$175.

Just change your FSB to 440mhz (which most people have no problem with), bump up a little vcore, and you're at 4.4ghz. 4.4Ghz is pretty much the ceiling for these chips on air cooling anyway.

 

evilbix

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Intel is just making a new model to make some extra money. Think about it, they have basically perfected the C2D chips, and they'll bin the best ones and sell them as a higher model to make a few extra dollars to help keep profits up as so called older tech keeps sliding in price.

I think it's a horrible deal, but C2D won't die for a while and it'll look good on a sales floor when it's rated at a higher GHZ than any other intel offering atm.
 

Nemesis 1

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I wouldn't buy. Not with dual core 4 threaded Nehalems coming very soon . You know that 2.93 intel was showing off. and people were saying its a $400 chip . LOl. If Intel has to charge $400. for a 2.93ghz. 32nm chip . Intel should surrender right now. Because that would be a tragedy. Know I can see that Chip at $250. But no more , The 2core chips clocked at 3.2+ should sell for $200 and lower.

When AMD comes with 32nm . It won't be at #.@ghz . But 4.ghz . Just exactly what intel is forcasting for the 32nm. Nehalem . If the 4 core comes out and does 4ghz stock . Imagine the power that 2 core chip has . Intel bring 2 core first is a very telling story . AMD should be scared very scared. I would love to see intel come out with a high speed low cost 2 core 4 threaded solution that will send the EU running for cover from the unslaught of this chip . its going to be ugly. I wasn't real happy about it a weak ago . But after certain events . Let lose the dogs of hell intel . Bring these out at 4ghz. and $200 dollars without GPU installed ondie. Either way . Its your time to shine bright. Show the world the lie that is the EU. Show why AMD cann't compet. I already know what these things clock like so all I can say . Awhile back it was a little depressing . But now I changed very quickly and am all for the coming beating. If I lie may GOd strike me dead. You guys won't believe this . Lets just call it a preview of Intels 4core chip against AMDs 6&8 core chips . Its that ugly . AMD can't hope to compete.
 

lopri

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This may be a 'somber farewell' to the venerable FSB subsystem.. :moon:
 

Sylvanas

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If I had a current 775 system with a Q6600 I would not be buying this
If I had a current 775 system with a Dual core I would not be 'upgrading' to another dual core
If I wanted to build a new system low/midrange system I would not be using 775- there are P2's cheaper and better and Corei5 on the way
If I wanted to build a new high end system I would not be wanting a high speed dual-core

Not interested in this chip at all. No point.
 

fffblackmage

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especially since there'll probably be quad cores around the same price point as the e8700, i think going with a quad core makes more sense. =/
 

swanysto

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Originally posted by: Sylvanas
If I had a current 755 system with a Q6600 I would not be buying this
If I had a current 755 system with a Dual core I would not be 'upgrading' to another dual core
If I wanted to build a new system low/midrange system I would not be using 755- there are P2's cheaper and better and Corei5 on the way
If I wanted to build a new high end system I would not be wanting a high speed dual-core

Not interested in this chip at all. No point.

You would think in your attempt to make your point that you would at least know what you are putting down. Unless of course you are from another country where Intel decided to sell you guys a bootleg version of the 775 socket. If that is the case, I apologize for correcting you.
 

ShawnD1

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Originally posted by: OCguy
If you can give me a couple programs that a 3.8ghz i7 would make a difference over a 4.3+ghz wolfie [dual core], and that more than 2% of PC users use, I would start to see it this way.

According to almost every benchmark on Anandtech, a quad core will beat a dual core in almost anything you can think of. photoshop, media encoding, 3D rendering, Microsoft Excel, file compression, games.

What else do you use your computer for? Aside from games, 3D rendering, media encoding, MS Office, and general dicking around (multitasking), I'm not sure what else a computer can do. Quad core wins at every one of those tasks.
 

Sylvanas

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Originally posted by: swanysto
Originally posted by: Sylvanas
If I had a current 755 system with a Q6600 I would not be buying this
If I had a current 755 system with a Dual core I would not be 'upgrading' to another dual core
If I wanted to build a new system low/midrange system I would not be using 755- there are P2's cheaper and better and Corei5 on the way
If I wanted to build a new high end system I would not be wanting a high speed dual-core

Not interested in this chip at all. No point.

You would think in your attempt to make your point that you would at least know what you are putting down. Unless of course you are from another country where Intel decided to sell you guys a bootleg version of the 775 socket. If that is the case, I apologize for correcting you.

Yeah a typo of 755 instead of 775 is serious business. It must have been hard to determine what socket I was talking about.
 
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Originally posted by: Sylvanas
If I had a current 775 system with a Q6600 I would not be buying this
If I had a current 775 system with a Dual core I would not be 'upgrading' to another dual core
If I wanted to build a new system low/midrange system I would not be using 775- there are P2's cheaper and better and Corei5 on the way
If I wanted to build a new high end system I would not be wanting a high speed dual-core

Not interested in this chip at all. No point.

This is a very good point.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
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Holy crap, with the deal at Microcenter B&M pickup going right now (i7 920 for $199), this is starting to not make sense.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: OCguy
If you can give me a couple programs that a 3.8ghz i7 would make a difference over a 4.3+ghz wolfie [dual core], and that more than 2% of PC users use, I would start to see it this way.

According to almost every benchmark on Anandtech, a quad core will beat a dual core in almost anything you can think of. photoshop, media encoding, 3D rendering, Microsoft Excel, file compression, games.

What else do you use your computer for? Aside from games, 3D rendering, media encoding, MS Office, and general dicking around (multitasking), I'm not sure what else a computer can do. Quad core wins at every one of those tasks.


Most people use thier computers for games and surfing the internet.

From your games link:

E8200: 83.9
i7: High 87


How many people do you think could tell the different between 84 and 87 FPS?

And the i7 is clocked higher!
 

ghost recon88

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Show me a WR for SuperPi, pifast, and 3D01 with a Nehalem based CPU and then I'll say this chip is worthless
 

error8

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Originally posted by: OCguy

Most people use thier computers for games and surfing the internet.

From your games link:

E8200: 83.9
i7: High 87


How many people do you think could tell the different between 84 and 87 FPS?

And the i7 is clocked higher!

Well, I can see that GTA 4 runs perfect with a quad core, when it was choppy on my 3.9 ghz dual core and Riddick Dark Athena has seen a nice improvement going from 2 to 4 cores. So, I'd say that a quad does worth it anyday over a dual since games will just use more cores with time.

In the "games" link, you can see that the difference in Crysis between an E8200 and an i7 is of 7 fps and in FarCry 2, at specific settings is as much as 26 fps. That's nothing too shabby and these games are advertised as being more in the dual core business.
No offense, but your E8600 is becoming obsolete very fast.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: OCguy

Most people use thier computers for games and surfing the internet.

From your games link:

E8200: 83.9
i7: High 87


How many people do you think could tell the different between 84 and 87 FPS?

And the i7 is clocked higher!

Well, I can see that GTA 4 runs perfect with a quad core, when it was choppy on my 3.9 ghz dual core and Riddick Dark Athena has seen a nice improvement going from 2 to 4 cores. So, I'd say that a quad does worth it anyday over a dual since games will just use more cores with time.

In the "games" link, you can see that the difference in Crysis between an E8200 and an i7 is of 7 fps and in FarCry 2, at specific settings is as much as 26 fps. That's nothing too shabby and these games are advertised as being more in the dual core business.
No offense, but your E8600 is becoming obsolete very fast.

The scaling in games of the few games that actually use more than 2 cores is marginal at best.

GTA4 is a crappy port. Hardly enough reason to say it is "obsolete". I actually play a game that benefits from a Quad (Supreme Commander), and I can see no difference between my Q9450 and this chip.

Of course even Yorkies are "obsolete" technically, but not practically.

 

error8

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: OCguy

Most people use thier computers for games and surfing the internet.

From your games link:

E8200: 83.9
i7: High 87


How many people do you think could tell the different between 84 and 87 FPS?

And the i7 is clocked higher!

Well, I can see that GTA 4 runs perfect with a quad core, when it was choppy on my 3.9 ghz dual core and Riddick Dark Athena has seen a nice improvement going from 2 to 4 cores. So, I'd say that a quad does worth it anyday over a dual since games will just use more cores with time.

In the "games" link, you can see that the difference in Crysis between an E8200 and an i7 is of 7 fps and in FarCry 2, at specific settings is as much as 26 fps. That's nothing too shabby and these games are advertised as being more in the dual core business.
No offense, but your E8600 is becoming obsolete very fast.

The scaling in games of the few games that actually use more than 2 cores is marginal at best.

GTA4 is a crappy port. Hardly enough reason to say it is "obsolete". I actually play a game that benefits from a Quad (Supreme Commander), and I can see no difference between my Q9450 and this chip.

Of course even Yorkies are "obsolete" technically, but not practically.

So you have a Q9450 that it's not used in your main GTX280 SLI rig? That is very weird.

GTA 4 is a crappy port, can't say it isn't, but I'm having so much fun playing it now, without any stuttering. Supreme Commander is a very old game, even if it is optimized for quads, slower old dual core rigs are able to run it flawlessly. I have the impression that the next major titles that are to be released, will surely use 4 cores. And when that happens, the performance boost going from 2 cores to 4 core should be important. Fast dual cores are still hanging strong today, but their days are numbered.

And I didn't say that your E8600 is obsolete, I said that is becoming obsolete. That is a difference.
 

kpxgq

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im still quite happy with my e7200 that i got for $60 (sale at Fry's for a new retail box) almost a year ago... its doing 3.8ghz at 1.32v on an old asus g35 microATX motherboard.. 90$ of my usage is games, internet, and movies, so even the newer Q-series quadcores can't touch this.
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: OCguy

Most people use thier computers for games and surfing the internet.

From your games link:

E8200: 83.9
i7: High 87


How many people do you think could tell the different between 84 and 87 FPS?

And the i7 is clocked higher!

Well, I can see that GTA 4 runs perfect with a quad core, when it was choppy on my 3.9 ghz dual core and Riddick Dark Athena has seen a nice improvement going from 2 to 4 cores. So, I'd say that a quad does worth it anyday over a dual since games will just use more cores with time.

In the "games" link, you can see that the difference in Crysis between an E8200 and an i7 is of 7 fps and in FarCry 2, at specific settings is as much as 26 fps. That's nothing too shabby and these games are advertised as being more in the dual core business.
No offense, but your E8600 is becoming obsolete very fast.

The scaling in games of the few games that actually use more than 2 cores is marginal at best.

GTA4 is a crappy port. Hardly enough reason to say it is "obsolete". I actually play a game that benefits from a Quad (Supreme Commander), and I can see no difference between my Q9450 and this chip.

Of course even Yorkies are "obsolete" technically, but not practically.

So you have a Q9450 that it's not used in your main GTX280 SLI rig? That is very weird.

GTA 4 is a crappy port, can't say it isn't, but I'm having so much fun playing it now, without any stuttering. Supreme Commander is a very old game, even if it is optimized for quads, slower old dual core rigs are able to run it flawlessly. I have the impression that the next major titles that are to be released, will surely use 4 cores. And when that happens, the performance boost going from 2 cores to 4 core should be important. Fast dual cores are still hanging strong today, but their days are numbered.

And I didn't say that your E8600 is obsolete, I said that is becoming obsolete. That is a difference.


Well techincally i7 is becoming obsolete as well. Sandy Bridge is just around the corner.


There will not be a game in the next 2 years that a dual core cant run that a quad core can. Not only is scaling in its infancy, but a publisher would be commiting suicide by blocking out most of the market.


My E8600 @ 4.3 is faster than the Q9450 I had at 3.6ghz in 99% of the things I do, so it just made sense.

Of course the Q9450 was all I really needed, but then again 1 280 was all I really needed.

Damn the enthusiast bug.
 

nyker96

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wiki says sandy bridge (32nm) is evolutionary core revision to c2d focusing on power saving not performance. looks like Intel isn't really worried too much about amd catching up. but power saving is good especially going 8core or 16core later.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: nyker96
wiki says sandy bridge (32nm) is evolutionary core revision to c2d focusing on power saving not performance. looks like Intel isn't really worried too much about amd catching up. but power saving is good especially going 8core or 16core later.

There will still be performance increase, that is for sure.
 
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